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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: boss on July 20, 2007, 17:13:11
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Some pics of the build so far, my friend decided it needed a name and called it “juggernaut project". I have not ordered any new parts yet as I am a student and i have no money. And all the cuts are only rough so its not a case of bad saw skills. Let me know what you think.
And also take in to account its been done by an 18 year old as well
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my centre console is a bit broken. does anyone have one that i can buy?
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Pic's dont work mate
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got that sorted though :wink:
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Thats better :D
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Wow, thats a brave move to...erm.....trim??.... the rear end like that. Did you need a drink to prepare, or just pick up the grinder and say 'lets go' :D
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haha no drink involved mate. im doing ladoga in it so I need to lose all the un necessary overhangs.
Btw there are parts for sale;
2x 300 tdi front seats beige
3x 300 tdi rear seats beige
5x seatbelts
2 x side windows (3door) with fixings
2x rear roof windows
4x range rover alloys (with assorted rubber)
1x boot door (2" tear below the bottom hinge)
2x anti roll bars
1x rear bumper
1x front bumper
2x rear bumper lights
2x rear lights
And other assorted crap, let me know if anyone needs any of that. I don’t want much for any of it, just enough to fund some replacement parts and/or tools
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Hay dude post it in the for sale section.... also have look in couple of the latest topics as there are fuew ppl after seats :)
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yeah, a few people after seats. i would be one of them, but at the moment, something big came up, damn it. if they are still about when im sorted, i'll grab em off ya!
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how much do you think seats will go for?
and those 5"spoke" rangerover alloys?
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Brave indeed!
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Don't suppose the front bumper had foglights in it?
If it did, I'd be interested!
Dave
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Brave indeed!
:shock:
Don't suppose the front bumper had foglights in it?
If it did, I'd be interested!
Dave
sorry mate im not sure, i haven’t really spent a lot if time at the front to be honest, ill take a look and put some pics up.
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sorry mate im not sure, i haven’t really spent a lot if time at the front to be honest,
Aye, I see that!
ill take a look and put some pics up.[/quote]
Thanks!
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I've got a console that colour if you need it.
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I've got a console that colour if you need it.
how much my friend?
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Think I might have paid £20 from fleabay.
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Your doing great mate, just keep us updated and keep up the good work!
Oh, is it going to be a pick up or you putting the rear back on?
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it will be a pick up. i was tempted to go for a 110 crew-cab style thing but when ever its driven off road it just drags its arse on the floor so im getting rid of the overhangs, am also thinking about ladoga too :wink:
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new pics of todays work and bad cutting skills
the back of the cab will be welded right against this member ther the exess roof will be folded over and welded......dont understand? tough! youll have to see what happens tomorow :P
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dodgy "4x4 is born" template! i wouldnt do it like this normally it was the Easiest way at the time
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the back of the cab is roughly done , there is about 2squere inches in total left to cut to make it fit properley, its tac welded in place for the moment.
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i cant reley explain what happend apart from the fact i got careless and chopped to much of the back pannel off, so i had to stich it back together.
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:shock:
brave/foolish/brave/foolish?!
hope it all works out, but i get frightened if ihave to change a light bulb! :lol:
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dont understand? tough!
As long as you know what you are doing, we are just bystanders :wink:
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hahaha to true.
ran into a bit of a problem today, where the rear and middle windows mate to the car there is that curve in the body pannel, i was going to cut 2inches off of that and put in a bit of 2"x2" box to make it a wee bit stronger but my recip saw or my grinder wont fit properley because the end of the saw hits the alli pannel which is not what i need, and the grinder wont fit properley so i had to order a plasma cutter for monday. if i had just bit the bullet and got one to start with it would be all done by now!!!!!
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how it started today
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thats the way we do it! those jacks are ok but there reley unstable!i did get it higher than this but then the jack shifted sideways and so did the car!
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what im doing is cutting(the plasma cutter came btw!)the inside sills to make a ledge so i can weld some box section around the truck bed.
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looking good so far. theres alot of excess chasis to be lost though
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untill tomorow
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no comments...should i even bother anymore?????
the bar going around the truck bed
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chopped the chassis
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puncture faries visited lastnight!
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Don't be put off, i think everyones watchin open mouthed :o .
You certainly got some balls for someone of you age :)
Keep it up its lookin good.
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defo- keep it up- to say im intrigued is an understatement......... :)
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Tyre going flat slowley through out the pics...
Good work so far tho :)
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Keep up the good work.
This is just as exciting as Big Brother (did I just say that outloud...??? Maybe nobody noticed)
Mark.
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Nice one, its looking good! Another one watching with interest here! I would love to bobtail something but just dont have the balls or more importantly the skills :D
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Looking good, can't wait to see how you finish the top edge of the rear wings, thats the bit I'm struggeling with on mine.
Keep up the work it will pay off, check my gallery for my tuck os far.
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Keep up the good work.
This is just as exciting as Big Brother (did I just say that outloud...??? Maybe nobody noticed)
Mark.
Sanding walls is more exciting than Big brother.
I have an idea what this is gonna look like when you are done and if i'm right should be pretty cool. Hope I'm right :)
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Keep up the good work.
This is just as exciting as Big Brother (did I just say that outloud...??? Maybe nobody noticed)
Mark.
Sanding walls is more exciting than Big brother.
I have an idea what this is gonna look like when you are done and if i'm right should be pretty cool. Hope I'm right :)
Sanding with charlie and Chanelle together, in the same room, would make it exciting :lol:
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Good on ya Boss. Looks like you're doing a cracking job.
The truck back is the chop I'll go for one day in the future when I can afford another car/the rot gets so bad it doesn't matter!
Watching avidly and cant w8 to see the final result.
I have had some thughts about re using the 2nd sunroof in mine as a rear cab window and a few other little quirks.
Pie in the sky at the moment TBH, mines parked out front, gleaming and looking good. No way its gettin chopped just yet :)
Stu.
PS. From the look of the spatter around your welds and the glimpse of the welder I'm betting its the Clarke 150 EN Gas/Gasless mig or somthing really similar? I have one too 8)
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YOUR DOING REALLY WELL BRAVE AS A BUTCHERS DOG KEEP IT UP
GRIFF
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PS. From the look of the spatter around your welds and the glimpse of the welder I'm betting its the Clarke 150 EN Gas/Gasless mig or somthing really similar? I have one too 8)[/quote]
it is.....i borrowed it off of a friend, i hate it, the wire feed isnt smooth i cant figure out the ampage from the switches(i just memorise patterns) im used to working with big 500amp migsets with dials. the welds would be alot better if i had a tig set as thats what i mainly do.
does anyone know if gasless welds are ok in an mot?? i was told aslong as its mig/tig/oxcet its ok, but a gasless mig is just like an ark welder with a reley long electrode so i dont know. or is it going to be a case of "they cant fail what they cant see!"
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Looking good, can't wait to see how you finish the top edge of the rear wings, thats the bit I'm struggeling with on mine.
Keep up the work it will pay off, check my gallery for my tuck os far.
i have a plan for the edges.......not telling yet bit it will look good if it goes wright.
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If you are welding new metal, a well setup arc welder works wonders
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i know i drive a jap so dont throw me out just yet pleasssssse :D
ive been waching what your doing and all i can say is good on ya,keep up the good work matey :D
im going back into the wood work now :)
mark
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You can get the bits needed to use the welder as a standard gas mig from machine mart for 25 quid. Just need a friendly landlord for a bottle of pub gas then :)
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2/8/07 (late update)
got the back on,and the bottom half of the cab is all marked out.
my trusty work bench!
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got the edges cut
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started to hammer the back over but i ran out of gas for the blow torch, i carried on for a little while but the corners wernt forming wright(i did put slits in) and its bloody hard work working cold steel when you havnt got something solid for it to lean on!!
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this got my welding fabricating juices flowing...........say for instance if you could buy off the shelf tray back with full dvd type instructions on body cut ect would there be a market for such a thing??
i have a really good plan for just such a thing something easy for some one who could use a grinder and drill could mod their own truck and attach a pre fabbed tray back to their disco . any in put and i may get this ball rolling cheers glyn :(bigwicked):
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looking good mate, well done.
how many hours do you reckon its taken you to get this far
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Looks like its coming on a treat!
Keep the pictures coming 8)
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its taken bloody ages, ive been working by myself and playing it by ear. And things keep hindering the build like cutting disks wearing out or some more problems appearing. to be honest all ive got to do to get it going is put the other half of the back on, the rear lights and the fuel tank and its drivable but I wont be happy with it so im taking it slow. I was on holiday for the past few weeks so you guys should have more pics next week. Keep watching out.
In the meantime I leave you with my old chap’s disco2
allisport intercooler/remap
Silicone hoses
Hi-clones
Td5 alive performance exhaust
arb winch bumper
Disco parts rock slider/ tree guards
Disco parts +2" air spacer
Scorpion racing +2" front springs
Old man emu shocks
QT front and rear diff guards
QT heavy duty track rod
Southdown tank guard
LANDROVER CENTRE DIFF LOCK
bfg 265/75/16
safari snorkel
k&n air filter
Soon to go on:
D44 rear bumper
The last ever D44 light bar
D44 side exit exhaust and finisher
Custom Southdown steering guard
4 PIAA spotlights
Anyone that wants 5 18" land rover mondial wheels let me know. They got 4 255/55/18 general at2 and one Pirelli scorpion on. The at2 ate truly awesome tyres, they got a speed rating of 130 mph (which we’ve hit in the disco because he’s running about 210hp) and there really grippy off the road! I don’t think he wants much for them so give me a shout if you’re interested.
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well done to you!!! wish i had time and money to get myself a motor and have a play with it just like you are :)
good luck would love to see the finished project!
dan
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its taken bloody ages, ive been working by myself and playing it by ear. And things keep hindering the build like cutting disks wearing out or some more problems appearing. to be honest all ive got to do to get it going is put the other half of the back on, the rear lights and the fuel tank and its drivable but I wont be happy with it so im taking it slow. I was on holiday for the past few weeks so you guys should have more pics next week. Keep watching out.
In the meantime I leave you with my old chap’s disco2
allisport intercooler/remap
Silicone hoses
Hi-clones
Td5 alive performance exhaust
arb winch bumper
Disco parts rock slider/ tree guards
Disco parts +2" air spacer
Scorpion racing +2" front springs
Old man emu shocks
QT front and rear diff guards
QT heavy duty track rod
Southdown tank guard
LANDROVER CENTRE DIFF LOCK
bfg 265/75/16
safari snorkel
k&n air filter
Soon to go on:
D44 rear bumper
The last ever D44 light bar
D44 side exit exhaust and finisher
Custom Southdown steering guard
4 PIAA spotlights
Anyone that wants 5 18" land rover mondial wheels let me know. They got 4 255/55/18 general at2 and one Pirelli scorpion on. The at2 ate truly awesome tyres, they got a speed rating of 130 mph (which we’ve hit in the disco because he’s running about 210hp) and there really grippy off the road! I don’t think he wants much for them so give me a shout if you’re interested.
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ill tell you now he aint running 210 hp :lol: at most 190 & thats stretching it slightly
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He missed a few mods off. 210bhp is conservative!!!
Hybrid turbo, currently 22psi boost but up to 30psi. Egr valve has gone.
Lag is now a huge problem so I’m going to try a dump valve. I’ll let you know if it does any good or is just a waste of time and money.
Other stuff includes:-
Bi xenon headlight conversion and xenon spots, and lots of stickers!
There is more but who really wants to know?
:)
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He missed a few mods off. 210bhp is conservative!!!
Hybrid turbo, currently 22psi boost but up to 30psi. Egr valve has gone.
Lag is now a huge problem so I’m going to try a dump valve. I’ll let you know if it does any good or is just a waste of time and money.
Other stuff includes:-
Bi xenon headlight conversion and xenon spots, and lots of stickers!
There is more but who really wants to know?
:)
no hi-jacking old man! start your own post!!!
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backs on now just needs a little more work to make it look pretty.
clarke welders are crap!
still to do; rear wings and bumper
landrovers are not squere so when i mesured it up and marked out...it wouldnt fit! [!Expletive Deleted!]!
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minor trimming and its done(sorry no pics of how much trimming)
not fully welded as of yet, just put a few runs in to set up the welder and to hold it all together
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nearley there :D
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if anyones wondering im not using the original disco lights im getting a set of defender lights and making up a rear pannel for that. should look good.
anyone going to landrover fest???
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been welding today.....
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also cut the roof liner a little. im reley not bothered about the asthetics of the interior. its going to get mucked up anyways!
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some people may have guessed that it will warp....and they were right! it occoured to me just as i stopped welding! [!Expletive Deleted!]! so i put this bar(should have done it before welding) in an attempt to straighten it out and it worked a little untill.....
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[!Expletive Deleted!]!
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been busy, went to landrover fest and bought plenty of goodies. put in an order to devon 4x4 today. all coming together niceley.
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shame about the tee from SCRAPion racing!
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put in an order to devon 4x4 today.
What have you ordered?
Whats you name, i'll make sure you get some stickers :wink:
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put in an order to devon 4x4 today.
What have you ordered?
Whats you name, i'll make sure you get some stickers :wink:
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got coming;
4 255/85/16 bfg MT on black mods
rock sliders w/tree guards(coming un finished apparentley)
d44 front bumper
polybush kit
4 30mm wheel spacers
d44 steering guard
arches
my names doug but the order is probibly under barry, hes had alot of stuff from devon just put a side exit exhaust on and its the bolloks! tempted with one myself!
you work there then???
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put in an order to devon 4x4 today.
Whats you name, i'll make sure you get some stickers :wink:
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are they going to be any bigger than the ones you sent my dad! :lol: :lol: :lol: i joke. you going on the london to brighton run???
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I do work there
I'm not going on the run but we will be in Brighton, on Madera drive :wink:
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may see ya there then?
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255/85/16 (33.8inch) anyone know if ill have to go to uprated halfshafts with these?
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Good choice or wheels and tyres.....
http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/auf_wiedersehen_pet/gallery/BFG/0/7ece3fda51313f2a5e8942e568a26fd9.jpg/
Mine are silver too - they just look white!
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Good choice or wheels and tyres.....
http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/auf_wiedersehen_pet/gallery/BFG/0/7ece3fda51313f2a5e8942e568a26fd9.jpg/
Mine are silver too - they just look white!
what size tyres are you running at the mo then as they look a little bigger that 235's :lol:
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thumbs up to u doug!
this is looking awesome :D
keep us updated
Dan
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In theory, you shouldn't need uprated shafts with them tyres for general driving and playing. Thousands of Defenders, long and short, run 'em (Andy Sargent now recommends them over 235x85 - which is cool unless you've a really short girlfriend!). The reason why you don't generally see them on Disco's is the amount of bodywork they'll remove!
What will zonk the shafts is spinning a wheel up whilst it's in the air then dropping onto a traction surface - the reverse torque reaction will snap one shaft or t'other.
That aside - really good build, dude. Really good. 8)
Cheers
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Eeyore
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love it dude 8)
quick question: how old are you?
