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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: boss on November 19, 2008, 18:58:42
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OK....where to start
.....I'm not happy with the disco. all in, it preforms very well and i can not fault it on anything. but everything i have done just seems small, i would like bigger and better things out of it. the disco was in a state of finished-ness as few weeks ago but i haven't been updating my post for reasons you will all understand soon.i am also sick of the fashion thing, when i started this build disco trucks were few and far between, not a diecent build thread and not very cooperative builders. now there are a fair few of them knocking around, all pretty much looking the same and i don't like this. i like to be different.so my solution is a rebuild! as discussed in my old thread i am going to shunt nose it! yes, i am actually going through with it this time! i have many many plans, plans which i am yet to see on a disco and if all goes well i will be at Ladoga 09 which is something i have wanted to have a go at ever since i started this landrover lark.
spec list will include
front and rear roll hoops from north offroad
front and rear coilovers
front and rear 1-link(provided the company has them out by that time)
front and rear STUD150s
all panels(where possible) lightend or removed
rad moved to the rear
twin intercoolers
37"interco boggers
HD axle set
15" beadlocking wheels
front and rear D44 winch trays
would like portals...but there too damn expensive could get a large am mount of the build done with the money i would have to spend to get a diecent set.
most parts of the truck will be stripped out and either be re conned or re-built. i know there will be doubters reading this but unlike a certain ex-member i usually go through with my plans unless there is a legitimate reason to stop.....
anyways i have deliberately strung this out for as long as possible to get you all to read the intro before you notice that there are photos attached. :lol:
now you will realise that i really do mean it
thanks for reading
the young disco chopping maniac :grin:
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Wow, you have been busy.
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not really....cage was done in 2 days and the front end violation took about 2 hours with builders tea breaks :cool:
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good luck boss
how long you reckon its going to take you?
Jay
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Superb! Like your style and your ideas, I admire people who just get on and do things with their vehicles, I'm still building my hybrid 2a/90 and I started it before my first daughter was born and she's 11 in a couple of weeks :shocked:
I'll get it finished one of these days, really just needs the engine plumbed in(ripped out the V8 and stuck a diesel in) and the electrics tidied but its been like that for so long, you've spurred me on to get it finished now :grin:
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that i dont know, really i need the coil overs first. if neil at leda cant do me a nice price then im going to milner and buying some foxshocks.
then ill move on to suspension links ect....the whole thing needs holding up to start with! its on bricks hhahaha
all in all its just a matter of talking to people and making the right buy at the right time. might see if i can get sponsored :lol:
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Superb! Like your style and your ideas, I admire people who just get on and do things with their vehicles, I'm still building my hybrid 2a/90 and I started it before my first daughter was born and she's 11 in a couple of weeks :shocked:
I'll get it finished one of these days, really just needs the engine plumbed in(ripped out the V8 and stuck a diesel in) and the electrics tidied but its been like that for so long, you've spurred me on to get it finished now :grin:
yes, but im sure your hybrid looks alot better than the disco :lol:
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I'm sure it'll look good when it's done but I keep changing my mind about hard top,truck cab and tilts, Stage One front, Series or 90 windscreen, Series or 90 wings, rear cage,full cage, etc,etc :?
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do what jez did with petal :grin:
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:shock:KINELL! :clap:
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hahaha no, mouse is his new one, that is trueley a cause to drool!
will dig up a pic
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absolute insanity!
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hahaha no, mouse is his new one, that is trueley a cause to drool!
will dig up a pic
Phew! That's a bit out of my league I think :rolleyes:
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Go for it Dude :twisted:
Remember take the bits off carefully you might get something for them towards the build ;)
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hahahaha way ahead of you lee, not making the same mistake again and just cutting stuff off! hahahaha
if the disco gets done to the spec that i want it will be a vehicle to be feared! :twisted: were talking 40" coilovers!
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Nice one Doug
Sounds like your going to make one heck of a disco :twisted:
Keep them pictures coming and good luck
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mr. jake.......pm sent
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how tireing! i dont know if you have ever lifted a door but there bloody heavy! and theres 2 of them!
whos idea was that! anyways, took them off. cut off the front body mounts, gave the front end of the chassis a bit of a tidy up. if you all cleaned the gunk that settles on top of your chassis rails you all would be better off on fuel! good god! there was loads of it! took the front suspension off too(is all up for sale if yany of you are interested) took longer than i hoped as i had a problem with one of my spring compressors. hopefully getting some dosh tonight aswell so parts may start arriving soon :grin: took the inlet manifold off and gave it a bit of a clean but im nowhere near getting it how i want it.
also managed to clear aload of room...so now i can move around....dance do whhat ever i want :D
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God that manifold is manky!
Note to self, check manifold and clean it ;)
Did you find that other photo of Jez's motor?
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:lol: that manifold has only had 89k through it! anyone have any recomendations on something good to clean it out with? im going to polish the ports but the inside is still caked over!
the vehicle known as petal
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the vehicle known as mouse
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similar look but why change a design that works!
full build here http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=23982 i maintain the guy need help hhahahhaha
if my disco ends up half as good as mouse i will be very very happy :D
also forgot to mention in my post. i may have to extend the wheelbase by a few inches.....not sure if 37s will fit ok with out problems with the footwells.
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You could try one of those flexible drill bit attachments with a small soft wire brush or other dremmell accessory. If you have a dremmell or similar die grinder I think you can get flexi extensions for those to.
Best of luck Boss, you aint playin games!
Stu.
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Your a man on a mission alright...lol. Good luck and keep the pictures coming.
Mark.
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i like you style :)
keep up the good work bro
watchin with intrest :)
dan
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BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
you know its cold when you lean on your car and you arm gets stuck to it! also the stones on the drive are frozen together! was in the garage with a big thick coat on and wooly hat and a buff....looked like a dodgy ninja :grin:
more violation has occoured! pulled the doors apart, i can lift them with one arm now!!!!! huzzar! still a long way to go though :-k
if anyone needs glass or wants central locking actuators let me know :)
sprayed one side black,not sure on it, want to go black becasue its a wideley avalable colour, i couldnt find anywhere that would sell me the correct paint in spraycan form.....had to settle with fords forrest green urghhhh! close enough match though.
looks like im going to have to chop some of the front chassis away now to get the desired effect. may also mean i have to go full hydro....also something im not keen on. the temptation of a trayback is becoming greater by the day! i dont really want to becasue everey james blunt and his dog is using a tray back and i dont do fashion.
another benifit if spraying it black is that its not like a black bord! can write all my notes/to do list on there which is handy :D
anyway, photos for you i will be doing more measuring tomorow and see how much needs trimming.sorry theres not much in the way of a build at the moment but the small amount of dosh i did get together my female spent on x-mas stuff. not impressed!
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[Edited] are you doing to that nice botail LOL.
Jay
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Bring on the cutting tools!!!
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done some thinking with the help of the calculator.......im going to have to cuth the chassis down at the front by about 2-4 inches and cut the cross member out, the rear i will have to cut off even more! and weld on some straight pieces of box (rather do this than chop the winch trays about) not good:(
cost of things are going up aswell...just seen some of the new breed of russian trucks.....if im going to be competitive in any way over there i will need portals :sad: more to the list of stuff to buy.....
devon 4x4 want any advertising over seas jake? :lol:
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This sounds like an expensive build dude!!
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Ker-ching
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hmm....cost is irrelivant if its something you do anyway. it is very much a case of you get as much out of it as you put in.....
think the ker-ching-ing is a bit premature m8 at the moment the only bits that i need from D44 are the trays and the boggers. and maby a winch man if you want to come along ;)
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was chipping away again today. doing more measuring, little of this little of that. re attached a door and the difference that not having anything in there is increadable! its so light on the hinges! black is now the decided colour. been measuring up and considering a trayback but i think it will look too much like chris abels rangerover....i do not want this. so i might just leave it. cleaned out the inlet, had to do it the old fashon way and use rags....i have blisters on my fingers :(
but what ever all worth it in the end.
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and maby a winch man if you want to come along ;)
Are you entering something soon then?
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unfortunatley not :( looks like jen is in the same boat as me so atleast i will have someone to moan with :lol:
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Boss
would you be interested in a complete gigglepin 8274 setup?
Winch with twin motors, wiring solenoids & big wiring?
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mike yes! yes i would
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pm me what you would offer
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Dude i have been following your builds and am some what in awe of them.
but one thing puzzles me.. how you can afford to do all this.. i'm 18 and i am
struggling just to keep mine on the road! let alone thinking about buying swamp boggers
and winches ect..
so yea tell me your secret! :dance:
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dan,i work my arse off! i dont drink/smoke/drugs/pay rent(in money)/have kids and i have built up the other things i do prior to this
i actually started to build this before i had a valid uk licance so a car wasnt sucking funds away...
they dont actually work out to be that much aslong as you do research and plan exactley what your going to do and shop around a little. the hardest thing to do is find a location to build one if you dont already have one :lol:
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went over to overland today and pulled a favor, came back as the propriotor of a RRC bonnet with the pannel behind it. but before i started to mess about with that i wanted to see what the disco looked like with the standard bonnet and wing on. not bad as it turned out! diddnt really want to got for the RRC bonnet becasue ut would then look like a RR and i would have to explane that to evereyone who diddnt know. not sure weather ill bother with the RR bonnet :lol:.
sorry there isnt too much building going on. im doing alot of measuring and there are no parts coming in at the moment :undecided: fingers crossed there will be soon.
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im sorry, but why would you want a stud ?
i bitched for glynn yates the other week ( well...briefly until it broke as usual :roll: and ended up using my truck :roll:)
and in all honestly, i was expecting big things from the winch, but in realitly, it was crap, ok they will pull all day, but 8274's are quicker
i reached the summit of a hill that salesy was doing at the side of me quicker than he got there, and im running a 8274 with single motor ( ok on 24v through 12v )
and, they dont work when your on your side :roll:
a rescent test also showed that the twinmotor 8274 was twice as fast as the stud, pulling a car up a hill in 16s vs the studs 32s
my penny worth
btw...that disco looks the danglies now, so get it finished
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dan, john could not provide me with a vid of the stud150 in action...like i say i want to go to russia and i hear that lecci winches dont last too long. when i was talking to john he said that they were geared the same as a mile marker type-r and used the same motor to which i thought"hey a meatey type-r for not as much money!" however when stefan came over to pick up my wheels he was saying that a twinmotor 8274 would work fine. like you say the hydro winches do not work when your on your side which was always a concern. i am swaying towards the 8274 now...i think they will be easeyer to set up if nothing else. maby put a D&G PTO on the front too for the heavy long pulls.
winches are a long way down the line at the moment i still got to sort other bits a bobs out first( :roll:) not really worth investing in a winch and not have any wheels :lol:
there are new photos
however i cannot load them up becasue my dad has taken it apon himself to conduct a scan on the pooter.......not when im out violating the discovery, he waits untill i get home! NICE! but baisically the cage is off, the tank is off and MORE measuring has been done.
maby pics later, if not then tomorow morning.....thats if anyone is still interested :lol:
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got my girlfriends ipod plugged in too, which isnt too bad there is some good music on there but some times you will be listening to pearljam andd the fray come one afterwards! or the feeling.....words cannot discribe how much i hate those bands! :evil:
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how do you take a fiscous fan off? and maby a stuped question but does an intercooler need a fan????
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the fan is left hand tread.
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You need a viscous fan spanner - like a normal one but cranked so that it can slot in behind the viscous unit and access the nut.
Does an intercooler need a fan? - No. Would it benefit from a fan at slow speed where cooling due to airflow is minimal? - Yes, at least I think it would. That said, I don't run one and haven't noticed a drop in performance. Then again, I gauge performance on the scale of crap, crapper, crappest. I'm currently crapper....
Stu.
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could i not use a conventional spanner? if the cooler doesnt need a fan then it wont get one :lol:need to make as much room at the front as possible!
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could i not use a conventional spanner? if the cooler doesnt need a fan then it wont get one :lol:need to make as much room at the front as possible!
shall i point out the obvious.....the fan isnt cooling the intercooler...thats the < [-X>radiatior its there to cool :lol: :lol: :lol:
Remove the fan and see what happens :lol: :lol: :lol:
not being funny but would you not have been better getting some fun out of it before cutting it up again :-., as for bullnosing it...well ok if you need to but have you found it nescesarry?, tightly tucked in bumper and a decent lift with 35s fitted and they are ok
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...im doing it becasue i can
and i mdoing it because you dont see it evereyday
and sureley the fan will be dragging air through the cooler aswell. so the way i see it it was a valid question!
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Hello boss as your not on msn so thought il say hello :D
Jay.
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...im doing it becasue i can
and i mdoing it because you dont see it evereyday
and sureley the fan will be dragging air through the cooler aswell. so the way i see it it was a valid question!
possibly a tiny ammount of air through the cooler....not being funny..yet again...but if you had to ask about removing the fan/cooler thing / and forgot the rad bit.....should you really be doing this???
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were getting a little off topic here, i ask a simple question to which i did no know the answer and now your taking the [throw it]
maby if you read the thread you will have seen that the rad is going to the back which is why im asking about a fan for the cooler
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Without wishing to get in between you two, I'll just point out that the fan shroud is shaped in such a way that it covers the intercooler - hence it does draw air over the intercooler - which is why its a pain to get out.
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its black
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Black is the new green
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could i not use a conventional spanner? if the cooler doesnt need a fan then it wont get one :lol:need to make as much room at the front as possible!
shall i point out the obvious.....the fan isnt cooling the intercooler...thats the fooking radiatior its there to cool :lol: :lol: :lol:
Remove the fan and see what happens :lol: :lol: :lol:
not being funny but would you not have been better getting some fun out of it before cutting it up again :-., as for bullnosing it...well ok if you need to but have you found it nescesarry?, tightly tucked in bumper and a decent lift with 35s fitted and they are ok
actually, the std viscous is pulling air through the intercooler aswel :roll:
boss, fit a cooling fan to the intercooler (if your going to use full width), as at low speeds there in-efficiant, and are just sapping response time of the engine unless your at least aiding it with abit of air flow through it :roll:
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Iv heard of fitting small leccy fans to intercoolers - not sure the pros n cons tho, i just use a spanner and hammer to get the viscous off, harder without belt on her tho. looking good tho man, can't wait to see how it all comes together!
Staying black? or any other colours gonna creep in there?
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i used a cold chisel on my viscous fan nut and as already said remember its a left hand thread :)
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camera is K.I.A. so you wont be receiving any more pics for a while. Ive taken the boot floor out and the fan is off....no chisel, used a fan spanner :police:.
also came into the garage the other day and the disco was sitting on its brake disks! the [!Expletive Deleted!] Axel stands that i have(don't know where they came from they just appeared one day) bent and the end result is a much much lower disco :? really could have done with out that but its not the end of the world.
I'm looking at chopping out the rear panel but i don't really like to get wet(from rain) so i don't know weather i should or not, there is alot of weight to be saved and it will add an element of character to it, but sideways rain really pisses me off!. it is totally black now. looks a cool, went for satin black but now it shows up every dent scratch and crease in the body work....more character :D
any advice or pointers would be greatly appreciated
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any advice or pointers would be greatly appreciated
Invest in another camera :lol:
That and keep up the good work.
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ah well.....might be able to locate another :D
rememberd i have one on my phone although i a a firm beliver that a phone is for calling people and not for going on the net and taking pictures! i guess that is the reason why the camera is [!Expletive Deleted!] on my phone :lol:
fair ammount of violation today. took the seats and head liner out. anyone know how to get the heater controles out of the dash?????
and i chopped the rear window out. i rememberd that steff had a plastic sheet that was held in place with....poppers? thought that was a fairley good comprimise to the whole thing. i now have black snot and are coughing alot, i was whearing a respitator all day so i dont understand this, although i did have a mcdonalds earleyer so that may have something to do with it :lol:
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That phone takes good pictures :lol:
Jay.
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Hmmm, now where did we see picture quality like that before :lol:
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this is looking great mate, i followed your last post on here and only just found this one, having read through you have some great ideas and i am glad that i am not the only one that thinks of stuff like this. altho you seem to be doing the work, were as i am hanging around waiting to buy the steel before i go cut anything off the back, hoping that santa might have some bits of steel for me, hehehe.
well done mate i look forward to seeing the rest of the work. very inspiring.
ps paint looks great, seen a few matt black AMG's in london on my last visit and they look great, again a change form the norm, but the fashion as you say.
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hear you go m8, have alook at this disco, think this is what your planing yours to look like?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=un2C8572w5o
Cheers,
Nick
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Hi Boss
The cooler the inter cooler the better...
try fitting a couple of fans off a water cooled motorcycle(small thin and light) and a water spray (misting nozzle from a garden centre) this will drop the charge temp when moving at low speeds...
and yes green disco with dodgy photos is giving me nightmares... :lol: :lol:
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Just a small update for people, my new job is very demanding and I don't have much time to work on the truck :( however I am hoarding money together quite nicely :D training my winch bitch up as well, she has only just grasped the concept of diffs but she's coming on well :lol: for the past 2 weeks we have gone down to the disco to work but as we are both distracted easily it hasn't been very productive.