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love it dude 8)
quick question: how old are you?
grab your coat, you've pulled captain Darling :lol:
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im 18 my friend.
thanks for the props on the tyre choice. my first choice was some 32" simex extreme trekkers but then i would have to go to uprated diffs/halfshafts/cvs i really dont have the money for that there also not cheap! i got my pacage for £625 and i think i got a better deal :lol:
unfortuanteley i dont have asmuch time to spend on the disco as i did now im back at college, but ive orderd evereything i need for now(and still under budget! YES! :D ) just waiting on x-eng for there balljointed trailing arms and allisport to build my fuel tank. but hopefully it will be done soon.
i look forward to seeing you guys in the mud soon :wink:
spare wheel came today, just a demonstration of how long those shocks i have actually are!
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i got my dads old td5 alive ss exhaust(he got a devon side exit one now) are the exhaust fitments on the front pipe the same for the td5 and tdi?
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started a little body work...then i ran out of washing up liquid....sounds random but i know what im on about. order from devon should be here by the end of the week. x-eng arnt going to have any of there arms any time soon so im going to put in an order for some rosejointed arms. i have a cat....first ive known about it! and i have found a mysterey wire hanning from my transfer box/transferbox area its white and really skinny, would it be for the sensor for the diff lock dash light? also the transfer box is leaking out oil can anyone tell me why? or does it normally do that?
bad photo but you sort of get the idea
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order came from devon 4x4
30mm wheel spacers
4 extended arches
pollybush kit
d44 rock sliders with tree guards
d44 steering guard
still waiting on the bumper.
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Looking good you brave man 8) 8)
can't wait to see the finished article :wink:
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:lol: Washing up liquid .....annealing Aluminium when its black its hot enough
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Was that enough stickers i put with your order?
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Was that enough stickers i put with your order?
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Send me some too :)
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Was that enough stickers i put with your order?
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yeah thanks! there were like 14!
do you think youll be able to throw aload of bidder ones in for my truck when you send my bumper or dads light bar off????? :D :D :D
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Seems a while since I last looked at this thread, looks to be coming allong nicely.
One query I have is on the polybushs your getting, most are relativerly stiff and reduce your suspension articulation (on the front mainly) which considering the Rough Country dampers and X-springs this is not what your trying to achive. I ended up going back to rubber bushes on the front after fitting 11" Rough Country dampers.
The second query is the front damper turret mounts. They look like standard height units when typically rough country dampers are used with 2" raised mounts.
In the short term you can always just stick with standard trailing arms arms and change them at a later date when X-joint ones are avalible, I find that with dislocating springs I still get all but an inch of travel on standard arms and bushes with the same damper setup as you've got.
Keep up the good work.
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Yes, i was wondering about the bushes....there red, what ones do i need?
And the twin shock turrets are -1!!!! lrs sold me them at lr fest assuring me that itll be fine but David at llama4x4 had different ideas.... im going to mount the outer shock only because if i were to mount them through the spring they would fowl on the x spring top hat :? im going to be machining up some spacers for them unless anyone wants to buy/trade them for some +2.
i am no longer fitting the cranked arms, i was told by an engineer at Devon that that will cause worse problems with my castor angle so i haven’t bothered, yet. May fir some qt rose jointed arms if the x-eng ones don’t come through!
devon bumper came too(no photo)
Got the rear springs/tyres/spacers on yesterday. Made a bit of an error on judgement as I don’t think itll fit out the garage now! And getting all that stuff on was a pain in the arse as im only by myself and didn’t have all the tools I needed so more effort was required and the pics are a little blurry because I was shaking so much.
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if you havnt noticed this by now the disco has moved over to the left alot.....to put it in short i had a mishap with a hi lift.
rough country shocks to go on tuesday.
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If they are genuine polybush then the red onesa are the stiffer ones, genuine blue polybushes are the only soft (relativerly speaking) polyuerathen bushes I'm aware of, though I'm not sure about the Super Pro bushes as they use different compound bushes for each part of the vehicle.
Thats a good idea just using the outer mount on a twin mount damper turret, though unless you plan on running bumpstops extended by 3" over stock (and seriously limiting upward suspension movement) then you will need to do something about the length.
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ok, i may look into that then, i dont think i can be botherd to send them back so ill just give these a try(i was told they dont last to long if your off roading alot anyway!) i dont really know much about bushes. im going to try the shock mounts....im not sure how the bottom plate thing for the second shock mounts, but if it mounts the way i think it does then the shock is mounted a little lower anyway, but im unsure. anyone have any pointers on fitting them? if i were to put the extended stops on would it be a but of a shi**y ride on the road and limit my articulation?
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bumpers on.
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/P1010028.jpg)
back ends too light for the x-spring at the moment.
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turrets are on
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its looking good
havnt managed to get the x-springs on the front, i was pushing the little bottle jack to the limit and diddnt want to risk damage. i also had a problem getting the second shock mounts on as they connect on to the panard rod and radius arm and i diddnt have a big enough spanner. got one today so should be on soon aswell as the damper.
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Looking good dude :wink:
Just need to see the wheel arches on now
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wow very nice mate cumin on a treat now!! cant wait to see it all muddy :D
good work fella
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You're a braver and much more highly skilled man than me!
That's really starting to look good now, with those wheels on the proportions look really good. Keep going, in fairness you seem to be over the worst of it now!
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fantastic work.................
mike
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ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!
ive not been working on it much, havnt been riding lately and i was getting fat......took a week to sort that out!
today, got the front dampers on.
plummed in the old tank and started it up......it sounds hidious.
got a cat replacement pipe from D44 and modified it slightley to mate it up with the TD5 alive exhaust but i couldnt get the old pipe off :?(very frustrating!)
not really any visible changes. just pulled it out the garage just to take some photos. looks good
still no word from allisport about my fuel tank!
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/good7.jpg)
only just fits
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chopped hoses down slightley so it would fit a little better.
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that looks so kool :D
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Its looking great and quite big :shock:
Keep up the good work
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out into sunlight! at last! MUHAHAHAHA! cant wait to see more pics! 8) nice work!
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Where did you get the front damper kit from? I want a set of those bottom brackets.
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Where did you get the front damper kit from? I want a set of those bottom brackets.
the dampers are rough country (+6 i belive) and they are -1" twin shock turrets from LRS i have only mounted the outside shock to allow more articulation. if you want those ones they are up for grabs, i have about 2.5" of travel on my damper so i think the -1" idea was a bad one!
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Well I need the axle brackets to convert the TDi to air suspension sometime next year, so if it's those brackets you don't want PM me a price.
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Well I need the axle brackets to convert the TDi to air suspension sometime next year, so if it's those brackets you don't want PM me a price.
just the brackets? there just 2 pieces of folded steel welded together. to be honist you would be better off just making them to fit the vehicle
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fuel tank finally came!!!! it is a real work of art, ive done alli welding before but could never get it as neat and uniformed as this! props to allisport! thanks guys.
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Lets have a look then
Sounds ace :wink:
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After note
When i posted this originally i couldn't see the pictures
I can now :roll:
Thats a lovely bit of kit there
Alisport do weld ally very well :wink:
(well, they should being as the business they are in :lol: )
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Blimey!!!!!! That is damned fine!!!
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[not a lot] done today.....it was cold and i was tired. got most of the exhaust on though. tried to start it up again....the battereys had it!
this annoyed me!
should be headding on down there tomorow where ill get the longer breaklines on and try to get the front x-springs on. it all that goes to plan and i get it started ill try and get it flexing......
secret weapon employed!
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got bored so....
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might i suggest finding an alternative location for the fuel tank.... pretty as it is, its much better to look at the road in front rather than a fuel tank! :lol:
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Very impressive! Just a quick question, did you have to cut the inner wing/wheelarch at all to get the dual front shock mounts in? I ask as I've been thinking about buying a pair for mine (removing the anti-roll bar and adding a couple of extra shocks). I did consider doing it when I had the new shocks fitted earlier this year but wasn't sure how easy they are to fit.
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yes the inner arch was cut away, there is a seam which is spott welded anong the side of the inner arch, i split this which worked. it still hasnt been cut away properley, i diddnt perticullaly want to get an angle grinder in the engine bay. if you are going to do it i would secure a recip saw with a short blade or preferabley a plasmacutter. im not sure what it is but on the left side above the turret there is a "thing you put coolant in"(i think) that has to be moved but it is pretty straight forward.
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Thanks mate - the thing is the header tank for the coolant system (I think!). I'll have to think about this - might start gathering the parts. Apparently I need to get shot of the anti-roll bars so I was thinking dual shocks might be a good way to stop it handling like a boat when I do!
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that, i am not sure about. i think you would do better maby just having stiff shocks(koni heavytrac maby?) if your taking the arb off i asume your after articulation? in which case its probibly better to do what ive done ie. mounting dampers on the outside, but with a different damper. let me know what you think.
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may i ask how much the fuel tank was?
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Looking better all the time! Keep going!!
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im not saying how much it was, lets just say it was north of £250 :shock:
got the [so and so] started today!!!! there was one wire not connected to the fuel pump. took me all day to realise so there are no twisty photos like i promiced. the collage im going to are talking about using it for a show piece for there prospectus and for open day so it could be going there soon where there are fully equiped workshops at my disposal! huzar!!! might actually get around to taking out!
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that, i am not sure about. i think you would do better maby just having stiff shocks(koni heavytrac maby?) if your taking the arb off i asume your after articulation? in which case its probibly better to do what ive done ie. mounting dampers on the outside, but with a different damper. let me know what you think.
I'm really after better articulation but don't want to lose the stability - I tend to push mine pretty hard on road so if adding a couple of extra shocks would keep it handling as it does but with more articulation then I'll go for that. I'll have a think about it. Do you have to run four matched shocks or would it be ok if I had the de Carbons (that it has at the moment) in the normal locations and something else on the extra mounts? I don't really want to take £70 worth of six month old shock absorbers off!
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you would have to get the same dampers, if one is set harder than the other the softer one would be doing nothing. i have heard of a kit that allows you to unhook your anti roll bars when your going off road and then re hook em' up when you need to. i dont know where i saw that but if you couldnt find it, it wouldnt be hard to machine up. if you dont have the facilities, i do :wink:. also, my dad has a set of shocks called "ranchos"(un used!) there fully ajustable from within the cab, from what i gather you can set them pretty hard, would you like me to have a word with him and see how much he wants for them?.....but you would haveto get a new set of mounts for them as thet fit disco2/defender and use the pin mounts
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keep going mate nearly there!
looking ace.
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you would have to get the same dampers, if one is set harder than the other the softer one would be doing nothing. i have heard of a kit that allows you to unhook your anti roll bars when your going off road and then re hook em' up when you need to. i dont know where i saw that but if you couldnt find it, it wouldnt be hard to machine up. if you dont have the facilities, i do :wink:. also, my dad has a set of shocks called "ranchos"(un used!) there fully ajustable from within the cab, from what i gather you can set them pretty hard, would you like me to have a word with him and see how much he wants for them?.....but you would haveto get a new set of mounts for them as thet fit disco2/defender and use the pin mounts
It's ok, thanks for the offer though! I've heard about the ARB disconnects, the only snag I can see is that you have to grovel around in the mud underneath to connect/disconnect them. I'll just put another set of de Carbons on if I do fit dual shocks.
I tend to throw mine about a bit so if it'll handle like a boat after removing the ARBs then I'm not so keen. I've heard that it makes little difference but I'm not sure either way really.
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ok then.
quick question all,
what is that big hidous round thing on my front axle near my diff???
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A wheel? :D
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ok then.
quick question all,
what is that big hidous round thing on my front axle near my diff???
its a counter weight.....
its just there to soak up the resinants/vibrations caused by the wheels/diff/prop etc
not realy needed on yours as its more of an offroader now..... not realy needed on a road disco but just helps to get rid of those little vibrations at certain speeds..... makes it a smoother ride for the driver
you most probely need to get ride of it, will just get in the way when offroading
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i'll wheel you!!!!! :x *shakes fist*
:lol: :lol:
thanks for that, ill just leave it for now. should be more pics tomorow.
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Ok as promised i have taken some twisty pics, remember its not finished and i haven’t got dislocation on the front, also......thats sh*ts scary! i let off the clutch and went up forwards too quickley, thought it was gonna roll!!!!
it was a little higher on the front wheel too but i heard scraping and snapping from the bodywork (chop chop next week) so i let it off a little. it is on a big pile of stones! so dont think its only 2 wheels in reality its 3 1/2ish.
there are wheels in the back because i thought the back end was a little too light and my +twos where fully extended and the x-springs were carring most of the weight
anyway enjoy :D
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One of the guys in our club has the X springs on his 90, whenever we go anywhere, his main springs don't seem to move, much like yours, it seems to me that the x springs seem to push the axle down too much, ie, they don't allow the compressed wheel to compress somehow...
Not worded that very well, but i know what i mean.....
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And thats why you've brought a flared arch kit :wink:
Looks alright though.
Nice to see it outside
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looking really good there
do you have plans for rock sliders and any other forms of body side protection?
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jake, i know you want me to put the arch kit on but i cant figure out how to do it! they claim they match the contours of the disco(which is a stinking lie :shock: !!!) which is all well and good but im moving it up because im losing most of my wheel arch there are no contours to match......im stumped. been looking for a step by step on them but no luck :( could you ask one of the engineers at devon (tim maby, i dont know) about that raised air intake on the challange 90. are there any problems air flow or induction raw
david, i do have some rocksliders with a tree guard (bought from devon but have bearmach logos evereywhere, hmmmmmmm :? :lol: ) i am not using them, i am not happy with them securing to the outriggers with that little plate and i dont like the fact that they hang so bloody low! im flogging them (£100 if anyones intrested) and getting some disco parts sliders instead. the disco parts ones bolt around the chassis and are made from 2"box. very strong. my dad has some and they seem to do more damage to rocks!
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diddnt really do much today, cant figure out how to take my break hoses off with out causing any damage. chopped my rear arches out earler and removed what was left of the mud flaps. appart from that i just dicked about, cant really do anything untill i get hold of another welder or some more cutting discs
QUESTION:
does front dislocation make that much difference, i have parked on 2 tyres and the rear is pretty much maxxed out and i have no dislocation on the front. is it just a bad combo of suspention parts i have chosen or does it really make that much difference?
any ideas?
was this
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now this
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was this
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now this
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/me4.jpg)
me thinking its crap
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me just before i decided to drive over it all! because im rubbish!
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im re doing the back of the cab. diddnt get much done because i am still with out a welder and i ran out of cutting disks. i took a few photos but before i could take any of the parts i chopped up my camera packed in :(
but you should het the idea from these pics
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/P1010004-1.jpg)
yes i have to put the little wheels on the back to get it out the garrage!
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/P1010003-4.jpg)
the sort of look im going for
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/camel_cut_022_121.jpg)
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from them pictures, the rear end isnt flexing ( altho you might think it is )
the front end is going up the obstical, and the rear springs rather than compressing and twisting as it should
its just leaning over and compressing
just had major issues with my friends challenge disco
pickup/bobtail
it went from getting around 33 inches under the front wheel before the rear lifted to around 16 inches after :shock:
after alot of faffing, ringing, changing, swapping springs and head scratching
we finaly got it right 8) 8)
its running + 3 inch defender rear PICK UP springs which are a completely different rate to other springs
IIRC there 205LBft
then we ditched the shocks and got some +5's
she now flex's like she used to 8) 8)
will find a picture and post it up bud
dan
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amazing mate looks gr8
keep up good work :)
dan
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its gone to the garage today:( got the x-springs fitted and the break lines. first thing they said was new pads and discs though:(
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bad photos from a bad camera
arches on and so is the front x-springs and steering guard
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/guard.jpg)
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Nice one
It looks really good now :wink:
I cant wait to see the finished motor
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everytime i look at the thread i alway go on ebay after to see if i can do a gr8 of job as u have lol!!
welld one to you mate looks the tits!! :)
Dan
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looking uber cool boss, starting to give me ideas about bobing my commercial 8) 8) keep up the fantatastic work :D :D
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it got stuck here yesterday! i think the thrust bearing has gone :cry: looks pretty cool with the arches on now though! steering guard is on too and that looks good.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/good.jpg)
before it broke, josh wanted a go
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took the bolt off of the radius arms and the bushes are rock hard! this is why my articulation is crap at the moment!