I ordered some coilovers....yeah....they came and they were wrong! which has ticked me off. at one point I decided "yes! I am going to fit portals" but i have again decided against it as I'm short on time and the money is better spent else where!
boggers have also jumped up in price as the dollar strengthens against the pound :'( I'm seriously considering simex ET2's but on a plus side I have been making some deals.....and I'm saying no more on that [-X :-$
another good thing though, at work I have access to a full workshop, hydraulic tools, hydraulic parts access to HUGE marine batteries and HUGE copper cable :D
along with other bits and bobs. and [!Expletive Deleted!]! should be moving along soon :)
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ur not wrong on the price off boggers :shock: :shock:
£60 diference each ! when i bought mine i could have have 5 for the price of 4 now
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:lol: sure you still dont want to sell yours to me? :D
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m8 thats going to be one nice truck when finished they offer of help is allways open m8 (but not in th snow lol)
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looking good isnt no.1 on the prioroty list, if it does look good when its done that will just be a nice bonus :D
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media whore
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ahahaha Jake i shot out of the house as soon as our chat ended, got to saffron walden then realised my wallet was in my work trousers went back home then spent the afternoon looking for a shop that sold it(none around here as it happens) gave up and looked at the website......its out friday! couldn't believe it!
i don't sound too much of a goon in it do i? i have not seen or heard anything. :lol:
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I haven't read it yet
We were far to busy today and i never got a chance. I'll have a look tomorrow and report in
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:lol: sure you still dont want to sell yours to me? :D
my trucks running again so my tyres are staying :D
ended up putting a 200 tdi and the auto box that i wanted in it
realy happy with the old girl again :D
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I haven't read it yet
We were far to busy today and i never got a chance. I'll have a look tomorrow and report in
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anyway, dont you "media whore" me boy! whos disco is all over the D44 website now?!
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I haven't read it yet
We were far to busy today and i never got a chance. I'll have a look tomorrow and report in
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anyway, dont you "media whore" me boy! whos disco is all over the D44 website now?!
Erm :-k
i dont know :dance:
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well...............ive finally started making the sliders u sent me the drawings of must have been 6 months ago now ive finally got round to it!
cracking design never felt nething so strong ill post up pics asap, daisy is looking good altho a little neglected
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alford. if jerry got a good snap of it there will be a photo of me sitting the whole disco on one of the sliders at tixover. no damage to report!
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not too much to report, bought some good-ish axle stands and there now under the chassis and i have hauled the axels from under there....if anyone needs some 24 spline axle bits give me a shout got the props too the rear is brand new! and some blue braided brake lines. i really have to get cracking with this but i gots no time :evil:
sourced myself a hydro steering ram cheap, just awaiting for that to arrive from the states.
got all my winch controle box made up too. it is lockable with a key, has a switch to switch from front to rear winch, big emergancy stop/isolator, winch in/winch out all water proof and neat looking.......have no idea if its legal comp wise but even so im quite happy with it......took me about 4 hours to get right and make it work properley :roll: :lol:
suspension is still for sale :lol:
has anyone got/know anyone with an 8274 for sale? it doesnt matter what state its in i just need one to size evereything up. ill then giggle pin it when the time comes so it doesnt even matter if it works or not!
apolagies for the bad photos....i have got a flash new phone and am shocked at how terrible the camera is! should really buy a new camera
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will try to get some better photos up soon
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We don't need pics of the old stuff comming out dude .. [-X
we need pics of the new stuff going in.......... :twisted: :twisted: :dance:
PS I've just posted pics of your bobtail violation kit in the new members area :lol: :lol:
I think it's quite accurate :twisted:
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well aware of your bloody perception of my bobtail violation kit! get it right lee my axe is bigger :evil:
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stop bragging :lol: :lol:
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how do , getting on with it again i see
whats the plan with the axles now ?
still going portals?
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still going down the portal route, found a bloke that sells them all fabbed up, painted and with the disk conversion for 3500 euros which is pretty cushty. might see how much i can get them for without the disks and the brackets and see how much they drop.
there are also a few alternatives that will be available in the next few months but i am sworn to secracy :police:
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that aint to bad , if there ready to bolt on even beter , iv been building for the last few weeks and im still not finshed !
not sure if the disks are needed , depends what u want to do with the truck i supose
if its fast off road then there needed
thing is trucks were drum brakes for a long time , i had a 18t daf on a 94 reg and that was drum braked , if drums can haul up 18t loaded im sure if there set up right they will stop a disco
hope to have mine up and running in the next few weeks so shall let u know what drum brakes are like
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mruwhahahahahahah....
mruwahahahahhahahahhahhahahahaha..........
mruwhahahahah hah haha hahaha hahahhah hah ha ha ha ha ha......
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Have you moved to a workshop built inside a volcano?
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bloody could have been a volcano today!
ive been busy! :twisted:
rudeley awoken by my father demanding to know why there was a pallet on the driveway with my name on it.
opend it and diddnt know weather or not anything was in there....dug around a little and found something! :D
jake! was this an april fools joke or is this how you always pack them????
what the bloody hell......
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nearley killed me to do this :(
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im going to trim the ends of the chassis rails to match the front face of the trayback finisher, should make it fit a little further back :D
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still not quite right, but ill sort it out and weld it next time
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once again devon4x4 have out done themselves, if anyone is creating "things" or making traybacks you must have a good look at these! design/shape is perfect and once again the quality of the product is second to none! defenatley one going on the back of the disco!
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Wow Thats Some Packing Lol.
So Are You Traybacking The Back Or Leaving the Body?
Jay.
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dont do fashion....it will stay a truck.
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how do bud
thought u had given up with the build , not seen much goin on :lol:
nice to see more progress :afro:
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im keeping quiet about a few things 8-[
the trayback finisher was so awsome i had to show you all!
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keeping quiet on us all hey !!!!!
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might be, what of it! ;)
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now play nice :lol: :lol:
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AnyThing New??
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sounds smart so far. keep it up!
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no, nothing, sitting on my arse all day watching jeremy kyle :(
arms has a cast on it and work refuses to let me back untill i have the glas fibre one on..... dont even know if they want me back then.
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Cmon Boss Get this disco finished :lol:
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at the moment im making sliders.
money from that will pay for a new good welder and work will commense once more. there will be a tec article reguarding suspension conponents soon as im looking at diversing into the world of flex. again when moola comes my way ill be getting a tube bender so the tube work will be done and ill be half way there.
im taking my time more this time around and ill be better off for it!
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What sort of suspension conponents ?
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im not sure where ill put it but i will be making up a 1:1 replica of a LR chassis and clear up some of the myths that are floating around about flex.
also maby showcase something i may or mayhave not been working on ;)
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So When the disco is finished Are you going to be doing stuff like howlin wolf Or more extreme Stuff like ladoga?
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plan with this one is ladoga but me and my dad are thinking of doing the rainforest challenge before i go to russia
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plan with this one is ladoga but me and my dad are thinking of doing the rainforest challenge before i go to russia
That Should Be Fun then
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sounds smart! :afro:
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plan with this one is Ladoga but me and my dad are thinking of doing the rainforest challenge before i go to Russia
Another reason to stay off the bmx :lol:
you won't want an avoidable injury to stop you doing that.... ;)
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plan with this one is ladoga but me and my dad are thinking of doing the rainforest challenge before i go to russia
i would get it built & do some Uk events before even considering sticking it in a container to go to malaysia, hell i would do that even before submitting an entry to ladoga
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this one will not be going to malaysia, my dads D2 will be/ might be at the moment were just thinking out loud but i know the rainforest challenge is something he really wants to do.
and yes the disco will have the minimum ammount of work done to it to allow me into class 3. just to see how it works/if it works. i know the awdc rules are chanding/have changed too, i will have to give them a look. there are still alot of events in the uk that i would love to do.
lee, the BMX is cheaper than going to the gym.....for that reason alone i wont be staying off it.
and the clicky clicky sound of my cassete hub really annoys my nabough...which is good becasue hes a dick!
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ok, i will give you an update (if your all still interested) if you can succsessfully identify this
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i know what it is....but you ahve got to try and guess what its from :lol: ....its worth it :D
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Some sort of locking diff component? It's obviously a drivetrain part as it has splines. I would guess that the teeth on top of it engage with a similar component to lock the diff, with the actuator resting in the groove around the part to slide it?
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warm........your 100% right in what your saying ....but im incredably pleased with what i have done,
and your going to have to keep guessing
araghhh i cant be arsed to play this game anymore! as of 2:00 yesterday i became the owner of a pare of unimog 404 portal axles, difflocks intact, evereything in full working order and the offset swaped on the front axle. im not saying how much i payed but it was under the cost of 2 ARBs!
unfortunatley i have no photos becasue i was in such a rush to ge tthe axles(before anyone else did) as i had to return to my house in essex earley. piccies up sunday :D
there are now 4 axles sitting in my garage if anyone wants some landrover 24spline axle parts or a full 24 spline axle cheap let me know and ill put your name on them.