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looks good but whats it cost u time wise :-k
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clutch fork might of give way :( not good as you have put all that hard work in to it
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clutch fork might of give way :( not good as you have put all that hard work in to it
You make it sound like he rolled it or something :-.
Clutches go, it's a fact of life. Fit a new one, H/D if you can then you'll know it's good for a couple of years.
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apparently it just had a new clutch when i bought it. but the guy i bought it from looked abit shady so i wouldn't be surprised if it hadn't!
its no big problem, i was expecting these sorts of problems, still doesn't annoy me as much as half the bolts not undoing/coming off! :lol:
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whats up with the clutch ?
is the pedal locked solid ?
and your suspention trouble isnt cos of bush's....my comp truck is on std lr bushes as they last longer and it still flex's like mad
like i said before, the spring rates are all wrong
what ratings are your springs ?
you need some springs on the rear that are 220lb ft or less !!
this cures the problem
dan
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yes, i know i made the wrong choice when it came to springs, they are discoHD ones bought them with out thinking...as for the clutch, i dont really know its either the bearing or a "selector fork" maby? i dont really know. probibly a good thing, now ill stopp dicking about with it and actually do some work :lol: :lol: :lol:
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sorry to hear your problems hope its an easy fix :? i cant wait to see this disco when its finished, keep up the good work dude :D :D
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yes, i know i made the wrong choice when it came to springs, they are discoHD ones bought them with out thinking...as for the clutch, i dont really know its either the bearing or a "selector fork" maby? i dont really know. probibly a good thing, now ill stopp dicking about with it and actually do some work :lol: :lol: :lol:
change the rear springs for some defender pick up rears ( make sure they are for pick up 90's ) and that will solve your problem mate, we got the springs from scorpion, 100 quid inc posting IIRC they cost
is the clutch pedal solid ?
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just read through this you are doing a great job cant wait to see it finished :) dont be disheartend by setbacks will just make the end product better
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change the rear springs for some defender pick up rears ( make sure they are for pick up 90's ) and that will solve your problem mate, we got the springs from scorpion, 100 quid inc posting IIRC they cost
no i hate them! rather go to devon 4x4.
it makes the sound when ever my foot is off the clutch! and it wont move when iits in gear....
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dan, im suprised you shopped at scor... oh i cant even say it :evil:
R
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dan, im suprised you shopped at scor... oh i cant even say it :evil:
R
PMSL :lol: ...he even has stickers on his windscreen :scold: :joker:
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dan, im suprised you shopped at scor... oh i cant even say it :evil:
R
PMSL :lol: ...he even has stickers on his windscreen :scold: :joker:
correction.....i accidently missplaced a hammer through the windscreen so i had a excuse to get rid of it :lol:
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dan, im suprised you shopped at scor... oh i cant even say it :evil:
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PMSL :lol: ...he even has stickers on his windscreen :scold: :joker:
correction.....i accidently missplaced a hammer through the windscreen so i had a excuse to get rid of it :lol:
Good effort :clap: :clap: :dance: :dance: :afro:
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scrapiron racing :lol: :lol:
i started nocking up the mounting points for my roll cage today.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/good2-1.jpg)
still not done but it looks ok.
this is the WORST drawing ever but it was done on MSpaint as i dont have autocad on my home pc :'(
this is baisically what my cage will look like........except it will be real and not this badly put together :roll:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/cage3rdangle.jpg)
even though its badley drawn you have to see the funny side of it :lol:
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this is the WORST drawing ever but it was done on MSpaint as i dont have autocad on my home pc :'(
I think your views are all jumbled - the plan should be above in 3rd Angle BUT your truck build is absolutely fantastic. I've watched it with my mouth wide open from the start.
Keep up the super work!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthographic_projection
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just a question
what are the braces in the corners of the bends for ?
its abit overkill :-.
cross brace the rear hoop but braces for the front hoop and rear stays you dont need
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just a question
what are the braces in the corners of the bends for ?
its abit overkill :-.
cross brace the rear hoop but braces for the front hoop and rear stays you dont need
yeah i know, i just thought it looked cool :lol: first saw the brace type things on ed cobleys ibex the rear ones are again there because i thought it would make it a little better looking.
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just a question
what are the braces in the corners of the bends for ?
its abit overkill :-.
cross brace the rear hoop but braces for the front hoop and rear stays you dont need
yeah i know, i just thought it looked cool :lol: first saw the brace type things on ed cobleys ibex the rear ones are again there because i thought it would make it a little better looking.
puff :lol: :lol: :lol:
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the exhaust cannot finish under the body like i wanted it to(so I'm told) as it will fail the mot. so my plan is to rout it up the side like on a tractor :shocked:! unfortunately if i did this it would interfear with my plan for the raised air intake so it has to be moved to the other side. and to make things worse, the TD5 alive exhaust muffler finishes just in front of the rear wheel so i have to again modify that front pipe(shorten it) so the muffler sits futher down and i can get a bend in under there. does anyone know where i can get hold of a tractor type exhaust heat shield from and does anyone know how much a vertical exhaust will effect air flow??? or is this just not a good idea all together?
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I'm not completely up to speed on this post, but who told you the exhaust can't finish underneath the truck? there's a lot of vehicles break that rule.
What I would expect is that the exhaust terminates behind the last opening into the cab, be it vent or window, so that no exhaust gas can be sucked inside.
Heat sheild need be nothing more than a larger tube secured round the outside of your exhaust or silencer with an air gap inbetween. If you saw the price of the heat sheild that Westfield sell, you'd be making your own :-o
I think having an exhaust that terminates pointing upwards is aa bad idea, the smog will be llifted up into people's faces and any water trapped in there will stay in there. If you're building a smoke stack it has to be right up to the top of the truck, even then I don't know if there is a minimum height regulation on them.
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ah, thanks alot buddy you have just saved me loads of work :D ill just be making a finisher for it then ;)
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looks good but whats it cost u time wise :-k
Time costs nothing and is willingly spent when doing somthing you enjoy.
Looking good boss, keep it up we're all rooting for ya :)
Stu.
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well its<edit> (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,42831.0.html)! went to the garage today and discovered that i have been screwed over! the clutch didn't go it was the gear box.....which was from a v8.....main shaft has been stripped the clutch was in pieces and a propshaft had to be removed "forcivley" this is not good! i can not express how [!Expletive Deleted!] off i am right now. i tell you its a bloody good thing that the little sh*t i bought it from lives in portsmouth because if he were any closer i would visit with a chock and sledge hammer! its going to cost me over 1500 to get it all sorted! now in all honesty my first thought was to strip it all down and sell it! but no, i admit its a rat wagon but Ive grown attached to it over the past few months and i dont think i could buy a 90 or something and not still wish i had the disco after doing that! it was getting so close to being on the mud too! bloody ;kgnbqepiojbgpieqrhvgbpiasehfbvoaiufvbpoihefvbsidhfbvgljusefbv;piaefbvljsdf bvpuiash!Q
ANGER!
ARSE!
ARGHHHHHHHHH!
RANT IS NOWHERE NEAR OVER!
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Mate, i seriously admire your skills, especially at your age. no doubt there is some serious experience in your family. this has been one of the longest threads i have read and i am absolutely amazed by how much you have done to it. i am a senior warrant officer in the army and you could seriously put some of my mechanics to shame. Remember: the army needs you :army:
In all seriousness, you would do very well, providing of course you can carry out your skills whilst taking out the taliban at the same time. Sounds exciting, PM me and i'll get you signed up LOL. Nice hot climates, foreign women, shrapnel........hmmmmmmmm i think i'll leave this one
Cant wait to see it completely finished
Mick
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LOL boss, chill mate... i know a copper who works in portsmouth hes a hard man and likes LEFFE
he goes by the name LORD.... Shagg.... PYLE...
seriously, im near portsmouth, maybe we could organise a gang har harrrrrrr :cool: :grin:
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maby we could....organise something lol.......as for the recruitment thing, I'm going to have to pass on that.... i wouldn't like being shouted at for a living lol
i have cooled down since lastnight, called in alot of favors and written alot of iou's but got the price down quite alot.
what had happend was because the gearbox mainshaft(not sure if its called that) was shorter than the tdi the clutch plate wasn't sitting securely and about 9/16Th's of the splines on the clutch plate were unused so all the splines were stripped. what also makes matters worse is that that white wire i pointed out earlier on in the build was the light for the difflock.....which has been permanently on! luckily the backend of the truck is so light and Skipp's around alot it may not have damaged it at all(fingers crossed). the rear propshaft had seazed may be responsible for the emence vibration that was coming through the drivetrain, and a fair few bolts were missing from the top of the gearbox.....one remains in the back of the engine, retaining a bit of bellhousing. oh good! someone needs a punch!
done my best to capture everything relevent but the camera i had to hand was rubbish!
bell housing
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clutch plate
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no time for captions. will add later
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nice seats so r u not putting the rear light corners on or not.
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like the way you useing a Spring compressor for the waffle board holders
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landymadjay - the original lights are not going in no. unfortunately i thought of putting them back in after welding in those frames and now they wont fit.i have defender lights floating about somewhere, although the garage gremlins may have borrowed them!
ben_haynes - yes i thought that wasn't a bad idea and they dont flap about like i first thought they would. i saw how much cheviot wanted for there holders and thought....no! so started looking at alternatives
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ok
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stick some lights up high were the roof is, try coloured LED's.... saves some one driving into you off road!
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stick some lights up high were the roof is, try coloured LED's.... saves some one driving into you off road!
that is not a bad idea, im picking up a rear hoop for the cage next week so i may weld some bosses on to it to mount lights too.
is that a common occourance then?
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well lets put it this way, he stopped and i didnt......until i used his bumper as a brake lol!!!!!!!! :dance:
you coud try here http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/home/homepage.php
also, fit a 3rd LED style rear brake light below the waffle boards then people will know were the end of the truck is, more importantly, if i follow you it will show me!
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ah <edit> (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,42831.0.html) i cant be botherd to wire that up, you are goung to be worse off anyway if you rear end me!
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easy as this then....http://www.autow.co.uk/trailer_parts/light_boards_prices_51.html
they even do a grille for the lights :lol:
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you taking the <edit> (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,42831.0.html) hahaha no, i think ill steer clear of all that may get someone else to put some work lights at the rear and maby extra brake lights but i cant get my head around the wiring.
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what made you say that? lol :lol: :lol:
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what made you say that? lol :lol: :lol:
said i couldnt handel the leds the you direct me to trailer boards lol. it was quite funny, even if you diddnt mean that.
no i cant get my head around electrics!
when you starting your bobtail.......is it a bob or truck??
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I will give you a hand wiring up if you give me a hand choppin mine up.....
i want a bob tail so i dont loose the rear seats, i saw one at our local pay and break site it looked very simply done no dog windows or alpines very short indeed!
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I will give you a hand wiring up if you give me a hand choppin mine up.....
i want a bob tail so i dont loose the rear seats, i saw one at our local pay and break site it looked very simply done no dog windows or alpines very short indeed!
i got to see this one at landrover fest....its for sale for something like £17,900 a bit too much but that was a damn good example. i dont really need any help wiering up...im just avoiding that untill needs must but i will happeley come down and help you with yours one day. provided you dont live at lands end or something
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good one there mate bit steep on price i found this for 8grand-ish, i emailed the guy for info but no response :x
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i prefer that one :lol: even so, 8grand....make your own the way you want for free! :dance:
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I will have to pop up for an off road voyage in your local lanes some time soon, see what happens to my disco!
are you goin to look at making your road legal at all or just trailer it every were?
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got a roll hoop off a mate, doesn't quite fit, needs some choppin and changing but all together doesn't look too bad!
also managed to get some argoshield for the welder, and i "came across" some scaffold tube to make a bumper huzzah!
progress!
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so what r u doing to the roof now coz u sed u was changing it.
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yah, i am sorting the roof out, the hoop isnt secured in if thats what you thought...its jsut up there so i can get an idea.
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i`m on with making a ground anchor out of something the "scaffolding fairy" left for me (http://www.cartorque.co.uk/chat/images/smiles/051.gif) :twisted:
only thing to remember is to clean off as much of the galvanising as possible prior to welding.... it does burn remarkably well..... and if your an idiot like me and weld inside.. stinks the house out!
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:lol: :lol: :lol: welding in the house on galv :lol: :lol: :lol: trying to do yourself in, welding fumes are bad enough but galv is toxic / lethal.
get a grip man
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:lol: :lol:what the hell! the argon will do you in by its self! an alternative to welding inside is to sit in your garage with the engine running that will gas you out quicker! lol i joke mate, but yes i am aware of the galv finish.....i would like to keep as much on as possible but ill give it a going over with a flap disc before welding i think.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: welding in the house on galv :lol: :lol: :lol: trying to do yourself in, welding fumes are bad enough but galv is toxic / lethal.
get a grip man
must admit the evening was rather "interesting!"
did have the little window open, as all the flammable stuff was blocking the door.......... :shock:
DONT try this at home kids..... ;)
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you are mad! :lol:
bit of a productive day today, started to re shape the roof...but sad to take it all off really because it feels like I'm back at square1 again.
got the second cobra seat in too.
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squint at this pic and you can sort of get what i mean...
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it will be a nice truck when it finished.
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got some stuff welded on Wednesday..... then went back today and finished it off....all sanded down ready for filler. my computer died in a very bad way on Wednesday and my dad has only just got it back up so didn't see the point in taking photos at the moment.
here are some from Wednesday...
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more to come soon :D
just a note:
i have never done body work of this degree before, just so you know...
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taking shape again mate! :P
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ahhhh yeahhh.... :afro:
when do we see pics of yours???
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lots done today, taking shape again its all good :afro:
cab almost done, looking alot better. started to extend the rollcage legs and ran out of wire in the welder....probably the worst timing ever!
have put filler on the top but it looks [!Expletive Deleted!] so i haven't put pics up......I'm rubbish at it :lol: :oops: not quite done but getting there really quickly
its been a good day :D
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Looking good there boss :) i am also rubbish with the filler takes a patient man which i am not. just slap it on thick and get an electric sander on it :lol:
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cripes
ive just realised
thats blinning short !
the one me and jim did, that ends at the tyres, and there 35 inch
what are yours 31's ?
or 33's ?
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cripes
ive just realised
thats blinning short !
the one me and jim did, that ends at the tyres, and there 35 inch
what are yours 31's ?
or 33's ?
:shock:
255/85/16 (33.8inch) anyone know if ill have to go to uprated halfshafts with these?
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thats wat he runnin mate ;)
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its looking good boss
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nar
you wont need uprated shafts with them matey
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havnt been on here in a while(computer problems)
yes dan it is short, it is the shortest one ive seen.....but maby a bit too short! :-k
i need to track down some welding wire to continue progress
what thickness of steel should i use for the rear bumper???
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went to boc today, got some welding wire and cracked on.
the hoop has been extended, took some time but its done.
made a start on the rear bumper, its only 2mm plate i wanted 3 or 4 but couldn't get hold of any so this will have to do for the moment
while cutting the scaffolding tube i noticed it had stamped along it tube stolen from blah blah blah call blah blah blah so ran that over with the flapdisk
just want to point out it isn't stolen.....i acquired it legitimately from the scaffold fairy who probably acquired it from a skip......where it comes from is none of my business but i think its rude that these people stamp there companies names on the tubing and spoil the look of our trucks! how dare they! [-X
1 more thing isn't it bloody annoying when you put all that hard work into something and some one puts a damper on it all scroll down to see what i mean.
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my dad came along earler to see how things are going. had the car up the mound of stones and he promptley said he wants a go.....[person of questionable parentage] got as high as me with his disco2 with just a 2"lift fitted! this did not make me a happy chappy! shows how much front flex has to pay! stones arnt that high but thats not the bloody point!
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Threaten to do the same to his mate!! :twisted:
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What bushes and springs are you running at the moment?
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ahh well here in lies the problem they are the origional landrover bushes(i think) its mainley that, they are rock hard! but i cant get the arms off at the moment because its lifted and the springs are being pulled back as i havnt got the cranked arms on there(you auto cad drawing will explain that better). also pushing those old bushes out of there will be a nightmare, anyone got any advice in how to get them out? looking at pollybush voids but i can only find them on scrap iron racings site and im not giving them any of my money!
the springs are OME HD....definatley the wrong rates, especially on the rear. should do something about that but monies needs to be diverted to more important things like rocksliders, snorkel and some hoses(found a big split in one the other day!)
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bumpers done....ish i dont really like it and if it were my chouce i wouldnt have one but apparentley i need one to pass mot
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y u got to have one for the mot.
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bumpers done....ish i dont really like it
Personal prefereance, but a single scaffold pipe just looks to skinny for my liking, maby if you used a larger diameter tube and rather than have it horivinatal, have the ends raised up. Kind of like the rear of Dans (aka extreme90) bobtail 90.
For removing old metalastic bushes, if there old enough the central tube(s) with most of the rubber should fall/push out without too much trouble. If the bushes are in too good a condition for the middles to just push out the other methods like chain drilling, drill then jig saw or just burning the rubber out should all work, leaving just the outer shell. Carefully cut through the outer shell in one place with a hacksaw as far as you can (without cutting the radius arm) to weaken it and then set to with a good hammer and a selection of punches to drive it out.
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for getting the old bushes out i have a dirt cheep hole saw with the drill cut off, run it through each side on the pillar drill and the rubber is gone. then cut through the outer metal with a hack saw and job done. i do tend to make a mess of hot rubber going every were mine!
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i see.....theres me thinking i have to dick about with presses!
yes the bumper will have more "glued" to it....just couldnt be botherd to cut the tube and fishmouth the ends...
i should have made it like dans yes, if i ever get my arse in gear and get some propper springs for the rear the wheel WILL hit it!
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u should put the rear corner light bit on it would make it look so much better.
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i know mate... i think it will happen too....i haveto cut around those frames to make room butyou are right. just a shame that i waisted monies on the nas lights.
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easy as this then....http://www.autow.co.uk/trailer_parts/light_boards_prices_51.html
they even do a grille for the lights :lol:
Hate to say i told you so lol :P ;) :doh:
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...shut up! :lol:
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i threatend to do it so i did! took that huge muffler off and replaced it with the little stinger and made a side exit! looks good apart from the welding.
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its loooooooooooooud! a coke can will have to be inserted to pass an mot i think :-k
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long overdue update for you guys.
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tend to agree with you on the rear bumper... my choice would have been a large box sec, with a few holes for lights, thus protecting, and housing them.. aswell as something solid to fix recovery points/hi-lift jack holes etc..
cant wait for the next update!
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Definetly
Keep them pictures coming Doug
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Oh the issue of the rear bumper had you considered a rear cross member off a defender?
Only you can buy the cross member repair kits that weld onto the chassis. You get the whole rear cross member and a section of chassis legs. You can bolt a tow bar on one of those and I believe it must negate the need for a rear bumper as a Defender does not have a rear bumper and they go through an MOT!
Don't know if its possible or not but might be a solution?
Depends if one would be the right width I guess?
Just a suggestion
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out of curiosity, any plans on mass production of the exhaust.... i`ve erm, "modified" mine using scaffold/resonator box as a tailpipe... it looks tres chav, but sounds awsome! (extra boost helps!)
would be interested in something a bit more "propper"
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if you supply the parts and throw a drink my way i will make one for you.
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Does you dad's DII have ACE though? if so it will be more flexible at low speed as the ARBs do nothing to stop it.
plus, are you paying retial prices for all those Silicone hoses you've used :shock: ther's about £200 worth there if flea-bay is owt to go by.
Truck looking great though, I like the cab roof particulalry, it's the one bit that either makes or brakes a good looking bobtail, I think you've cracked it :D
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its gone off to overland today to get the rear window put in, they do an ok job so i should look good.
and no, i diddnt pay £200 for them! with next day delivery and some alli tube i think i just topped 100 quid(cheaper than a safari anyways!) also got the green air filter to go on top of it.
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Where did the silicone tube come from then?
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sillicone hoses.co.uk.....or .com i forget. there advert was in lrm
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http://www.siliconhoses.com/ (http://www.siliconhoses.com/)
here you go
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that would be them, they were very helpfull and understanding of what i was doing with them
it had a MOT pre check on Saturday........failed in a big way! half of it was me being lazy IE. i didn't put the bump stops on or the anti roll bar mounts were still there so there had to be an anti roll bar but the biggest problem for me is the PAS box! that is leaking and needs replacing as does a track rod endand it needs new breaks and pads and the front prop is "wrong" i dint know why its "wrong" but apparently it is. i am also taking the advice given and putting a rear cross member from a 90 on there
its alot of silly little bitch jobs and I'm not paying a garage over a grand to do them! i figured if i bought all the stuff i would be spending closer to £500 if i did it all my self!
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haved you replaced the front prop? ie with a double carden one or is it that when you lifted it the splines have pulled out a bit and needs a cover puting on
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WOW!!!
looking really good mate!! keep going :)
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coming along a treat boss :D
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where did you get that back window? and how much 8-[
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that back window looks a bit like a glass sunroof... :-k
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looks like a boat window to me
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it was off of a 90 £92+vat i belive
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looks well, just need to get the arse of it done now and get the thing used. whats happening with the rear?
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hmmm im a bit lost with the back, im going to cap the rear off like a series/defender (but leave the frame visuble) and at the moment it looks like im going to haveto wrap a sheet of alli over the top of th etub......not the desired method/effect ik was going for but im finding it difficult finding a tig set with an ac output.
i sopose i could just wrap them for now and then weld it all properley but then theres the problem im having finding virginal alluminium sheet!
as for the chassis im not sure weather to plate over the rails and make a winch tray for the future OR buy a defender rear cross member and weld that on.....i really dont wnt to do tat because i like having a 90degree deperture angle and if i put a 90 cross member on i would lose that.....
sorry if my spelling/grammer is bad today, im half asleep. :undecided:
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hi boss. just spent the last hour looking at all the hard work you've put in and i'm well impressed. i'm toying with the idea of doing this to mine and what you've done really looks the DB's. don't suppose you've copyrighted any of it cause i'm mightly tempted to copy it. where abouts in norfolk do you live and would you mind a couple of visitors to come down and see it in the flesh.
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i do not mind visitors, if you want it can be arranged that i come up for the day and give you a hand, im helping about3 other people with there discos so whats 1 more to the list! hahaha
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thanks for the offer boss. its going to be a fair few months yet before we start as my mate is redoing the front inner wings first and getting it through the mot. but we would like to come down and have a butchers at yours first. is your rear hoop from a 90. i'll sort out when we're both off at a weekend and see if your available. would you say its been hard or just time consuming
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the rear hoop was from another disco truck, not built to fia standards but should hold on a minor tumble. a 90 hoop will fit as well;)
well...its been frustrating you CAN do it in 2 days with 2 people who know what there doing in a workshop but you will end up with less than what i had before i re grafted the roof, IE just a sheet.
as you have access to build pics on how to do stuff you could probably get to the same stage I'm at with in a week. unfortunately i had next to nothing when it came to pics, i had a few from cheviot Dave which were not really that helpfull as i wasn't aiming my truck to be as good as that one, and i had some more which i took as a guide on how not to do it! so it was played by ear.
there is already talk of plans to rebuild it in the winter! i would make a list of absolutely everything you need to do to it and prioritise it. get tit through an mot first then do all your offroad mods so you can use it at least then make the chop
as for coming over, we are planning a trip to wildtracs soon to christen it its probably best that you comedown then
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i was planning on taking a week off work to do it. what spec box section did you use for making the the side and rear frame thingies. when and where is wildtracs mate
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the rear of the tub is made with 2"x2"x2mm box section and the frames are made of same but 1"x1"
i would not do it that way i would re attach the wings/lights the way they were
like this one
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or this is an alternative
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wild tracks it up red lodge way
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intake pipe fully welded up today! not 1 hole was blown through and it dont look half bad.....i hate welding alli!
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(C&P from LR4X4 SO SORRY IF YOU HAVE ALREDY READ)
Hmmmm the spaghetti monster attacked the disco earlier... an absolute mess! It doesn’t help that I have no clue of how to beat him off! Ahhh the filler monster will no doubt be joining him soon too! I need reinforcements! wiring the disco loom into the NAS lights has proven harder than I first thought, also the HID monster came, that annoyed me alot because there is no reason why the person I'm not that keen on should be there(it doesn’t work and I don’t know why!) any pointers will be greatly appreciated!
Also some very shiny (and soon to be anodized) brackets for the lights....a pig to work with as 6mm checker plate is tough stuff. it was a pig to weld too as I was sitting in a store room at college for god knows how long and its picked up all sorts of contaminants......I really don’t want to show you the welds as there very ugly......it just wouldn’t take!
well thats very shiney!
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/shiny2.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/shiny.jpg)
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also, not sure if ive put this up but i got the air intake welded up thats very nice now
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/P1010005-5.jpg)
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(C&P from LR4X4 SO SORRY IF YOU HAVE ALREDY READ)
Hmmmm the spaghetti monster attacked the disco earlier... an absolute mess! It doesn’t help that I have no clue of how to beat him off! Ahhh the filler monster will no doubt be joining him soon too! I need reinforcements! wiring the disco loom into the NAS lights has proven harder than I first thought, also the HID monster came, that annoyed me alot because there is no reason why the person I'm not that keen on should be there(it doesn’t work and I don’t know why!) any pointers will be greatly appreciated!
Also some very shiny (and soon to be anodized) brackets for the lights....a pig to work with as 6mm checker plate is tough stuff. it was a pig to weld too as I was sitting in a store room at college for god knows how long and its picked up all sorts of contaminants......I really don’t want to show you the welds as there very ugly......it just wouldn’t take!
well thats very shiney!
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/shiny2.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/shiny.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/spagbog2.jpg)
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/spagbog1.jpg)
also, not sure if ive put this up but i got the air intake welded up thats very nice now
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/P1010005-5.jpg)
Please tell us that you are planning on doing something neat with the rear of your truck? cos at the moment it looks a tad rough :lol:
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boss whens it got to be done by
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i am aware that it is ugly im after a defender rear x-member which i hope will finish it of a little better, and im still in need of some doors(door skins) to sort it out anyone know of any of the above for sale let me know
jay....there is no such thing as a finished landrover, it is done to the standards of some people i know but not to mine....if i had a full workshop it would be "done" and look much nicer...and i would have a hell of alot moe money in my pocket. but thats life.
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so why cnt u put the rear corner on and your prop guna av to buy doors and cut the skins off and when has it gota be finished.
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Just a mad idea I've had, but could you use the waffle boards as a tailgate? You'd just need to fabricate a couple of end caps that they'd slide into from above.
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Just a mad idea I've had, but could you use the waffle boards as a tailgate? You'd just need to fabricate a couple of end caps that they'd slide into from above.
hahahaha
do you mean like this?
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jay, it has to be "done" for the 10 of June....then it will receive a damn good thrashing around the farm to test the limits and maby a painting session with all the people that have helped then I'm of to the B.L.R.C event on the 13Th
forgot to mention this but i need a winch
there is a dick in the B.L.R.C (who will remain nameless) who thinks i cant make it around the course because "Ive lifted it and it ll fall over" well i hate being told what i cant do and want to show him up! he is entering the winch challenge there in his stock ish 90....i want to [throw it] him off! i am pretty confident that i can beat him (points wise) just need a winch and still allot of work to do. :roll:
and yes jay, i am thinking of putting the clusters back in....bit of a step back but it does look allot better. unfortunately i have given one of the clusters away so Will have to go to a breakers and get one, maby some door skins at the same time! :lol: :lol: :lol:
anyone want to be generous and donate some parts??? :lol:
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boss where u thinking of having a rear winch that bumper looks ideal for one :-k
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Get yourself on Ebay Boss
I found a Warn 9.5 Ti for £200
All it needed was a solinoid and remote and it was working again
Failing that there's plenty of cheap new winches out there
:D
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that "bumper" was only an experiment, it was only made from 2mm steel and tacked on.....notice i sad WAS Matt at overland took it appon himself to test it out by jumping on it and the tacks broke and he hit the floor like a sack of spuds!bit bent now as the only reinforcements i put in where in the square bit... the tubes were just welded on. i am not looking into rear winches at the moment i would like to start competing soonish but i was told that you re entered in different classes depending on traction aids IE someone with a single winch wont be competing with someone with 2 winches and difflocks. don't want to go to the first challenge and be up against stuff like the mitsimog! hahahaa
jake, i will have a look at that i was told to avoid 2nd hand winches like the plague but that is tempting. i have another plan in the works but it may not work out
thank you for that.
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boss i was a little concerned about the height of ur air filter it looks a little to keen to take a drowning from slashing in bomb holes and cross axle wadeing
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i am constantly receiving grief from my old chap about this, i maintain it will be finedue to displacement of air from the cab while the truck is moving forward.......but then again it doesn't take much to move it around as its only Alli tubing and hoses. i think its a much better attempt than some of the other home made snorkels i have seen. it will be thoroughly tested in 14 days! counting it down and going a bit nuts! sooo much work to do! and STILL need a trailer!
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As long as all the hose clamps are done up nice and tight, there's no reason why they'd be a problem with it :D
Behind the cab is a proven design
They are just a bit noisy in the cab :twisted:
:D
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Just a mad idea I've had, but could you use the waffle boards as a tailgate? You'd just need to fabricate a couple of end caps that they'd slide into from above.
hahahaha
do you mean like this?
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/this.jpg)
jay, it has to be "done" for the 10 of June....then it will receive a damn good thrashing around the farm to test the limits and maby a painting session with all the people that have helped then I'm of to the B.L.R.C event on the 13Th
forgot to mention this but i need a winch
there is a dick in the B.L.R.C (who will remain nameless) who thinks i cant make it around the course because "Ive lifted it and it ll fall over" well i hate being told what i cant do and want to show him up! he is entering the winch challenge there in his stock ish 90....i want to [throw it] him off! i am pretty confident that i can beat him (points wise) just need a winch and still allot of work to do. :roll:
and yes jay, i am thinking of putting the clusters back in....bit of a step back but it does look allot better. unfortunately i have given one of the clusters away so Will have to go to a breakers and get one, maby some door skins at the same time! :lol: :lol: :lol:
anyone want to be generous and donate some parts??? :lol:
Yup, that's the way - I remember you did that earlier on but wasn't sure if you were planning to stick with it. They're a lot easier to deal with there than in the boot of a normal Disco!