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some photos of the axles in there previous home
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Cool
:D
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a good day :D
settled on a few ideas, im not going to be running coilovers like i threatend mainly becasue im trying to cut costs so i can go out and play sooner :D
to fit the tyres i want im going to have to extend the wheelbase by about 4" not ideal but its either that or cutting my foot wells up and moving the pedals around which isnt something i would like to do really :|
rear suspension links will remain the same as the landrover ones, ie A-frame and trailing arms but might make something simmilar to the gigglepin arms as they fit flush to the chassis as i bent both landrover trailing arms, front will be either 3-link and panhard rod or 4-link with panhard rod.....still undecided, guess it will depend on how many johnny joints i can get hold of.
steering will probibly be done with the landrover PAS box with out the pitman arm and i will just plumb in hoses for a hydro ram, i ahve the drag link from the mog so i can fit a 1 way ram to that. (unless i can sell the pas box, how much are 2nd hand ones worth?)
the landrover axles are taking up space in my garage if anyone wants them there £100 for the pare with dif guards and a full pollybush kit need a little TLC but can be fixed up they would be ideal for anyone with a project or some one with 12 spline axles wanting to upgrade to 24. pm me
diff clearance with 33" simex jungle trekker is 16" it was straight but the tyre moved when i took the photo :lol:
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lr shaft at the top mog at the bottom
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lr diff and mog diff
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grinded about 30 years of crud off of the axle case and primed and sprayed it. probibly not the final colour, there were splats of green left from the origional paint and i think that would look cool.
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not sure if you can see it in the pic but that arm is bent at thenut end not much but noticable when you hold it
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new plan is move the standard springs inward so they mount under the chassis, that way i get to extend my wheelbase and get a little lift
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mogs are wide! really wide! hahahaha thats with out the portal box on there aswellgoing to need wheels with a bit of an inset!
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still not sure weather i should move that back more. ddont really want to chop toomuch more of the tray away but dont want to chop too many of the brackets off!
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we like it when there is a day of progress like this learnt alot andwalked away with no scuffed knuckles :D would appreciate some feed back on the whole thing.
ta
boss
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Axle's Are looking Gd
:O They are wide
When you posted pics of it with no axles on i thought omg what is he doing, but now youve got mog axle's to go on its going to be a BEAST!
Do you reckon you can have this finished this side of christmas :lol:
Are you moving the rad to the back?
Jay.
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it will be done this side o crimbo if i dont run into any problems and the rad will be in the back yes but i am un sure of the configuration. dont know weather to have it right in the back begind the tank...or i can have it infront of the tank or i can have it in the cab(boxed up) and have air channels comming from each side of the body work, but that mught just be a mud trap,. dont sopose it will mate too much difference really, i have that monster kenlowe. i dont really want it up high as i am not running a rear window and if pipes burst the i will be f***** also im avoiding up high weight....so much so that the roof is being lowerd between 1-2" and made from glas fibre. i was playing with it before i broke my hand and its not nice to work with and i was getting no where so my step dad will be doing that.......he makes it look sickeningly easey :evil:
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good to see things are on the move again bud
always good when u have a day that u get lots done :D
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Top notch mate that is going to be one un-stopable truck!! :clap:
Have just been told i can use my landy as my college project project maybe some portals courtesy of the college would go down nicely :twisted:
But keep up the good work mate :D
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cheers mate.
if you look on lr4x4 there is the thread for jens car called george which is a 2a with volvo portals on it....looks niiiiiiice :D
if you can wangle free portals, do it! but remember they get hot, there noisey and dont work on side slopes :roll: ( :lol:)
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whats new this is a landrover were talking about :lol:
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ah its all good mate there fine :D
violated the winch tray some more yesterday moved the laser cut pieces forward so i get more surface area to weld on. was going to do the same to the inside but i think ill drill the holes instead.
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took the power steering box off too so thats up for grabs if any one needs one
went over to the yanks house to see whats goung on. the jeep is getting big! and its got cardbord wheels!
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DOES ANY ONE KNOW IF PORTAL ROVER ARE STILL IN BUSINESS????!?!?!?!?!?!?
im now going over to overland to get the drim offof the portal box as i dont have a screw driver big enough!
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cardboard wheels wont be much good in the rain!lol!!! :clap:
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i know! stooopid americans!
was going to ge the winch tray back on today but the portal box put up a fight! whos idea was it to rivvet the damn back plate to the drum! got it off though. with the drums, the pistons the shoes ant other assorted crap that came off i saved and weighed.......25.3kg! damn holmes!
graham at overland really showed me up with this, i was trying all sorts to get the outer plate off...5 minuites with him and it was off!
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anyone need unimog brake stuff....come see me! :lol:
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i have size 10 feet just to give you some perspective of the side
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considering there 40 years old, give or take a few, there not too bad on the inside! i was expecting mayonaise!
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these little blighters took ages to get out! there the pins that hold in thebrake shoes and they just diddnt want to come out.
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they look well shiny for their age!!good stuff! :drool:
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urgahhhhhhh!
bloody heat! had to cut the welding session in favor of a cold shower! then back home.
front tray violation is compleete and in place. just needs welding. the job was only soposed to take an hour or two but took ages.
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found a bloke in the states that can machine up new flanges for me so i can go back to landrover wheels and most importantly LR brakes. not
t paying $180 for new chevy or ford disks!
jez is in russia and currently 1st in proto......and i was bored so i made this
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also......
should i keep updating this? just seems that not to many are taking an interest so would i be better to horde pics and do a mass update, or leave it alone.
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keep updating when you can with pics, as im very interested and im sure others are even though were not posting
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You don't need to keep us updated on every part, but I for one find this an interesting build so don't just go quiet about it.
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good to see your progress bud , keep on with the updates
i wonder if people are interested when i post about my build , i think theres only a few people on hear that build stuff like this and others cant realy help to much ( not having a dig)
sites like pirate , lr4x4, hofs ect are where all the pro builders seem to be
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looking good boss :dance:
wish i had the skills and motivation that you do, my rangie would be fixed and on the road, and the trailer would be built aswell :doh: :oops:
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Yea keep up with the updates!! Hopefully muppets like me can get some cool ideas :D
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not really an update, im just really happy with the weld quality i got from my sealy welder. 15mins of TLC did it the world of good.....only problem is i only get 6mins @150amps :'( trying to buy a migatronic but miganglia are messing me around abit(alot :evil:) might just get a TIG
welding quality isnt great at the moment, havnt welded properley in aaaages! also the 3/4 length cast on my arm doesnt help :lol:
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really not sure on how to plate the top up though. not sure weather i should just box it in and put a square plate at the back or slope it down to make it look an integral part of the chassis....but that would take a little more work.
any thoughts?
any way im pleased with the welds(bit of a make or brake moment) looks better that the welds on the 90 trayback in lrm atleast
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that does sound good dude slope it down to make it look like part of the chassis just 1 of those lil touches that make all the difference . . .
and then put a flat plate over the top to cover it all up should look pukka dude
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it doesnt need to be cut or sloped really. the chassis sort of slopes down after the spring seats so i can use the loooooooooong plate supplied with the mount plonk it on top of the welded bits and it will eventially meet the chassis i jsut need to cut a few more brackets off which i really dont want to do becasue the mounting holes could be handy. ill see what springs to mind tomorow.
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hmmmm well which ever is easier i suppose lol . . .and as u got the loooooooooooong plate may aswell use it lol
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my thoughts exactly :lol:
got a super long piece of 6mm plate too....about 7.5m but only 2" wide :doh:
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lol thats a nice piece of metal there then how much did that set u back or was i aqquiered piece lol . . . but suppose that is the only shame it is only 2" wide hmmmmm
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also......
should i keep updating this? just seems that not to many are taking an interest so would i be better to horde pics and do a mass update, or leave it alone.
Keep going. I find it interesting, and its also good to see how someone else works if you see what I mean. Just out of interest, what amp is your welder, I use a 130 amp one but just killed it so might go bigger.
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should i keep updating this? just seems that not to many are taking an interest so would i be better to horde pics and do a mass update, or leave it alone.
Keep going. I find it interesting, and its also good to see how someone else works if you see what I mean. Just out of interest, what amp is your welder, I use a 130 amp one but just killed it so might go bigger.
thats what im using and sometimes it doesnt seem man enough to weld the metal together . . . might have to get a bigger 1 . . but keep the 130 amp for body welding
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its a 150 amp sealy quite happily welds 6mm plate if you get usedto the welder but only for 6mins :lol:
its more than enough for general modifying im just going a bit ott with welds, bit [!Expletive Deleted!] off with the way the ones on the tray look but i know they penitrated.
it might be up for sale soon if either of you are interested only going to fund my big one...or a TIG :roll:
the 7.5mx6mmx25mm piece of steel cost me £10.80 :D
bought that, 2 lengths(7.5m) of 50x50x3mm box, 4 lengths of 25x25x3mm and a sheet of 2mx1mx1.5mm alli sheet for £130 deliverd! (with the 6mm flat bar)
J.D.
i know what you mean about watching other people work. i have learnt so much from jsut looking and keeping my mouth shut (very old skool college lecturer :lol:). i dont have a problem with posting its jsut that the ammount of time i spend taking photos, uploading them to photobucket and then doing a little write up on here is taking build time away. not many were still posting so thought evereyone had lost interest.....not going to waist build time if no one wants to know about it.