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noise doesn't bother me! you haven't heard my exhaust :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: also got my eye on a dump valve :drool:.
Jake, how long until this hybrid turbo for the d2 comes out from D44??? my dad is itching for one and i may "acquire" the monster Garrett from his disco when hes done! :twisted:
i think the point made about the filter is if it gets covered in mud, i am still running the air filter in the air bin so i can just take it off and use a mushroom top if there are any problems i want to remove the big cleaner but i have no hose clips to insure the tubing is all air tight and there is a drainage thing on the air bin that must go....or at least be sealed up. only time will tell.
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don't know if people are still interested but i finished making sliders....bit brutish but will hold :D not on yes as i have to drill some metal at college to attach to the sill. i have done a step by step guide but i cant be botherd to put it up yet. found the real lights and have cut up the panels to fit. and have been making rain shelters that would make ray mears himself prowed! :lol:
fingers crossed i will have drilled the holes and picked up a can of paint and a flap disk by Friday so sliders will be on then :dance:
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still undersided if the rear lights look OK like that....looks better then the chequer plate ones i guess.
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Jake, how long until this hybrid turbo for the d2 comes out from D44??? my dad is itching for one and i may "acquire" the monster Garrett from his disco when hes done! :twisted:
I dont know tbh
I'll look into it for you
The back end looks much better using the origianl lights :D
Your rock sliders look nice and strong too ;)
Good work, keep it up
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boss that look so much better with them corners on thats i different truck now nd them rockslider lookin gd wish i was closer,cheers
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Lookin good Boss, Id appreciate the step by step for the sills to be posted up............
Cheers
Paul
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Hiya matey, when and were will be its maiden voyage?
its really starting to look good now mate!!
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stuvy are you still doing your bobtail?
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I will when I start renting my unit, until then im cursed with a boot lol :?
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im in the prosess of writing up the step by step guied. not short im afrade, but im trying to do it so its all there for you, ie so you dont have to work too much out yourself. not going to be put up untill friday though i need to drill some holes at college. i dont have a drill at them moment.
there is no point in me putting up half a giude at the moment when its incompleet.
stuvvy, its maiden voyage is on the 13,14,15(yes next week!) at bircham newton. its a club event going on all weekend i think a few of them are on here and are itching to see it in action.....so am i, i am scepticle as to weather it will out perform a disco with simmilar mods there are so many things i wish i had done differentley. but we shal see. if it does i will break out the video camera so you guys can see. :afro:
stuvvy, you also need to get intouch with your inner ray mears, buy/aquire a tarp and do some chopping in your driveway! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I dont have a drive way!! we do have a arage but notonly is the disco too high, she is too wide to fit in there!!!!!!
Im looking at a unit to rent so i may cut here to pieces in there, I will also be able to hide any other random stuff i buy in there from my partner! ha ha :P ;)
on another note, can you send me some info on next weekends off roading jaunt id love to bring my camera up and have a walk around, im not sure the disco will be ready by then :huh:
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stuvvy, it is at bircham newton construction college. next weekend starting Friday. I'm sure you would be welcome to take some photos and go around the course but as i am not an organiser i am only making assumptions.
I'm off to finish the sliders now, couldn't get the holes drilled but did get some 6mm plate to spread loads so welding it is! cant be all bad. also hopefully the rivet gun should be here today so i might (fingers crossed) get the tub done!!!!!!!!!!!!!(at last i hear you all say) may be another surprise on to nights update too ;)
until then good bye :cool:
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looking awesome ;) wish i had the patience and skills to do the same :drool:
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right, yesterday started out good but then disaster struck in the form of my welder packing up! this is not good as i still need to weld stuff (duh!) it was almost like it was mocking me because i just finished the 2ND slider, sprayed it, went to weld the other on and nothing happend.
i think the gear that turns the little wheels pulling all the wire through has had its teeth stripped! again not good! unless someone around me is going to feel very charitable and let me use there welders i don't think next week is going to happen! bit of a [!Expletive Deleted!] i know but I'm not going to stop working! "it ain't over until the fat lady sings" (don't really know what that means, but looks like its in the right place).....piscs are posted from the camera phone because i left the camera there.
both sprayed in an anthracite grey hammed finish paint and look pretty damn cool if i say so my self.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/Image035.jpg)
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nice fat thumb there he he^^ :roll:
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urghhhhh a long day.
got the panels on, no many rivvets on the left side but its only temporary.....and i don't care! fueltank is also in place, should be picking up some hose for it tomorrow also found out the gearbox was the problem with the welder......off tomorrow to get one.....£32.50+vat i believe. not bad seeing you get the motor and all the gubbins with it.
also getting annoyed with people taking bad photos of me! only putting these ones up to show how hot it was......if I'm wearing shorts its hot!
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slider guide may be up later but if its not can people please stop asking about it, i have more important things to do at the moment
if your Lucky it will be up in 10 in the discovery forum and i will try to make it a sticky so it cant be lost among the other crap on here.
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getting there. got the welder fixed, 1 slider is welded on, took a trip to halfords..... didn't hold out much hope on finding anthing usefull but i was wrong! nearly everything i need! painted the rollbar black, looks much better now you cant see the rust! the tank is all plumbed in too. there are 4 wires on the plug to the tank yet my Alli one has only 3 pickups on it...i assume one is for the fuelpump on the V8 does anyone know which one???? got a trailer sorted too:dance:
just waiting for the latest slice of nice to arrive from Devon4x4 and the combat will begin! :twisted:
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Ahh, good old twinaxle, we get everywhere. :lol:
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Ahh, good old twinaxle, we get everywhere. :lol:
recognise the hoop then??
i will be mailing stodd about it soon;)
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got it all "done" for the BLRC weekend, bit of a rush but it was deemed acceptable. got up at 6:45 to collect the trailer at 7:30 then rolled it on down to the disco and back to my house by 9:30.......dicked about with crap until 12 and got to bircham at one :?
wasn't there for too long and people started giving it the once over, no negative comments(which made me happy).
truck worked brilliantly :dance:, few times it didn't make it up hills but that was my fault, the difflock cam out and i didn't realise.......nearly rolled it a few times too :doh: i will be welding in that rollbar properly (its only tacked in to protect the fueltank)
now i am full of ideas on what to do next.....been looking into shunt nosing(bob nose) it for a while but now i think i just may because it looks a little odd with the bonnet longer than the bed! extra inch on the springs, defender truck springs are a must now! i thought i could make do but it rattles allot and the ride is hideous!
possibly bigger tyres as well. just to let you all know......the air intake in the truck bed does work! the sound is not that annoying(the exhaust annoyed me more!)! and mud didn't touch it!
Devon winch tray should be here tomorrow :drool: i will have a nice rear end now :azn:
there are loads of photos but you all know what im like and i cant be botherd to put them all up so heres a few, enjoy
let me know what you think :afro:
1:15 Friday
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1:16 Friday
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2:30 Friday
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only just fit
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explaining where the back end had got to(for the 5Th time!)
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build didn't stop on Friday
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the girlfriend had a go
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when we were done
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all a good laugh :D
this build i no where near over! :twisted:
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looks good mate but 1 little tip get rid of the that rear prop dougnut put a normal uj set up on it
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right, i will keep that in mind. i didn't put it on there the garage where i get it serviced did it.....they are very much a " land rover spent millions developing products so nothing needs to be changed" type place.
anyway. came home from college today and had a goodie waiting for me!
the winch tray!
its a bit nice and a bit well built....i am very tempted to put one in the front! if your into making your own stuff i would seriously recomend these as a base for your bumper!
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/2-6.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/1-5.jpg)
will be cracking out the metal mastic tomorrow :thumbup:
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looking good in action im liking that rear bumper all ready
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Hooray :dance: :dance: :clap: :dance: :dance:
Nice seeing your car being used at last, Boss :D
Did it handle as you hoped?
Any disapointments or anything better than you expected?
Nice winch tray btw ;)
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errrm if I'm honest it worked better than i thought it would, its not that bad under speed either 8-[( [-X)!
the overall performance of it was very very good engine ran well, didn't get cross axled and i drove up a near 90degree slope backwards(swish swish)
like i say it will be fully usable when the rear springs are sorted, that is my main issue with it. i think i will get it through the mot and then do things like shunt nose and winches then we will really go to town! would also like to add that all this Ive been hearing about the x-spring pushing the back end up when going down steep slopes is a load of [!Expletive Deleted!]! i think the people that have this problem are going a wee bit too fast and/or coasting down hills!
Jake, can you thank Liz for me please,i am really happy with the tray :D might be ordering another soon ;)
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wher did you get winch tray from
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tray is from devon 4x4 i do all my shopping there ;)
jake, i should be getting payed for this!
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Are you coming to Billing, Boss?
:D
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might be yes, why you ask bud??
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might be yes, why you ask bud??
Make sure you pop over and say hi to us all, maybe have a little of West Country's finest apple juice ;)
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if we are there(which is almost agiven since i showed my dad mouse) then we will defiantly come by, but I'm going to have to pass on the "apple juice", we shall go to the scorpion racing tent and laugh! :lol: will there be free stickers????
also wernt you at the London to Brighton run???
in case your wondering, this is mouse 4Th(i think) in Ladoga 08
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today was mostley spent on damage evaluation....i think i got away pretty lightley with only a broken headlight clip and instroments not working(anyone know whats up with that???)
took the front end appart to see what i could do about shunt nosing it(i have plans)
cleaned all the crap off of it
the winch tray i have "obtained" it about 3/4" - 1" too narrow for the disco, i was under the impression that the defender chassis was the same with as the disco,
which it must be because i wouldnt have thought it would be faulty goods. so now i have a problem.....i need to mount it somehow but the question is how.
the way i see it i have 3 options
1. cut the chassis rails(whats left of them) and re weld some old ones on further in
2. put some packers in between the gap(not sure weather that would cause stress problems or not)
3. cut the rails off and mount the tray ontop of the bed(again i dont know about stress)
pics to follow(my comp is spazzing out)
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also wernt you at the London to Brighton run???
Tim and I was there, working
The last 5 years we've done the run, it was a shame to work it but it was nice seeing all of the cars coming in :D
I see you got the stickers btw ;)
:D
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yes we came and said hi.
my dad was a bit jelous of the stickers so ce called tim up to get him to send some! :lol: :lol: :lol: and by the sounds of it there is going to be a bit of a [throw it] up!
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its looking the part now should look sweet when its finished
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Scott it was nice to see you at the BLRC weekend, your disco is a bit nice :D
not much done just disassembling.... want to get rid of the rot in the wings so I'm doing some tube work and losing the front overhang....not yet though as i don't have a job and the budget is spent! anyone want to give me a job or lend me a pipe bender :P.....or better still i can sell my self! hahahaha nono
if anyone has some suggestions....or a job for me please do tell!
or failing that i can make stuff...i have a grinder and a welder....let me know ;) hahaha(just don't tell the tax man)
instruments dies when i got back from bircham, took the dash apart and wiggled a few wires and pocked a few holes and the only thing i got working again is the highbeam light! lame!
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then started to peel away some body work went from this:
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to this
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to this.....
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glad its Alli panels!
I'm putting that 8274 slot in the front now, undecided on the rear.
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but maby this is a possibility!
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i don't think losing the front bumper is a particularly good idea but the trucks with this done look damn cool! also i get a pretty good approach angle just the way it is(on 33s) i would like to go to boggers sometime down the line but as said i am skint and fitting rubber like that causes serious problems!
at this stage I'm open to suggestions, if anyones got some then do let me know ;)
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I never would have thought that a front bumper would look alright on the rear but it could work
The wrap around corners could finish the bottom of the tub a treat :D
What made you try that idea?
As for the front end, the 8274 is a better choice of winch for a monster truck but what are you thinking for the actual bumper wings?
Keep the idea's flowing, this is getting more and more interesting as it progresses
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One other thing to point out
Get some measurements of an 8274 before you weld
If the winch cage stays in this possition the winch might hit the bottom of the bonnet/slam panel
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/P1010025-1.jpg)
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Jake, on the day it arrived i called Liz and she said she couldn't give me definitive measurements it was about 220mm deep and from other pics of 8274s i can sort of guess the height...its not going in that high though if that's what you were thinking :D
as for the rear(front) bumper I'm not sure weather i should or not.......its so pretty and i would have to cut it and reshape it and its allot of money......but then again i didn't pay full whack for it :lol: the steering guard will make a nice rear skid plate too :twisted:
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sorry diddnt answer your question
i was going to modify the D44 bumper to take an 8274 but with my new plan i couldnt do that and moving the 8274 tray to the front ment i diddnt have a rear winch tray or a rear bumper so thought i may aswell give it a go. this also means im not tempted to put an 8274 in the rear now...just an xp or something saves cost :lol:
some more pics of it
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(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/P1010028-3.jpg)
its got to go up and back and it aint the bumper getting the chip! mrwuahahahaha :twisted:
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feel a bit stupid at the moment, the truck was supposed to be going to billing and put on the BLRC stand but i cant get a trailer.......should have sorted that out really. when i clean the garage up a little (and eventually get a work bench!) I'm going to start making one.
anyways.....today i stood around.......looked at it......put somemore back to gether.......looked at it didn't like it then took it apart again! went on like that for about 3 hours. also got the dash working again....was the fuse that i knew nothing about that was under the steering wheel! LAME!
also figured that i work better when I'm not thinking about it....in the 3 hours of looking and dicking about i had serious thoughts about not doing it but then i thought it doesn't look right with such a modified back end and NOTHING done to the front....I'm not quite going as far as a shunt nose at the moment because i would then have to mount the rad in the back with the cooler and do all the pipe work and bracketry on a hoop that isn't even staying there. its not Worth it at the moment. i pretty much have all the materials needed for the job(apart from the tube) so i think it may be cheaper this way......also......shhhhhhhh but i got an interview tomorrow, but shhhhh if my step mum knows she will not stop going on about it! :-$
ANYWAY!
sealed up that drainplug thing on the defender air bin(would have welded it if i had a TIG set)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/6-2.jpg)
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also removed the wiring from the kenlowe that wasn't there
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trying to get the crap out of the way in the engine bay ready for chopping
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i sware i tided up on Wednesday!
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Looking good. My mate has a 'shunt nosed' disco and his rad/intercooler are still in the engine bay.
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tdi.si, anychance of some pics?
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Jake, on the day it arrived i called Liz and she said she couldn't give me definitive measurements it was about 220mm deep and from other pics of 8274s i can sort of guess the height...its not going in that high though if that's what you were thinking :D
This might help ;)
(http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/36084/2968074080102123940S600x600Q85.jpg)
:D
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ah! jake you are the man! cheers for that.
when are you giving yours the chop then? :lol:
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ust read the whole lot, looks bloody immense!! i was thinking of getting rid of me sportraks hardtop (removable anyway) and welding in a panel behind the front seats to turn it into a pickup of sorts. then sorting the suss and everything else out. all ive done at the miute is whacked a gert chunky set of grizzly claws on with no suss lift!hairy but chopped some bits off to make the tyres fit and its not bad. trouble is with the independent front suss, articulation is not the best. :oops:
keep up the good work! top job! :clap:
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ah! jake you are the man! cheers for that.
no problem
when are you giving yours the chop then?
Apart from the arches (which is done) i dont think i'll go any further with the jigsaw
For now anyway :-k
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bravo669: bravo to you sir i cant read the whole thing with out getting bored! if your looking about modding your sportstrack in a similar way i would put all the bolt on stuff on before you do it! that way you get some play from it and you know exactley what you want.
jake:
understandable buddy.
what will a set of boggers cost me from devon jake? i cant load the page up, vista is being gay again! bare in mind i promote you guys more than they do so i think i should be intitled to something like a 75% discount :lol:......and loads of stickers!
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left the camera at the garage so no photos today.
started making the spacers/mounting points for the 8274 tray. also talked to jim at gigglepin....top bloke, really knows how to sell his product! i was begining to sway to one of john sales' stud150 but thats £1400 by its self. the over all set up of the giggle pin winch seems to be alot "cheaper" and as jim said there dominating the uk challange events and seem to be bomb proof!
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boss is your diff running ok with 255/85/16 on and returning ok mpg if u know
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diffs are fine but wouldnt want to go any bigger! if i aquire some boggers i will be summing up the cost difference between strengthinging my axles and an extra few inches o lift against portals and a few days spent with a welder.
sailsburys may be an alternative but i wouldnt know! i see people running agri tyres on them but dont know if they have put in uprated shafts or not.
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like this thing......the site i got it from is no more which is extreeeeeeeeeeeemley annoying!
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like this thing......the site i got it from is no more which is extreeeeeeeeeeeemley annoying!
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/100_0281.jpg)
where might one get those wheels and tyres from?
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swampers dont they slide on wet hill side abit if i recall . would be one hell of a bobtail granted mind . wats the difference between king off road trail edge and swampers anyway
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like this thing......the site i got it from is no more which is extreeeeeeeeeeeemley annoying!
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/100_0281.jpg)
where might one get those wheels and tyres from?
be serious thats an off road special set up . :lol: gr8 for 40 mph ish on the road max . plus a host of uprated drivetrain aswell.
but if u must go pasts 750r 16 dumper tyres try reading or posting on www.pirate4x4.com for that sort of stuff
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like this thing......the site i got it from is no more which is extreeeeeeeeeeeemley annoying!
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/100_0281.jpg)
where might one get those wheels and tyres from?
be serious thats an off road special set up . :lol: gr8 for 40 mph ish on the road max . plus a host of uprated drivetrain aswell.
but if u must go pasts 750r 16 dumper tyres try reading or posting on www.pirate4x4.com for that sort of stuff
you are not one to be saying be serious mate!
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jesus if u like pirate 4x4 so much why do u go onto that forum and stay there you <edited> (http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,53601.0.html)
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there is no need to be like that! however annoying it is. plus to the fact i dont want my thread locked!
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boss i agree these threads may be locked . if so i look right and mr alford should look left so to speak on all thread involeing us or started by us
. i hope ur bulid continues rolling on here . has for him bye ....... .
friendly site is the way foward always.
have u bobtail the front of the disco boss i wasnt sure :-k
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like this thing......the site i got it from is no more which is extreeeeeeeeeeeemley annoying!
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/100_0281.jpg)
where might one get those wheels and tyres from?
Them be tractor tyre o arr(http://cache.hyves-static.net/images/smilies/default/smiley_farmer.gif) If you try searching for agricultural tyre suppliers you should find plent of places that can do them in a wide range of sizes, but as previously said its a slow way of getting about, most tractor tyres are only suitable for speeds up to 30mph. Judging by the price we recently paid for a new set of tyres for one of the tractors at home they are not a particuarly chep option either
The wheels could well be standard tractor wheels as well with different centres bolted/welded into them or custom made items.
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swampers dont they slide on wet hill side abit if i recall
TSL Super Swamper Boggers are the dogs danglies in most situations, including side slopes
We've tested them and they rock!!
Avalible in sizes from 35" to 54" :shock:
If money is no object, dare i say it....I'd have them over Simex :-$
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no one has a problem with you it is just the fact that you can not own up to your mistakes and you then dig the proverbial hole, and it gets worse and worse and worse! to which i assume you can testify too.
anyways. i am looking at putting something like 37s on there(minimum o 36) doing this the wheels on full lock will hit the wings where the battery and "tool kit" are stored so they will have to go. i may also have problems with the foot wells but that's not such a big problem. main problem at the moment is that the 9" grinder i have is [!Expletive Deleted!] and it has a disk stuck in it.....tried everything and cant get it out......may hijack all the guts from it and bin the rest!
if i get my arse in gear and get some 4" disks by the end of the week the front "problem area" will be gone and i can stop umming and areing.
my problem now is to decide on what to do about axles.... portals are very nice but so damn expensive, the Salisbury Axel are few and far between and i just cant find definitive info about them, i could just buy McNamara units or maxidrive and use that stuff but that is alot too! then there is the dreaded yota axle......want to avoid these at all costs but needs must and all that.
any thoughts or input would be greatly appreciated, no matter who you are........just don't be talking about stuff you know nothing of. want to try and clear the air here!
also steve, tractor tyres and boggers are very similar....if they are good enough for farmers they are good enough for me!
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then there is the dreaded yota axle......want to avoid these at all costs but needs must and all that.
Any particular reason or just because they are jap?
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because i know nothing about them and i would preferably like to stay with landrover stuff
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Hi Boss. I realise you've just said you'd like to stick to landrover stuff but having read some of the comments in the recent LRO about the Mog axles from straigh forward being similar in price to fully upgraded LR units (they come standard with heavy duty components and lockers), I wondered if they might not be worth considering.
You seem to have big plans mate. 37's will play merry hell with your drivetrain and if you plan to compete, reliability is a must. I know you lurk a bit on LR 4x4, take another look at some of those threads by the flying spanners lads and their peers like pikey etc, quite alot aspire to nissan/mog/etc axles.
Without wishing to offend, you dont seem to be shy with your dosh so who knows what big F**K OFF axles and rubber will do to your plans, wont need to chop the front if you're an extra foot off the ground :)
Stu.
Then again, the gigglepin landys are running LR axles with ashcroft internals and jumping around like Bo an Luke Duke so its probably the vodka doing the thinking for me again.
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Stu i do lurk on Lr4x4 from time to time, and have spoken to jez about portals a few times....there are major factors to consider when doing a conversion like that though....for a start; you all know what I'm like, i would get the Lr axles off and start [!Expletive Deleted!] around with 1links or 3 links or something else that will set me back another 4 months! also if i were to put portals on i would be in the open class on challenge events.....not something i want to do at the moment, want to work my way up ;) and as you have said cost, at the moment i don't have a mortgage to pay, i don't drink and don't smoke my bmx is complete(and has a rather heavy layer of dust on it) don't have any kids, so i don't really have anywhere else for my income to go. i don't just put all my money into it all i save for a while and buy LOTS of stuff in 1 go. it is not time for another big spend yet....have to save some more and if i get this new job it will be alot easeyer(looking good on that by the way :dance:).
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also, these are just plans that are not necessarily going to happen any time soon...i am just throwing ideas out. i can stay with baby BFGs for a while longer it doesn't hurt i just like to be different! :lol:
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Boss, I apologise. I've just watched the you tube vid of that mog axled disco climbing a log. Zero articulation/travel/suspension in general. It sounded a lot better in stills, if you know what I mean.
Oh the shame. Then I found this : http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=678939
I think I'll keep my opinions to myself in future
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articulation isnt evereything, aslong as you have lockers. chris ables trayback rangerover seems to have alot of flex and that has portals. he will be the one at the top in howlin wolf at the moment.
and what the hell. that disco is huge! 50" boggers? what the hell could you use it for other than a show car?!...i would like to go bigger buit thats too big!
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got more o the winch tray mountings done today :whothedaddy:
absolutely knackering, I'm set up to work near the door of the garage but i put the disco in with its arse pointing out....so I'm welding and grinding then picking up all this glued together metal and carting it around...doesn't sound to bad but when you do it more then 5 times it gets a little taxing.
made the mounting points that will BOLT on to my chassis, well the basic inside "c" section bit is almost finished with some 150 amp action!....my welder had to cool down alot! i really need to invest in an MMA unit! anyway, welded all the bits together going on dimensions from the rear of the chassis thinking its the same on the front....which it is, apart from 2 plates which are welded to the front of the rails.....school boy error! had to the grind 1mm (1/2 on each part) off and hope.....it sort of fits but needed a bit of persuading with the dead blow hammer! i grind more tomorrow.
posted some pics for you all this time.
by the way...i am deaf! bloody grinders and some thieving git has nicked my ear plugs! [person of questionable parentage]!
make 2 of them gluing various bits together
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/2-8.jpg)
grind off where needed
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/1-7.jpg)
tack on spacer plates
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route run
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propper run
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weld edges using your best hottest setting and grind everything that could cause problems off
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should have something like this
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grind some more until you get the tolerances right
and this happens
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in comparison i haven't got much done(in 4 hours)....this annoys me! and I'm having to cannibalize bits off of other things i have made to get that 6mm plate.
am in need of a bit more but i have alot of time left to accumulate more. and don't worry, i know the welds look hideous but it will all be grinded down.
all in all i am thinking it will be very effective. if anyone is looking at making there own bumper i advise using the D44 slots, unless you have the facilities tom make a similar thing your self. but even then this is still a good starting point!
let me know what you think.
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Ah the joys of making winch mounts :|
Probably a bit lat since you've started making it, but I have some drawings for making 6 bolt sides plates which use the 4 bolts at the front of the disco/range rover chassis as well as the 2 bolts behind/under the front cross member.
Its an interesting design your using, are the plates above and bellow the chassis rails for mounting it with verticle bolts?
Keep up the good work and get your self some ear plugs or defenders. That constat ringing in the ears is not very pleasent :roll:
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That constat ringing in the ears is not very pleasent :roll:
i know! :D
there will be no horizontal bolts, the plates above and below are to try and reduce the stress on the bolts and distribute some load on the chassis. i thought if i were to winch up something it will put almost a twisting force on the tray and the bolts don't need to take a pulling load and a twisting load...if that makes sense. i may put some vertical bolts in just to be sure. i was also going to extend it all and bolt to the other holes behind the cross member but i got no more steel :(, the Devon bumper i had on there did it, thought it were quite a good idea.
if all goes well with this one i will be doing the same to the back
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If just the front 4 bolts were used then yes it could impart quite a bit of twisting load onto the front section of the chassis, but using the 6 bolt method the rear pair of bolts can be considered as a fulcrum. The result is when you winch up/down relative to the vehicle the load on the front bolts is just just up/down rather than twisting.
One comment about bolted joint design is n a good structural joint the shear loads on the joint (so in your case winching forwards) should be transmitted through the clamping force of the bolts creating friction between the winch mount and the chassis. The bolts themselfs not needing to physically touching the chassis.
Make sure the winch mount bolts tight on the chassis so that the joints don't slip, otherwise the bolts will take a beating and won't last too long.
You will also need a to weld crush tubes into any additional holes you make in the chassis to stop it bending in when you tighten the bolts, an M12 bolt torqued up to 100Nm has a clamping force of around 50KN IIRC (thats the equiverlant of 5 tons). Idealy the surfaces of the bolted joint should also be nice and flat, which the top and bottom surfaces of a disco chassis are not. Note the extra plates welded on either side of the 4 bolt holes for the front bumper, I would sugest coppying this on the top and bottom of the chassis If you are going to use verticle bolts.
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if in doubt crack out the angle grinder! thats always stood me in good staed! most of the time, sometimes....... :-k
looking good though! :thumbup:
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That bobtail pickup with the big tires (dumper or tractor?) is an interesting one. I think a lot of off road courses won't allow those type of tires.
I can't see any rear shocks on it - is it my eyesight? Also his dislocating springs are an interesting setup. I guess he has just not bothered to bolt the bottom spring platform to the axle and has somehow managed to attach the spring to the top. Seems an odd way of doing it. Mine is the opposite.
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Nothing too odd about that way of dislocating the rear springs. If you can do some basic fabrication then its a very easy way to DIY.
This is what I have on the back of mine, just a few lengths of bar welded to the bottem spring seat to make a cone and 2 lengths of flat with a couple of holes in and some nuts and bolts to clamp the top of the spring to the chassis. So far I've had no issues with this setup and unlike some top dislocation setups that twang every time the relocate I usually forget these are even fitted, they just quietly get on with the job.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/clbarclay/IMG_0995s.jpg)
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thats how i done mine did it about a year ago works great
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that disco on the dumper tyrres could well be the Jones disco which runs on 101 axles & now has 38"boggers,
they won the 90 degree at manby last year
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boss have u considered tubular wings built onto the rear cage
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boss have u considered tubular wings built onto the rear cage
Thats quite a Range Rover
(http://www.mud-club.com/galleryimages/190055-1121684815.)
Bull nosed and bobtailed :twisted:
Tubular front wings are becoming more and more popular with the Challenge scene due to every one getting peed off smashing there wings up and constantly replacing them :roll:
:D
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dont think ive seen a disco done yet :-k
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http://www.youtube.com/v/BrRmVeBEsXE
found this the other day, and the disco has the tubular wings on it.
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Thats a nice machine there :clap: nice to see hime driving as much as he can! I've seen some events where they rely on the winches too much!
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Nothing too odd about that way of dislocating the rear springs. If you can do some basic fabrication then its a very easy way to DIY.
This is what I have on the back of mine, just a few lengths of bar welded to the bottem spring seat to make a cone and 2 lengths of flat with a couple of holes in and some nuts and bolts to clamp the top of the spring to the chassis. So far I've had no issues with this setup and unlike some top dislocation setups that twang every time the relocate I usually forget these are even fitted, they just quietly get on with the job.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/clbarclay/IMG_0995s.jpg)
Yes now I think about it I can see the advantages of doing it that way. My cones are quite short and have a little hook thing to catch the spring. Is yours able to bottom out on the bump stops on the way up or have you not tried out the suspension yet (looks like you are still building or is it an old photo?).
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tubular definitely has its advantages. lightweight and strong, ideal for challenge trucks or similar. i think its a great idea!
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Yes now I think about it I can see the advantages of doing it that way. My cones are quite short and have a little hook thing to catch the spring. Is yours able to bottom out on the bump stops on the way up or have you not tried out the suspension yet (looks like you are still building or is it an old photo?).
Tested? just a few times.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/clbarclay/DSCF0115s.jpg)
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That doesn't mean its finnished :roll: Assuming the tyres and the wheel arches don't try to eat each other then the suspension can travel to the bumpstops whithout the cones catching.
The previous picture was taken mid way though a chassis swap earlier this year, since then the springs have changed and the bumpstops extened (in vaine) to try and stop bigger tyres and the inner arches destroying each other.
One other advantage of dislocation cones like on mine is I can just remove the bolts to the axle, slide in a spring retaining plate and bolt it back together to stop it dislocating for when I eventually get round to trying my hand at RTV trialing.
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that raingie(yellow one) was built by a guy called jez, the full build is on superv8racing.com i think. he built mouse, the yellow "thing" i posted pics of a few days ago. nice bloke.the only 2 discos i have seen with tubular wings is the one on dumper tyres and one that is currently in howling wolf. i haven't been working on the disco for the past few days, been doing a trial at a job in haverhill but I'm not going back....its [!Expletive Deleted!]!
this is a newer photo of the disco.... morealess what I'm aiming for...but different.....