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I've just been doing the same thing - reading and keeping quiet unless I've got something to say that might be useful! :lol:
Seriously, keep going. While I have no intention of hacking most of my bodywork off and fitting Unimog axles this is still interesting stuff, and a lot of the fabrication ideas can be applied to far less extreme vehicles.
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I'm guessing the tray was designed for D44's 110 tray back which IIRC has quite a bit taller chassis rails, to be honest where those holes extend above the chassis looks nasty. Fortunately the number of stress cycles from winching and recovery is relativerly low so fatigue failure shouldn't be an issue. A good weld in the wrong place can be as likely to crack as a bad weld in the right place.
Using what you have, I would probably cut the rear corners off the outer at an angle to follow the profile of the rear slot and match this profile on the inside plates. Then cover over the top with a length of flat and bend the flat to follow the profile cut in the side plates.
Is the exposed cavity between the winch tray and chassis open at the bottom?
If so then just leaving it open at the top is another option.
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The build looks great, i would love to do this to my disco at some point, i have got about half way through doing a pick up to my disco, ie, i have run out of funds but it is driveable now and i have done a few events in it. would love to put tubular steel over the wheel arches to make it kind of a cladded tray back.
Build is looking great, keep the updates comming Boss.
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would love to put tubular steel over the wheel arches to make it kind of a cladded tray back.
watch this space ;)
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its a 150 amp sealy quite happily welds 6mm plate if you get usedto the welder but only for 6mins :lol:
its more than enough for general modifying im just going a bit ott with welds, bit [!Expletive Deleted!] off with the way the ones on the tray look but i know they penitrated.
it might be up for sale soon if either of you are interested only going to fund my big one...or a TIG :roll:
the 7.5mx6mmx25mm piece of steel cost me £10.80 :D
bought that, 2 lengths(7.5m) of 50x50x3mm box, 4 lengths of 25x25x3mm and a sheet of 2mx1mx1.5mm alli sheet for £130 deliverd! (with the 6mm flat bar)
J.D.
i know what you mean about watching other people work. i have learnt so much from jsut looking and keeping my mouth shut (very old skool college lecturer :lol:). i dont have a problem with posting its jsut that the ammount of time i spend taking photos, uploading them to photobucket and then doing a little write up on here is taking build time away. not many were still posting so thought evereyone had lost interest.....not going to waist build time if no one wants to know about it.
Exactly. I don't really get into the serious hacking about, I can do it, its just at the moment I don't have the facilities to do it, not with three trucks of my own in the workshop at the moment. One of which is seriously hacking me off and about to get blown up.
Re the welder - I needed one for later this week so went out this morning and spent £490 on one, and Ive also repaired the 130 lol.
Is it a local place you get the steel from or a website?
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steel will either have been from chorus or ASD metal solutions, cant remember who i used this time....just remember there wasnt much in it.
what welder did you get?
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would love to put tubular steel over the wheel arches to make it kind of a cladded tray back.
watch this space ;)
hmmmmmmm i wonder what someone is doing soon :-k
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your not going tp guess! :ner:
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na i probably wont :-k
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steel will either have been from chorus or ASD metal solutions, cant remember who i used this time....just remember there wasnt much in it.
what welder did you get?
I got one of these - http://www.transtools.co.uk/store/prod_3325/corded-power-tools/welders/sealey-supermig180-professional-mig-welder-180-amp-240v.html
along with a few other bits and pieces.
I get quite a bit from the local scrapyard - they seem to have loads at good prices, and most of it is in good shape.
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your not going tp guess! :ner:
Sweet i am glad that i am not the only one that thought of this, i have seen it on Jeeps, but when mentioned to some of the club members i got mixed reveiws.
Not to hijack the tread, but my idea would be to start at the front chassis and then kind of join to the rock rails, similar to the trial wing style, come off the back of the rock rails and then join to the back chassis. this done on both sides with winch trays filling in the gaps in the middle.
what you think boss? you seem to have a good idea about these things. Or anyone else to that matter.
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yes, that will work.
i personally dont like the look of disco tray backs. it works with defenders and to a certan extent RRCs but discos are curvy and the curvyness needs to be kept in there to make it look right. i was thinking along the lines of what your discribing a trayback wut with body pannels. getting the curve for the wheelarch right with out a radius roller will be HARD and near impossible.
J.D.
is it any good? from the cycle performance of mine i dont think i would buy another sealy.
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Yeah i had thought of that and was thining of tyring to get a bit of bend on the pipe and then pull the body panel in a bit to match up, kind of meet in the middle ground.
cheers for input Boss.
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Boss, I aint used it for a long period of time yet, but it seems to be godo enough for what I need it for. I have access to a 1,000amp, 3 phase welder if I need it, so I don't neet a mahoosive one.
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Any updates mate? :D
Or are you keeping us in the dark again :lol:
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no updates :( i was ooooooot and aboooot this weekend at bircham.......total waist of my time really! absolutly gutted my disco wasnt there. course was so easy that i got the shogun around on "aggressive" road tyres then at then end of it i realised it wasnt even in low ratio! had to physically kick the leaver over, super select my a*** rear locker did help alot i guess but i still dont like them.
on the plus side.....i get my cast off today! and i get to go see the new terminator film and i get to go back to work :D :dance:
should have an update this weekend, if they still dont let me go back to work(got to do alot of physio apparently :roll:) then youll have one sooner :lol:
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thats no good! :lol:
looking forward to the updates mate.
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Congrats on getting the cast off. I shut three of my fingers in the workshop door yesterday, and they have now swelled up to the extent that I struggle to get a welding gauntlet on. I might need to go down the hosipital, which means my deadline for getting Pheonix on the road is going to be hard to meet!
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ah man that sucks! what you go shutting your fingers in places they shouldnt be!
cast is off......my arm is really hairy and skinny and the tan line is so bad it looks like ive tried to fist a cow elbow first and then changed my mind halfway through! :lol:
probibly going to go violate the disco on friday....maby able to pick up my rear axle after however many weeks!
also going to have to lift it up a bit more......maby a foot! need thoughts on this please, is it better to make my own axle stands BIG or to put bits of wood underneath the existing stands? or could even make a stand/frame thing that the centre of the chassis sits on. any sergestions? just sick of crawling around on the floor and welding in positions that involve me having a spark shower.
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i saw some landrover chassis stands at gaydon , cant remember who it was but it was one of the ex military ones they were huuuuuge!
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There's not much left of it now is there ???
just tip it on it's side and prop it against a wall :lol:
I've seen a discovery sat on railway sleepers four high just at the ends of the chassy. but you have cut the rear off your so I don't know how that would work .
old ones are about a £10 each and you can flog them afterwards..
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errrrrrrm.........it wont be possible to prop up the rear of thae chassis for much longer 8-[......maby :lol: depends if i can be botherd to continue with this idea i have :lol:
i was thinking about getting a length o wood from b&q and making a jenga type tower to go under the existing stands, but going higher and not wider is something i dont like the idea of. no idea on where to get railway sleepers from lee, otherwise that wouldnt be a bad idea!
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Builders yards and garden centres have them for raised beds in gardens..
or paving slabs under your stands work well
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recclamation yards and places like that are good for sleepers.
oh and dont uproot the local railway line, apparently thats frowned upon? :-k :shock:
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They tend to be about £15 each. There is a place by me that sells them, but not much good to you I suspect!
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I know it might not be a huge help but on the isle of man we get them from the railway yards, they are 2nd hand and come in at £8 a pot. If you get them from builders mechants they tend to cost a bit more. Might be worth a look at your local rail yard, or at least give them a ring.
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you need to watch out if you get them from a builders merchant as many of them only sell brand new ones wich are about £20 quid each, but they are a lot easier to work with- lighter, easier to cut and they dont leak tar/creasote
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i think were getting a little O/T here.
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i think were getting a little O/T here.
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Thats What i thought
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just shows our appriciation for railway sleepers, hehehehe :P :dance: :clap:
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gorgeous :lol:
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sorry, i just use sleepes everyother day at work and all the toughts in my head tumbled out onto the screen :lol:
so how are you doing with the disco? is it a trayback, gokart or unimog this week? :D
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ah man that sucks! what you go shutting your fingers in places they shouldnt be!
cast is off......my arm is really hairy and skinny and the tan line is so bad it looks like ive tried to fist a cow elbow first and then changed my mind halfway through! :lol:
probibly going to go violate the disco on friday....maby able to pick up my rear axle after however many weeks!
also going to have to lift it up a bit more......maby a foot! need thoughts on this please, is it better to make my own axle stands BIG or to put bits of wood underneath the existing stands? or could even make a stand/frame thing that the centre of the chassis sits on. any sergestions? just sick of crawling around on the floor and welding in positions that involve me having a spark shower.