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/t07208-1.jpg)
i got alot of work to do! as i keep saying ihave to get my arse in gear and sort some of this out. i need a way of supporting the disco chassis so i can take all 4 wheels and axles off and make them look pretty and so i can work on the wings. may see if i can half inch some off of mark at the farm. also going to look into making my own stuff from now on(trailing arms, cage, bead lock rims looking into PTO winches).....its a nicer feeling at the end of the day.
but at the moment i have no clue! i am playing it by ear, ill have a plan in my head then diversify from it into something else then into something else. it could even end up as a tray back at the end of my sporadic ideas. its not a good thing to do.
may have some more pics for you tomorrow, got the tray welded up, but I'm not sure weather to weld it to the chassis or to bolt it(i don't have a diecont drill at the moment!)
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I would bolt it on - that way if it gets damaged you can take it off and apply the big hammer. Plus if you think "Hmm, I could have made it better by doing this" in a few months time it'll be much easier to remove it and make way for version 2.0.
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.................its waaaaaaaaaaay past 2.0! so many changes to the plan design and outcome!
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as said, welded some of it together. but not done, need more steel.
i went a bit over board with the welding, am a bit concerned that something will break so there are multiple welds on a HOT setting. itll all get grinded down and made to look nice before it gets put in place for good also need to think of a name for it, a friend came up with Juggernaut....i think because he was watching x-men at the time but i wouldn't know. over all I'm a little lost, i will be back and forth tomorrow measuring and thinking....also looking at What i need from billing ;)
who's going by the way???
anyway
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HOT HOT HOT
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looking better...i was beginning to have second thoughts about the whole thing!
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what ze bloody hell iz zis?
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I should be a Billing for a day, probably saturday but yet decided.
Like wise, I'll be there with a list of parts to obtain. Fortunately its not too long.
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what ze bloody hell iz zis????
Do you mean the Horn??
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is that what it is? :lol: i am rubbish!
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is that what it is? :lol: i am rubbish!
LOL, I can't believe you do all this fabrication work and seriously get into your machine, but don't recognise the horn!
I'm the opposite, can recognise the horn but don't have a clue when it comes to welding and fabrication LOL :doh:
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Yep, that's the horn - very helpful photos for me as I've been trying to work out if an extra pair of horns will fit below the standard ones. Looks as though they will, so more volume should be forthcoming!
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is that what it is? :lol: i am rubbish!
LOL, I can't believe you do all this fabrication work and seriously get into your machine, but don't recognise the horn!
I'm the opposite, can recognise the horn but don't have a clue when it comes to welding and fabrication LOL :doh:
i know all the important stuff! :lol: its just there fancy things i don't know......electrics and what not, I'm getting there :D
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for a start i would say your winch is 2 low,
you will get fed up of it hitting the deck
been there done that with mine & now it sits above the chassis legs
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set yourself an angle tester outside then ull now more and improve as require if u can be bothered to for a few mms
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38.5s boss how much running gear and lift will have to be change for them . plus why not go full tryaback all over
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that raingie(yellow one) was built by a guy called jez, the full build is on superv8racing.com i think. he built mouse, the yellow "thing" i posted pics of a few days ago. nice bloke.the only 2 discos i have seen with tubular wings is the one on dumper tyres and one that is currently in howling wolf. i haven't been working on the disco for the past few days, been doing a trial at a job in haverhill but I'm not going back....its [!Expletive Deleted!]!
this is a newer photo of the disco.... morealess what I'm aiming for...but different.....
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i got alot of work to do! as i keep saying ihave to get my arse in gear and sort some of this out. i need a way of supporting the disco chassis so i can take all 4 wheels and axles off and make them look pretty and so i can work on the wings. may see if i can half inch some off of mark at the farm. also going to look into making my own stuff from now on(trailing arms, cage, bead lock rims looking into PTO winches).....its a nicer feeling at the end of the day.
but at the moment i have no clue! i am playing it by ear, ill have a plan in my head then diversify from it into something else then into something else. it could even end up as a tray back at the end of my sporadic ideas. its not a good thing to do.
may have some more pics for you tomorrow, got the tray welded up, but I'm not sure weather to weld it to the chassis or to bolt it(i don't have a diecont drill at the moment!)
What a mess .....
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the dog bks , so it needs a little tlc but it aint gonna last with that use in mind :D
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don't want to trayback it for the same reason i didn't want an auto....i don't do fashion :lol: the boggers will need around a 4" lift with alot of arch chopping or a 5" with a bit more than i got......i think....that's what the tape measure tells me but i have never actually stood next to 38" tyres.....maby tomorrow will sway me towards 35s :lol: i am beginning to sway to the simex anyway, there just that little bit cheaper, but boggers are just bad :grin:
i am not sure on the winch tray. it may be to low your right but from the dimensions i have got the 8274 wouldn't fit if i made it higher. the chances are that that tray will be going in the back anyways so it matters not.
and as for the blue disco being a "mess" i dissagree, it has caricature and its put to work and by the look of it it works whoops well! besides, you haven't seen mine in full view yet :lol: now that's a mess!
anyway. been playing with the Egr today. made a blanking plate for the manifold out of the old pipe. don't know if it will work, i just filled it in with weld then grinded it all off. worth a try i thought.
ALSO managed to stick on an extra 33.92HP with the trusty k&n sticker would have had more but i don't have any ITG or GREEN stickers :lol:
i have plenty more stickers(pictured below) that have a 100% absolute rude guaranteed power increase., also the green ones willnot make you amazing off road. there FREE! come see me at billing for your free performance sticker. i will be the badly shaved youth with the beard and most probably wearing a hat.....possibility i will be wearing something saying "send more paramedics"...or something about zombies. spot me a mile off! :lol:
no seriously i have free stickers for you that will get you involved in the un power movement on the internet
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made in France urghhh!
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bitchin! but will it work????
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ahhhh yeahh
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powertrip movement stickers free for you all! :lol:
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unfortunately chaps i am looking at moving to saffron Walden, i have an apprenticeship lined up there in hydraulic engineering(well not there but the sourounding area) and the chances are that the truck isn't coming with me, i am going to be re assembling the front again and put the tray on the back where it was originally going. just not going to have the time to work on it like i did so playing silly b*ggers with the front wont be happening for a while:(.
not selling it though. it now has a much shorter list of things to do and it will be out on the mud alot sooner!
also got to clean up the garage a little so if you have seen anything come off of the disco that you want i will trade you for it.
wont be much some things i will trade for a bottel of Dr pepper!
i got:
rear door in its entirety
rear seats
4 springs
rear bumper
heater
air box
300TDI defender air filter(!!!!!brand new!!!!!)
the rear hoop(no doubt jay will snatch that up!)
disco fuel tank
centre console(bit broken but repareable)(better than the 200 one any way :lol:)
CAT pipe(intact)
a cooler to EGR pipe hose
tow bar
full set of defender NAS lights with mounting "plate"
fair few stickers
scrap(if anyone wants to come bye and weigh it in feel free)
may soon have a set of 4 rough country dampers (+5")
and a set of +2" OME springs....i grantee nothing!
an un seized EGR valve
glass for 3 door disco (front doors back)
pollybush kit (minus the hockeystick bushes)
also got the original dampers and damper turrets but I'm not sure if there any good.
again if you have seen in the pics anything that you not so much need but think you may find is usefull give me a shout because it will only get thrown away!
if any of you guys can make use of it you are more than welcome!
thanks
Boss
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Interesting thread, but watch the naughty words please ;)
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sorry about that :(
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boss naughty boy , oh graham bell im as bad at times :oops:
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you think that's bad, you should speak to me in person!
today not much was done, I'm adding a 9" grinder to the list and a small reel of Alli MiG wire
i got the replacement "panel" tacked in....I'm not welding it in yet because ideally i would like to lose the inner wings all together but I'm told its an MOT failure
but then others have told me that's rubbish.....so who knows!
re assembled the front of it too, its looking like a land rover again.
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will this work?????
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much for the full set of NAS lights, posted?
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make me an offer ;)
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boss what about using nas lamps in front bumper on the rear and cage and :waffle broads across the back end :-k was gonna use nas on mine
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that is not a bad idea..... i don't want to put the disco lights back on the tub because they WILL get broken! so if i mount them on top of the cage that will be a problem solved... but isn't there a maximum height for lights? its going to get pretty big!
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has anyone put a dump valve ona disco does it work?
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yes, i am getting one soon and my dad has one fitted. they do work and they sound cool.
you want to got to derv doctor for it, they make a bolt on unit.
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has anyone put a dump valve ona disco does it work?
Does it work doing what? Apart from making a noise there's nowt to be gained by fitting one. I can't think of one diesel racer (using an LR enigne) on the scene thats got one, I don't think any of the big three diesel tuning companies have fitted em either.
Save your money!
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that is because there all using variable vain turbos, the dump valve is to improve response time and lag, with the variable vain nither is applicable.
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helllo boss hows it goin
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that is because there all using variable vain turbos,
Mostly standard turbos on the wagons I've seen / been inolved with.
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dump valve sound ok but surely large intercooler , gas flow heads and larger manifolds would produce more pull. doesnt thre fuel pump pressure have to be uped abit to cope with the start rolling of 35s plus
if nos is used on v8s mega icelandic hill climers . a small lpg tank which is supposed to increase torque by 50 percent roughly would provide mega torque when required
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that is because there all using variable vain turbos, the dump valve is to improve response time and lag, with the variable vain nither is applicable.
this is the funnyest thread in a longtime
a dump valve wont work on a diesel specially a TDi as it doesnt have a throttle butterfly, for a DV to work it requires a vacum to open, something a diesel doesnt naturally create as its an excess air device,
to get good power out a diesel you need more colder air & more fuel, dump valves make no odds other than sounding a bit like a chaved corsa,
although i dont always agree with eeyore i have to this time as oven on a standard 200tdi to get gains is more boost more fuel, bigger IC & exhaust & hello 150Bhp
mines is currently running 150Bhp with the above mods,
next stage would be a T25/28 TURBO with a race pump & injectors, should make 160+ but will be rather black, better option would be got for a 300tdi & fit a race pump & injectors, exhaust & FMIC & gas flow the head, should make 175+ but ticksover a tad high, more ponies & torque would require a bigger turbo or VNt setup but then its all about the package & the finish which ideally needs set up on a rolling road
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Just a brief query, what's an "FMIC"? Guessing it's some sort of intercooler but the FM bit puzzled me. A larger intercooler is probably next on my list, only snag is I have aircon and understand that this makes it difficult to upgrade the IC?
I recall reading somewhere that 150bhp is a sensible output for the 300TDI, trying to go much above that isn't practical for a normal car as it becomes increasingly prone to melting or blowing up.
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i don't know if they used VVturbos it was just a logical assumption that i came to......but assumptions are the mother of all [!Expletive Deleted!] ups!
would have thought a dumpvaulve would make some difference when used in conjunction with other mods. thought the idea of them is to vent the gasses on one side of the turbo to allow air to move more freely and reduce the amount of lag after changing gear. if i am wrong sorry, i can admit to any mistakes made but i am pretty sure it will make a difference, i am completely self taught with this stuff so sorry if i have come across as being a smartass but i would rather you just telling me where i have gone wrong than just taking the Michael!
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Just a brief query, what's an "FMIC"? Guessing it's some sort of intercooler but the FM bit puzzled me. A larger intercooler is probably next on my list, only snag is I have aircon and understand that this makes it difficult to upgrade the IC?
I recall reading somewhere that 150bhp is a sensible output for the 300TDI, trying to go much above that isn't practical for a normal car as it becomes increasingly prone to melting or blowing up.
FMIC= Front mount intercooler
on a tdi the cooler is mounted on one side,
150bhp is a good drivable car & does not bad on fuel, mine returns 25mpg on road tyres
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mike, what have exactley have you done to get that?
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That's a relief, I thought FMIC stood for Frickin' Massive InterCooler! :lol:
Does anyone know anything about fitting a larger intercooler to a 300 TDI with aircon? I've seen some solutions involving twin smaller intercoolers, one of which was between the chassis rails. Oddly enough the idea of putting a fragile part down there on an off roader doesn't appeal!
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That is funny, one of the lads at work has just got a hilux pick up and the first thing i noticed was the intercooler screaming out for a rock to hit it. first time he asked me to go off road with him he put a rock through it and then wondered where the power had gone when my 200tdi heap was leaving him for dust. that was a real, they didnt think about this when designing it moment.
On the dump valve idea, i recently pulled my exhaust off with a rather large branch, it came appart just after the turbo and if you want a cool noice that is what to do, hearing the turbo wistle when changing gear with the added noice of a tractor inbetween, but the exhast fumes do come into the cab so not ideal. hehehe
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Jeremy Fearne's website mentions aircon-fitted Discos on the intercooler upgrade pricelist. He charges an extra £50 to kit them out so it must be feasible, just takes a bit longer. I can't see him resorting to satellite intercoolers in vulnerable places with his experience of these things.
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right....back to the matter in hand
as I'm moving(and probably into a smaller garage) the roll bar had to come off, it put up a good fight but i win! :grin:. its sitting in the garage waiting for jay to come get it. chopped even more of the chassis off as well. the winch tray is going in the back and because the rear of the chassis has the curve in it, it wouldn't fit properly, so broke out the trusty grinder. some new yanks moved in to the bungalow opposite, they came over for a look and asked if it was a Chevy blazer with a body kit.....not the first time this has happend, anyway pointed out the LAND ROVER writing on the bonnet and instantly asked if it was a v8 when i say its diesel they start taking the [throw it]...mines louder than the tall ones v8 dodge ram :azn: HA!
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bloomin yanks!
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bah! tray wouldn't fit properly so had to undo all the work i had already done!mounting it a little higher too.....no particular reason i just think it looks better. apart from that sweet f/a done! chance that it will be going to peterborough, i missed billing on account it was in pieces....the BLRC stand was shamefull too!. hopefully will be at landrover fest.
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its hard to tell boss where to mount stuff when ur fussy . every day seems like uve done ablos f/a . be worth it in the end
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2 words.....ha ha
will you be at landrover fest steve?
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please please do something with the rs of your disco cos other wise i may be forced to come & do it for you :lol:
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2 words.....ha ha
will you be at landrover fest steve?
when is it boss ?
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calm down im getting there [-X
im not 100% on when it is, i went last year and thought it were good(better than billing). had a speed track there and evereything!
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tacked in. need to get a move on because im off to play very soon;) photos taken by the phone because i forgot to put the sd card back in the camera :roll:
not welding it in just yet, i have next to no gas left so trying to preserve it for the moment.
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i think you shoudlk hould replace the original boot floor with either a thicker steel or aluminium with a coating of marine ply and some chequer plate what you think?
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i think i hate chequer plate ;)
the floor will be replaced when i put a tumble bar on. i have no way of getting to the chassis otherwise.
i will try to find a nice thick piece of Alli.....sourced from a road side maby :lol: i joke but it probably wont be chequer plate.