Not broken, just nicely swollen, and Pheonix has had to wait as the Volvo failed its MOT so need to put new track rod ends and a wheel bearing on it. However, regarding axle stands, go to an agricultural type place anc buy some tractor stands. About £40 for a pair, but 8 tonne rated and extend to about 3 foot tall.
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agri stands! that sounds like a plan!
leaving to get my second axle now....then i got to weld up the exhaust on my astra as the back box decided to detach its self.....sounds pretty good though :lol:
good to hear that your fingers arnt broke mate. and thank you all for your input on things....even if a little ott :lol:
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....even if a little ott :lol:
Thats me all over mate! :D :D
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update, a little later than planned due to unorganizeation and a lack of communication between 4 parties. axle arrived in a truck at my workshop yesterday took 3 of us to lift it out and put it in there. jj and his mate left and i was left to turn the damn thing over ITS HEAVY! more weight shedding is needed! alot more!
diff clearance is aprox 1 coke can high with no tyres :D
little dirty, at the weekend it will recive a good going over with a flap disk.
hubs are smooth as ever, diff is fine difflock not seized, i assure you its only the exterior that is shabby ;)
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standard removal procedure
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i really need to tidy up! :lol:
but nowi have things to put on, the mess can be banished :D
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:D
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diff clearance is aprox 1 coke can high with no tyres :D
Is that a metric or imperial Coke can?
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sweet dude looks good . . . nice load of ground clearance there . . .
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diff clearance is aprox 1 coke can high with no tyres :D
Is that a metric or imperial Coke can?
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off of the top of my head i belive it was a full fat coke can......none of this multipack business :lol:
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looking good:D
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looking good bud
are the axles standard mog width ? are u gona get into cutting them down ect or just have a realy wide truck ?
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its going to be wide :lol: probably going to get wheels with little or a negative offset, so its not going to get too much wider and itll protect the portal boxes. then again nothing is set in stone.
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its going to be wide :lol: probably going to get wheels with little or a negative offset, so its not going to get too much wider and itll protect the portal boxes. then again nothing is set in stone.
thats the problem with mogs
iv got very little offset with my rims on the volvos and iv managed to keep it as near to landy width :D
a mate has mog axles on a custom build , the axles where cut down and custom shafts made up
gets the width back down but is mega bucks
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yes, and if a shaft brakes hes in trouble.
big with isnt always a bad thing, it spreads the weight a little more. but i wont be able to fit anywhere :(
nevermind ill drive over it :lol: :twisted:
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lol thats logicall thinking boss ha ha if in doubt drive over it ha ha . . . wouldnt normal disco steel wheels or alloys work to reduce the offset . .
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they would work yes, but i need stronger wheels than that, with beadlocks. and the mog has 6 studs with a different pcd......may be sorting that out soon though.
either going to go to stazworks or somewhere like BTF, mach5 have a website? i know there is such a thing as a mach6....but the only ones i have seen are 20" and look gay.
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oh rite cool cool well was just a suggestion but didnt realise the mog axles wer 6 stud my bad lol . . . i think ill stick to my normal axles for now ha ha seems like alot of work for me and ill prob mess it up ha ha . . but good going dude ur gettin on good with that :clap:
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yes, and if a shaft brakes hes in trouble.
big with isnt always a bad thing, it spreads the weight a little more. but i wont be able to fit anywhere :(
nevermind ill drive over it :lol: :twisted:
the extra width will make it less likely to roll too :D
when i put the 10x15 rims with my boggers on the disco axles i had the prob with not fitting anywhere
even blew tyres off the rims trying to fit down a track that any normal landy fits down :doh: bead locks did sort this tho
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yeah, its not going to be used for laining or anything like that, just comp use.
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You sorted any tyres yet?
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not got tyres yet. need to sort things out first...like brakes and pinion conversions.....actually getting the axles under the truck.
rear shouldnt be to difficult as im using the stock landrover set up(but not with the stock arms :lol:)
might get A tyre and A wheel from my prefered stockist just so i can get an idea on size.
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oh and got whats left of the drum brakes off today. lots of mayonaise on the rear so better breathers are definatly needed! no pics(unless you want camera phone pics :->) given it a going over with a wire brush too. tomororw there will be pics of a hopefully 100% clean axle.
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i would get what tyres u are goin to use , so u can build around them
will give u the hight from axle to floor then from that u can work out the hight the body will sit at , are u going coilover or landy setup ?
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dont get me started :roll:
pressure washer wasnt working so could only get it as clean as the wire brush would let me with out scratching stuff too much.
hammer wins all. but axle beats me as weight to strength ratio isnt in my favor. there fore it is not in line. but this matters not as there is no welding being done at the moment! :D
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will get round to that eventually :roll:
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looking good!
didnt realise how much beefier those axles wer compared to the standard lr units!
I likes that rear bumper would look nice on the back of mine :twisted:
keep it up :clap:
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rear is ugly as sin though. thinking of going 4 wheel steer just to get the rear one looking sort of presentable. but thats lots o work and i cant ne be arsed!
rear bumper is a concoction of D44 parts and lots of trial and errors, can make one for you if you want one on the back of your series.
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na boss the rear looks nice . . . making me think more about cutting mine up more :-k either pick up or dakar style lol . . . but those mog axles are rather wide aint they good job you aint using it down lanes cuz u wont fit ha ha :doh: 4 wheel steer does sound a very very complicated ha ha
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not sure what this dakar style is but pick ups work well. but there more of an offroad thing as the tank normally resides in the truck bed makeing it usless for anything else. but you could probbily do it to yours in a weekend if you get a shuffle on. all you would need is a length of box and some steel sheet.....pm sent.
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making me think more about cutting mine up more :-k either pick up
Do it, Pick up it :D
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sounds like a plan but being a studenty type i have no dosh haha
but il keep it in mind :twisted:
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hmmmmmmmm its tempting to . . yea suppose it would only take a weekend to do . . . but ill leave it for now as got an event to do in 2 weeks time and still gota sort the brakes out lol . . . once i made my mind up ill let u guys know and boss ill pop up for a weekend hav ea cutting frenzy ha ha
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sounds like a plan but being a studenty type i have no dosh haha
but il keep it in mind :twisted:
Studnet loan :idea: :twisted:
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i can only get those for degree's, not back bumpers :( either that or tell them i am intending to study at the Boss school of fabrication? :lol:
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i lolled :lol:
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:lol:
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Hey boss good to see you making progress would toyota wheels sort you out
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hi mate, i dont think they will. the toyotas have a tighter stud pattern IIRC. seriously considering geting the hubs machined so i can have landrover wheels fitted.
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An Update Please :)
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Any updates mate? :D
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got a couple of not very relevant photos, my welder has packed up so debating what to do next.
need a new welder, if i get a TIG then the body will be sold and ill make a buggy type thing but migs are cheaper and alot cheaper to run! :lol:
also chasing people up about prices. you say you want something, they say they got it but they no want to give you the price :huh: what the bloody hell is up with that! what with the economy the way it is i would have thought that businesses would be trying to give me stuff! :roll:
BUT 4 way steer is definatly a possibility.....never intended to go 4 steer but i dont like the......things on the rear axles........mog stuff is the same front and rear, so if i got some steering knuckles and some shafts then its a bolt on job. but the "bits" that take the place of the knuckle on the rear axle are ugly and make it look a bit of an abortion, im not to bothered on how it looks but that does bother me :lol:
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4 wheels steer sounds awsome!
I got a 130 amp mig for £120 on fleebay, but would you need summat more heavy duty?
Cant remember which site it was though :-k
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oh dear boss that aint good blowing a your welder up lol . . .
but like your ambistion of 4 wheel steer hope it works out dude . . . .
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What stops you making a buggy with a MIG?
The one thing I will say though is it seems like this vehicle may never be finished and just when it looks like its nearing completion it gets chopped up again.
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its like a disease . . once that 1st cut is made thats it u wana keep going ha ha . . ive caught the disease aswell . . . oh but its fun :clap: :dance:
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I do have a simple solution to stop me getting too carried away modding land rovers.... Its called building a Locost sports car at the same time :lol: 4.5 years and counting since I started and the engine still hasn't run since I took the orgional escort for a thrash round the farm. I suppose the off roadong is a kind of sebatical.
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suppose yea if you got summut else to build then the offroader cuttin can wait lol
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because i like to tig weld and would look for any excuse to do it :lol:
yeah.....think how i feel! going to get the tube work sorted and then the axles and then re do crap as and when i wan or need.