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i think i hate chequer plate ;)
the floor will be replaced when i put a tumble bar on. i have no way of getting to the chassis otherwise.
i will try to find a nice thick piece of Alli.....sourced from a road side maby :lol: i joke but it probably wont be chequer plate.
i dony know if uve seen the series "a 4x4 is born"??? if u get a chance whatch what he does with the back of his its mustard i think as hir rollcage is direct to the chassis
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You can DL "A 4x4 is Born" from mininova using a torrent client such as uTorrent. I did, watched it about 10 times now :)
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have recorded it all on the sky+, i am not a fan of that 100", i think im the only one! its not that i dont like it i think its beautiffuly done and alot of time has gone into it but he has done evereything i wouldnt do!! he puts all that time into a paint job which will only get scratched, a v8 isnt a choice i would make for an off roader, and if i was going to sort the axels out all in one go i would buy portals........i would wouldnt get a deal with scrapiron racing!
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more body chopping. setting out to neaten it up a little but i don't think i have done a very good job!
what are peoples opinions?
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still waiting for jay to pic up that damn roll bar!
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more body chopping. setting out to neaten it up a little but i don't think i have done a very good job!
what are peoples opinions?
Oh you tease!
You know that the whole of the Mud Club think that this is simply fantastic!
Keep it up.............
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do we ;) think i prefer the tubelar one instead. think it gonna need a phat rear bumper with 38s and 15 inch wide. on the ass_end
maybe
something similar to 90 comp front winch bumper from golddigger 4x4
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like the shunt nose the 38s wont be happening!....yet! got to keep it as low down as possible because of the new house.....i think its going to be a bit of a squeeze getting it in and out so i will probably have to rig up a ray mears tent and work outside:( my co-driver to be wants to enter an event in November and theres alot to do between now and then (plus i have another little idea what I'm not mentioning at the moment to finish)
to make something like the golddigga bumper that would provide enough clearance would require me to move the tray upwards....i think if i did that i wouldn't have enough weld contact on the winch tray, hence the reason for angling the "bumper to be". it also protects the tyres from the sharp arches, found a gouge in my tyre yesterday that i can only put down to the arches!
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like the shunt nose the 38s wont be happening!....yet! got to keep it as low down as possible because of the new house.....i think its going to be a bit of a squeeze getting it in and out
Just in case you don't have enough on your hands then what your truck need is hydraulic (or air :-#) suspension so it can be lowered when needed.
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like the shunt nose the 38s wont be happening!....yet! got to keep it as low down as possible because of the new house.....i think its going to be a bit of a squeeze getting it in and out so i will probably have to rig up a ray mears tent and work outside:(
what's wrong with the simple solution Boss?? either have a set of old rims with old 205 x 50 x 16 tyres on (24" rolling dimeter) for moving it in and out of garage to work on, it will look bliddy ridiculous but it will also drop your roofline by 4.5 or 5.5 inches assuming you've got 33's or 35's at the minute, or even cheaper just drop the pressures right down to get it in or out, you can always put them up again once it's through the door so they don't sit flat.
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that thought did occur to me but then i also thought i have to change the tyres over after i take it out weather they be muddy or not and what ever the weather! also got to find somewhere to keep 4-5 38" boggers! Chris Abel is selling his iroks and i got my eye on them but I'm not paying over 550 for them! i think he wants allot more than that, they start at 400 but i refuse to get into bidding wars on eBay! if in the event that i do get some nice big tyres then i will be going down the farm and hijacking some of marks old wheels! i will probably have to do this anyway because the cage is going to put another 2.5" inches in to the height, still no word from Shaun BTW. he is going to lose out on business if he doesn't get a move on, i cant afford to wait much longer!
can anyone tell me whats wrong with this dimension
2.5"
the first person to get it will get a free k&n sticker!
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mix of metric and imperial..??
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Should be 2 1/2" :) Do i get a sticker?
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The problem with 2.5" is its a very small length for a pen is
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hehe!! :grin:
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Should be 2 1/2" :) Do i get a sticker?
but i was first for a special sticker..... :grin:
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blast! pm me your adress and ill send you an assortment of stickers
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mix of metric and imperial..??
Wheres the metric? decimal maby but its still in inches
Doesn't matter whether you express it as decimal or as a fraction its still measured using imperial units.
because the cage is going to put another 2.5" inches in to the height
This could be classes as wrong though where used both the abriviation for inches and the word. For example have you ever done the same with metric and writen
2.5mm millimeters
Obviously its late and any sense of humour has left me.
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i threatend to do it ages ago and in the end finaly made a start on making the axels look a little better. wasnt nice looking at nice shiny new parts and having nasty muddy crappy axels! took those stuped disk protectors off too! appart from that [!Expletive Deleted!] all done!
going to be sorting out the rear "bumper" soon aswell, i dont like it!
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Good idea to get rid off them disc protectors, I just had a stone stuck in there after laning at the weekend, makes a horrible noise :x
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Glad youre sorting that back end out Boss.
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im thinking about going down the line of not having a rear bumper! jsut a tray....but then again ive also been leaking about with the idea of selling the body and make a 100" hybrid trayback! or get a RRC. getting annoyd with the body work TBH. not modification frendley!
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OK, childish side coming out now! caught jays thread lastnight and saw how far along he is, i have been at this for longer than him and i am falling behind! this is not good! and makes me look bad! nothing against jay at all just it has made me realise how much of a slacker i am! SO, started a little bit of fab work today on the arse end, lights will probably be in tomorrow provided nothing goes wrong(touch wood) it does all look a bit scruffy but its a really hard area to work properly so i have done it within the time i have allowed myself and i will make it look a bit better later down the line! it holds fine so its OK for now!
started the day outside then the wind picked up
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fold it
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seen worse
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needs chopping :|
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glued with silicone and popped with rivvets!
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as i am writing this i can almost hear some of you saying "why the hell has he only done 1!" well its one of those jobs where is takes hours to do the first one then about 45Min's for the second one. hopefully should be done for tomorrow.
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more lazyness!
cut my hair too....gave my self a jar head......
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plugged the lights in and nothing happend....maby missing an earth or a fuse has gone, i don't know, not one that works with wires well :roll:
Ive got this spaghetti mess that is the wiring loom in the cab.....i don't need half the crap on there, is it possible to cut all the unwanted feeds off with out any major repercussions????
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no idea about electrics, but it does sound like a bad earth or a fuse, that would be a good starting point. back end looks topjob now, i like how it looks alot. good work!
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ta bud, the back end will look a lot better tomorow when i get the bracing for the lights back in (i had to cut aload out) also now those stuped disk shields are off i can clean the inside of my wheel.
does anyone know where i can get disco breaks on the cheap? they dont have to be good as its only going to be on the road for about 20% of its life now!
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the back looking much better - welldone, its a difficult thing to acheive with those arches
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HOWS THAT?! :D
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Yeh, much prefer that back end now :clap:
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love it!
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Thats better
Good work Doug
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thank you for all the positive feed back :D
new photos for jay(and the rest of you i guess), that ought to hold you for a while mate but you really need to get yours muddy! :lol: :thumbup:
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went on down to BOC today and got some gas. along with other goodies like self locking mole grips! amazing :grin:! anyone who has done a project like this can tell you that there are highs and lows to it all, i was approaching a low then this happend and made me smile again!
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i think it is all coming together pretty well! its the first time that i have truly felt Happy about it all!
the amazing molegrips that don't need to be adjusted! spent ages just seeing what they would and wouldn't grip on to!
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as it was before the paint.....still not sure on the shiny black! but this is it after i ran a flap disk over it....some rather hideous welds i know but they have all penetrated! would like to invest in a nice 3phase MiG set and an AC/DC TIG plant but i cant afford to do that and continue with the truck so i think ill make do for the while.
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today there was lots of swaring, decided id had enough of oil patches on the garage floor (started to look a bit messey...er)so i took the sump off and put some new goo on it. fingers crossed that will be that . i had never done the job before and looking back on it it was a stuped mistake but when i undid the drain plug i had the bowl under it waiting for it to trickle out......it [!Expletive Deleted!] out! all over my neck and right arm! will not be making that mistake again! also shed aload of things that wernt nessasary/broken, the doghnut thing and my steering damper was pretty mullerd so took that off too.
took a photo of the back end with the lights in and i now know it wont be long now :grin:
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i have done that before, it goes EVERYWHERE :evil:
now i know where to strategically place the bowl about a foot further back from the sump lol
good work buddy looking gooooood :clap:
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ah! at least I'm not the only one! :lol:
did nothing today. had to help some one get a fridge and move it about. and do some painting.
cut the waffle board to fit, shouldn't have really because there my dads but i have used them more than he ever has/will! my case proven.
sprayed all the raw metal i could find with plasticoat and made measurements to finally fit and secure the light fixings properly. so should be "done" tomorrow
i know i shouldn't make claims like that but i think it might be.
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came home early today, feel like [!Expletive Deleted!] and there are problems with the females of the species and on top of that my driving test was canceled which now puts my apprenticeship in jeopardy all this is making me weld like poo and i haven't been sleeping well and I'm just not up to it all. there was a threat of it being finished today but my already lousey attitude took another blow when the lights still refused to work. just went down hill from there.
some pics of crap welding for you, now I'm going to crawl into bed and die!
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Boss, my only observation is this.... You may not name your disco "Daisy" as it is my daughters name and therefore taken. Also IMHO Landrovers are boys, just ask our Hercules :lol:
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ok.....so your ride is a guy!
says alot about you :lol:
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im with boss on this
mine is called dent for obvious reasons but she is most definatly a girl :lol:
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Whenever I ride I prefer a stallion beneath me....
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Whenever I ride I prefer a stallion beneath me....
:oops: :oops: :oops: :-# :-# :-# :oops: :oops: :oops:
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not much to report today, apart from after filling it up with oil again the leak persisted which leads me to belive its the oil main seal :( engine or gear box out again! chopped out one of the inner wings, dispite the debate on weather they are mot testable.
in the prosess i found a better place for my air box! yay! we like it when this happens.
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More pics needed mate, how does the pipework fit, can you get filters in and out, do you just remove it when it needs changing, how is it attached. As I told you the other day, I'm looking to relocate mine so this might be just the ticket.
One thought, looks close to the exhaust maniflod, is it close enough to get hot? That wouldnt be good for performance methinks.
Stu.
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stu, it is a 300TDI defender air box that you need to do this. all the piping is 3" bore so air flow is a little better, it being close to the manifold did not occour to me i may have got my self into a little trouble :-k you have to remove the EGR valve. not just blank it off like i have seen some people do but remove the lot then it fits niceley. more pics later im leaving now.
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i hate the colourfull spaghetti! :evil:
chopped the other wing out. re fitting the fuse box in the cab with me which should keep it out of harms way. header tank is moved to where the battery was....not sure weather that will work very well as its dropped by about an inch. the battery i had plans to go in the cab with me but luckily i called my dad up before i did anything drastic (he used to build/race caterham 7s) he said that there would be no problem with that if the battery is sealed.....which mine isn't.
had already pulled the ....um....red battery lead around the back of the engine(where it disappears) along the gear box and out the 2ND hole in the gearbox tunnel where the LHD hand brake would fit. now going to buy some more cable and mount it in the truck bed. will make a nice box out of the stupid box my grinder came in!
in the proses of thinking i can putt the batt in the cab i cleaned it out and took out the carpet. now looks alot better and doesn't have that smell that ALL discovery's have!
also, Stu i hope these pics help you in some way :thumbup:
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also just noticed my poll, funny stuff :clap:
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Hi, what is the purpose of removing the inner wings?, also are you leaving the battery tray bit in as thy are the bit that gives the most greif with tyre fouling :?
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there are a few reasons, the main reason was because they were rusty and i couldn't be botherd to replace/knock up patch panels. there have been a few other benefits from this such as weight loss, easeyer to work on various things in the engine bay and the learning curve has been almost vertical...as a rule of thumb i don't play with electrics...i see all the colours in a tangled mess and i fall to the floor and have a fit :lol: but this way i have had to move allot of things and replace a few bits and i have learnt allot.
i am aware that the battery box causes the most problems but it isn't a problem at the moment, I'm only running baby tyres but when i get the bigger rubber on there will be more dicking about with the front end!
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My mate has put bolt in pannels in to replace his inner wings on his SJ. You might want to consider this because when I bought mine they had rust holes in and the whole engine bay gets covered in crap, makes it really nice to work on!
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The replacement front inner wings for mine were designed to fit on earlier RRC where the front wings were origionally bolted on. I still had to weld the front of the replacement pannels on as they were on part front inner wing assemblies, but I bolted them to the bulk head which was easier than welding.
One down side with this, its possible to spend more on replacment inner wing assemblies that some RRCs are worth. The other is I haven't seen wing replacements pannels for discoveries so you would probably have to addapt RRC pannels to fit instead.
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http://www.yrm-metal-solutions.com/page5.htm
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The YRM one look like just a repair section
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The SPI ones I got were more like pattern parts (complete with bigs like the brake line mounting bracket) than repair sections
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And like I say for a RRC you can get prety much the a hole new front end to bolt on
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but it will cost around £260 for the privalage.
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i used RRC inner wings on my disco, i removed the RR headlamp boxes and used the disco ones :)
i wouldnt run without inner wings...would be ok if you want to plant some vegetables on the engine after an offroad session :lol:
your intake temps wont do your performance any good either with the airbox there....it will be acting as an interwarmer :grin:
i,d move it back if i was you ;)
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'interwarmer'..... :lol: :lol: :lol: thats ace
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thought i had better do an update as i haven't posted on this in a while. no pics for you though! you'll have to wait (that's if you still care and haven't excommunicated me!).
battery is all in its new place, wired up and works fine.some of you may be thinking why has this taken so long, well i am STILL useless with the colourfull spaghetti! i hate it i don't like it and it doesn't like me, I'm still raging a war over the rear lights which refuse to work! which is annoying because the nas lights i had on there for all of 30 mins worked fine. helped the girlfriend move house too, amazing how much crap you find out you have when you move! worked out quite well for me though. i got a perfectly usable table out of it...now my work bench, for the first time in the build i no longer have to measure/mark out/ cut/shape/weld anything on the floor huzzah! also got a bench grinder to go with my new work bench so no more death defying stunts with the little 4" grinder and most importantly i got a vice! i never realised how much you use a vice until i didn't have one! its a propper one too 7" inch jaw and a leaver thing to make it slide and of course its about 25 years old so it was made back when they made things properly! all good stuff. also i would like to add i think i have finally got the hang of this filling lark. i have painted the front and rear Axel in anthracite plasticoat....which i didn't like so I'm off to halfords tomorrow for some matt black.
moved my passinger seat an extra inch forward(all it would allow) because my co-driver to be is quite short in the leg, so should be a bit better for her.
managed to take a big 'ol' gouge out of my god damn fuel tank as well! this angers me! but you cant see it so i don't have to deal with the shame!
i am finalising my plans for bigger and better things too. i know what I'm doing, i have a plan and I'm not telling anyone!bit sick of people telling me things that may not necessarily be true...... i know what i mean!
we already have big big plans for next year....not telling those either, not because its a secret but because i think its funnier in my own little way this way :lol.
i haven't slept in 2 days and i think its beginning to show, its taken me about 45 minutes to write this out and i get the order of the letters muddled up easy. thank god for spell checker.... it is also quite difficult to remember what i have done to the truck when I'm this tired. it is not good. i got to try to get some sleep, i got to get the truck ready.
thank you, good night
Boss
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nice work dude keep it up :)
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small update. dameras gone doolally so 90% of the pics i have taken over the past few weeks are really really blurry. thinking about selling the body and starting over with the rolling chassis. everey "james blunt" is making a disco truck.....dont do fashion. but we will see.
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