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Any excuse :-k
How about "because a bigger boy told you to do it" :lol:
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any updates? :D
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no updates:(
saving money up for various things and had to pay out for various bills and such(bloody female ](*,)). so the 90 mile round trip(not including random trips to tescos, boc or elsewhere) costs a fare bit in petrol.
rinced overtime this week.......probibly did around 65-70 hours so pay packet should be nice and heavy next week. :grin:
but then again wont be going over there next week again to save money. week after i should be able to go mental and have some nice shiny things acomin :wink:
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fair shout dude sounds like a good plan . . . hmmmmm shiny things . . . guna enlighten us on your shiny pieces :-k lol
thats a fair travel to work on it dude :doh:
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you are correct it is a fare travel. BUT if/when i get it sitting back on axles it might move in to the yard at work! plenty of space around the barn (where we keep the 45m truck mounts) and there is a huge not quite fully equipped workshop but there is space and a propper work area. and its a 30mile round trip.
as for the shiny things.....im not sure, i can go around it a few ways. buy tools/materials and get on with fab or buy hardwhare and get stuff working.....ie disk brakes for the 404s! probibly go see sue at boc and try and chat her up enough to do me a deal on a lincoln or a parweld tig :grin:
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now that sounds like a good workshop to have and 1/3 the distance cant complain at that lol
oh desicions desicions desicions ayyy well its really down to wat u wana get down 1st i suppose . . . . now now boss calm down go gentle on sue . . . . work your magic gently to get a good deal :dance: :dance:
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no :lol: she will eat me alive if i dont show her whos boss(no pun intended)
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shiny bits :D will be god to see the truck taking form again
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no :lol: she will eat me alive if i dont show her whos boss(no pun intended)
well if you put it that way go in and put ur foot down :lol: :lol: :lol:
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stop jibbajabbing fool n get it finished
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mate, i have a filing cabenet full of excuses as to why im not done. :lol:
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One of these excuses must have been time spent buy a filing cabenet and filing all the other exuses in to it :lol:
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Any updates on the project Boss, not heard anything for a while, hows she going?
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the build should get moving again soon ish
the dilleo was i was going to wait for a new shiney spidertrax-esq axle casing and obviously i diddnt want to start welding tabs onto axle casings that i wasnt going to use.......BUT ive been waiting patiently and nothings happening, no phone calls, no email, nothing. so im going to weld standard LR bracketry to the MOG axle tubes, then when the A.R.T. axles become avalable ill switch over to 3 link with them. theni have some axle tubes to sell on pre converted for landrovers.
the main reason for me wanting these axle casings is that there probibly about 10KG lighter, each. could probibly gain an extra 3" diff clearance too becasue the mog axles have HUGE diffs! still calling around for brakes, the guy who is making the axle tubes is also making disk conversions which again will be very very nice but there not done yet :(
i will be taking the transit truck over to my work shop next week as i have "aquired" about 20 sq ft of 5mm thick black plastic so i can start on door cards and wheel arches :D and might be bringing the mog axle casings home to fab up the tabs......although YRM have started making weld on brackets......but am i prepared to spend £50 per axle on bracketry that looks like a pigion has [!Expletive Deleted!] on it? :lol:
im not keeping you guys in the dark and im not moving the build to another forum, this build was here from day1 and its not going to end its just literally nothing has happend.
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whayhey sounds good, looking forward to seeing the project going again :thumbup:
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Glad to hear that it is still going on mate, i never thought that lack of ground clearance issues and mog axles would ever have been used in the same sentence.
I have always wanted to try this but not in current funds bracket, one of the guys in our club has had thoughts of using 303 axles, they seem to be lighter but dont know much more about the pros and cons of any of the portals.
Look forward to seeing more pics as you get stuff done.
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boss' rough guied to portals(from memory so dont quote me)
mog 404s
pros-
super strong
excelant build quality
evereything is interchaingable, ie axle casings are the same, the steering knuckles can be swapped from front to back, portal boxes are exactly the same
simple
cheap, between £200-1000 for an old set or £1500-3000 for a brand spanking new set
cons-
heavy, wet weight is between 480-550 kgs
width
diff offset hasto be chandes on the front axle
pinion conversions needed
disk brake conversion needed
Volvo C303
pros-
light, wet weight is something like 280-320kgs
narrower than mogs
landrover props bolt straight on(as there a Dana axle)
cons-
cost, cheapest set ive seen is £2000 and the most expencive was 8k
parts are becoming harder to get hold of everey day
no disk brakes
vaccume opperated difflock, maby just me but i find that a really over engineered way to operate a difflock!
there is another breed of portal made by simca, they are found on french troop transporters.......less said about them the better really ive seen a few builds with them and they look like a total nightmare!.......and there french!
however, if your willing to [throw it] about with them then you can get a set for next to nothing.
all in all, if you want to save money buy mogs, if you want to save weight buy volvos. but the mogs are alot stronger but does that justify the extra weight?
and i dont think i said a lack of diff clearance on the mog axles, i just think that the germans got a little lazy when it came to refining the axle casings when they realised they had cracked the portal idea :lol:
also trying to shed some weight off of them would like the truck to stay under 2000kgs which is a bit of an ask but i think its achiveable!
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that is a great bit of info about the portals. If and when i get portals it will prob be mog axels due to price. I think i actually know of someone that has a few mogs in there garden so might have to make freinds with them.
I am well gutted, a few years back someone offered me a set of maxi drive porteled and lockered axles for a good price, but not knowing at that time what they were offering me i declined, what a fool, grrrr.
Ahh well cheers for the advice boss.
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some one told me that a landrover maxi drive portal axle set cost 10k :shocked:
portaltek have made/are making a bolt on portal box for landrovers but there 3k for EACH rear box and 4k for EACH front box
there are also 2 other companys i know of that are playing around with the idea but it wont cost to much money but when i asked them about it they diddnt want to let on too much and they also diddnt want me to say who :( probily get it right if you made an educated guess lol
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that has made me even more gutted, he only wanted 2k for both axles. Grrrr. Asked him a while back if he still had them and suppisingly someone had snapped his hand off. Dam shame i didnt know how good they were then. Ah well mogs i think it shall be after making the rest of the disco a bit better, ie roll cage and winches. After doing my first series of challenge events i am well pleased with how the pic up performed. To be honest my wife must hate you as it was reading this topic that finaly made me get round to doing it, cheers mate.
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not as much done as i hoped. my nan had a spell in hospital last week and my girlfriend wanted to go see her(shes ok now) so i couldnt spend alot of time on the truck......any time really, just managed to drop the first jumbo schute off pick up my last portal box from the yanks place and got my dad to get the other portal box that i had dropped off to overland to get the hub nut off. its off and its not a nut!(photos to follow)
i have a choice now, and would appreciate some advice/pointers on it.
the brake conversion i mentioned involved me removing the old unimog hubs and replacing them with a new hubs machined up to the landrover PCD....obviously alot of monies but im thinking ofcutting the hub flange off, machining the hub canter(splined bit) down and machining up a new flange with the LR stud pattern and welding that on. definatly cheaper and more indepth, and i could say "I did that" but is the "Idid that" factor getting in the way of the "do it properly first time" factor???
any thoughts?
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had to take some sneaky photos at work :lol:
anyone who has spoken to me at work will know what its like when the boss is around.
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! :D
not muchly done really. lots of measuring and a little bit of chopping. quite annoying really, crossed the border into norfolk at about 7:30 this morning, left my dads house at about 10:30 after "catching up" then went off to the yanks place to get my short shaft and CV, he is storming ahead with the jeep! by the time i left there it was 12:30 ish so after driving back to the disco and having lunch i got about 4 hours to do stuff....... :lol:
so like i say, lots of measuring and i assembled the front axle bar the diff (this thing is going to be wide!) thinking that ill machine the mog hub down and weld on a new flange, jj has done this and it seems like a pretty sound way of doing it. going to track me down a nice brake disk and MAKE it fit too.
took me along time to get that down there!
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thats a propper half shaft! there is a £2 coin there so you can get an idea
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winch goodies
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more trimmings
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and provided all goes well i should have some 51" coilovers before 2010 :D :D :D :D
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whayey starting to take shape again :D
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cheers mate,yeah.....its sort of coming together. next time i go down there ill make frames up to re skinn the floor and wheelarches. the question is should i use the plastic stuff i got from work or should i go buy some alli sheet?
after looking at the yanks rig ill be using a rear 4 link. looks fairly easey to set up (after you do all the maths) ill look at doing it to the front aswell but i may have issues when it comes to clearance between the upper triangulated links, the huge mog diff and the sump.
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alli sheet, chequer plate heaven? :lol:
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Use the plastic - lighter, won't need painting, and more importantly you already have it so it's not going to take money away from the rest of the build. I'd also rather be surrounded by plastic than metal in cold weather! :lol:
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lawlz
is this still not finished???
About to start another build o mine
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Hi Glad you sent me this thread those portal axles are awsome they make the standard one look very puny.
This is one hell off a build,
I had one hell of an accident 3 yrs ago and havnt been able to work. my 4x4 i had to sell as i couldnt drive for 2/12 yrs.
Its been doing my head but im getting back to it now and want to make a better off roader than the one i sold.
This is very inspiring for me so WHAT is the UPDATE WHERE ARE WE now.
Dont tell me your in russia :lol:
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well if russia is still going to happen i got to get a shuffle on becasue im running out of time :?
there was a JD2 waiting for me but i cancelled that order as i went over there last saturday to do some tidying and a little welding and remembered how irritating my welder can be. so im looking at welders again.
apart from that i havnt really done too much to it. cant make my mind up if i should just go back to the standard landrover controle arms or to carry on with the alternate link idea. if i did stick with the landrover stuff it would cut a hell of a lot of time off. but i may have castor issues with the front :-.
there may be something coming in the post soon aswell :D
we shall see
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my son is a foreman coded welder working at the mo in Corus ill ask him where is the best cheapest etc stick or mig i cant weld as good as him so its a mig for me.
just a thought if you did go mig you can always change the wire for ally if you needed to, they say ally welding is v difficult but i think its because not many peps use it with correct settings its no more difficult than steel and some migs can go tig as well but i wont bore you further.
Might it be worth trying to leave the welding so it can all be done in one go then hire a welder for say a weekend
I'm showing my ignorance here but what is a JD2.
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a JD2 (JD squared) is a tube bender, it is probibly one of the better ones for the price.
you aint cool unless you got one of dem :afro:
:lol:
http://www.jd2.com/shop/
figuring itll be better if i get it rolling before i start with a cage
YRM arnt trading again untill the 15th so ill be putting an order of some tabs in then. would do it now but i want to avoid confusion and chasing people up if the order gets lost or forgotten(like last time with another orange comapny :roll:)
if you could have a word with your son for me that would be greatly appreciated :afro:
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judging by the state of a lot of the so called cages i see around my area the peps making them are definitely not using the JD2 most have rather big flats on the outside bends. and a 4' disc cutter to make the cut outs. looks cool their life in their hands oh and plenty of blobby welds covered up with the same colour paint as the vehicle. scrutineering doh don't think so.
I didn't recognise the make bender as i use the one in my bro in-law fab shop its old but good and a bit of an animal.
Seeing my son tonight update tomorrow
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Spoke to son he tell me stick welders either work or not no in between so before you buy a new one check these out.
The plug connections / the wire itself not burnt or damaged with items fallen on it / earth connection where it goes into clamp /good earth on body clean etc .
And last but most important where do you keep the welding rods in the garage? is it damp rods do not like getting damp and need to dry out so if you have some that are dryer than others it will effect the performance the lecky charge will normally dry these out but if someone is not v/ experienced it will effect . So bring some home with you and put on top of radiator at home for a couple of hours before you use them.
On pucker jobs some types of rods are kept in an welders oven to stop moisture ingress to alleviate this prob.
If no joy let me know.
Don't forget the likes of Machine mart etc sell hobby welders so don't expect the welder to work for hour after hour as they over heat
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its all mig welded, not arc. All the reels of spare wire are kept in a wood cabenet with a bag of sillicone crystals in it. Im after a new MIG, looking at a newer sealy, really dont want to as the current sealy i have doesnt have the balls to do anything thicker than 3mm without alot of prep. Might dig into the savings and get the lincoln or a migatronic. Sorry if ive caused any confusion there.
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yo!
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giving this one a try :D
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That will do the job then nice and shine too. you wont be using the top of that as a shelf then.
You wont be sorry it will pay for itself it looks a beaut. Top tip shop around for best prices for steel if you tell them your starting your own biz they usually give you discount, hope they give you wire and or the new reactor light welding mask? or gas.
with the deal
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Had another look at it it looks a nice industrial jobby
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it came with a benzil torch....no idea but seems pretty good. a regulator, half a spool of 06 wire, and all the other assiciated crap such as gas lead, earth clamp, wheels ect. ill have a buzz with it tomorow and let you know the verdict
as for price the sealy catolog says around 1k i payed £420
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keep the inside of the torch clean from splatter where the wire comes out. i dont want to teach grany to suck eggs etc but dont forget after you have welded whatever the wire will be burnt for a couple of inches cut it off with wire cutter.
Looks like a good deal dont forget to use proper gloves cancer in the hands isnt nice
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yaaaaaay
there may be progress ahead
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hopefully mikey yes. ;)
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the verdict is.....its pretty good!
the wire feed on it is SO smooth! torch is comfy, the wire feed dial is proportional to the power settings
diddnt get much of a chance to have a buzz with it but what i did do i was happy with
be kind, im rusty as hell with a mig :lol:
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swish swish
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Looks a tidy enough weld to me, I've seen worse on commercial products!
Does the JD Squared tube bender come with the operator shown on the homepage? She's missing PPE but I'm sure I can lend her a pair of goggles and a rubber band to keep her hair back :lol: :lol:
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Good weld they say should look like a row of sixpences laid outclose to one another showing my age now yes i can remember them. any way yours look like the afore mentioned sixpences and it looks like good peneteration to me!! whoops wrong site.
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boo!
im pretty sure that the female doesnt come with the JD2 but if she did i would probibly throw it away when she came! :lol: :lol: :lol:
fair bit done today!
.....liiike.........
rear axle is half glued on! :D
i orderd some link tabs from YRM and ima waiting on a a-frame bracket from them.......which they have never made before! :roll:
also picked up some 37"ish tyres for mock up. DIFF clearance with said tyres is 15" :D
progress!
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bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzz
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thatll hold....i sopose :roll:
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aha!
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that was £17 with another 4 markers and some magnetic things!
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anyone want rhis thing?
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couldnt resist lol
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unfortunatly i cant get it on the back wheels like i wanted to at the moment......i dont have enought clearance :( need some more jacks to jimmy it all about :lol:
thats all for now
boss
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now we'r making progress those brackets wont come of in a hurry.
Just got back from seeing a couple of discos for sale rust worm everywhere they should have been weighed in for scrap cant find agood one or rangy
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welded at 200amps.......so im hoping not :lol:
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posting on behalf of boss as he cant get his photobucket to work lol
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looking good bud , glad your getting some time on the truck :D
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should be called hate bucket. :?
cheers for that mike.
even witt the standard springs on im going to haveto either get the smallest wheels i can find or take my garage door off to get it out! even then ill be pushing it!
might be putting orders in tomorow.
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no worries dude its cool . .
or you could make a little trolley to go under each axe to hold it just up enough so it aint scraping the floor but enough clearance for the roof ?? :-k
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or............................chop chop :lol:
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or just leave the tyres down a few pounds or lots of pounds
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yeah.......that wont work.
the back beads are off on both of those tyres and there happily supporting a 200kg axle :lol:
even if i take the tyres off totally im pretty sure ill strugle with the 20" rims.
buzz buzz buzz tomorow :afro:
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Well its obvious to me if you cant go through got to go down call goes out for the paddy skate board and the HILTI dig 2 trenches in the floor axle width apart 10 inches deep remove truck from garage refill trenches wif chipping so you can drive a car in and if you ever have to work on truck again just dig the chippings back out sorted guvnor.
youll be asking me next what a paddy skate board is wont you :-k
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whats a paddy skate board?
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large two stroke disc cutter they use them to cut thro tarmacadam, paving slabs etc you have see them at road works or building sites 20 inch diamond encrusted blade goes thro just about any thing in this part of the world they call them paddy skate boards as they are usually used on road works you have to put your foot on them to start it while you pull the startcord and as many of the workers are Irish hence paddy skate board
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ah im with you, used one a fair few times myself, good name for it :D
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we seem to have to keep ourselves amused whilst boss is working so here is the next one.
starter for ten no conferring
fetch the hot spanner is the call down here what /who is the hot spanner top tip Halfords do not sell them even in their professional range
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I refer to the Hot Spanner as the Blue Spanner :lol:
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well done thats a good one still another ten points going spare what is the ZIP gun then and no its nothing to do with getting a prostitutes jeans off
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any update boss whats the latest
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yeah, i done stuff. but you carry on with your workshop slang ;)
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no takers on the zip gun not going to say yet see if someone can sort it out
heres the next one Bucking bar heres the clue its not in halfords and its nothing to do wif a rodoe any takers
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hurry up boss the troops want updates not me trying to entertain them
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tabs have arrived, working out geometry for a 3link as we speak, also putting in an order for some links this evening, panhard bracket constructed, front axle cleared up rear steer knuckles waiting for me on the shelf, new hubs being made, but my JD2 is 3 weeks away.......
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come on chief.......
i/we built this
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in under a month
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very nice mike. but you haveto take into account that im a 45 minuite drive away from the disco, im working by my self, im not in a fully prepped workshop and most of the parts i need are not off the shelf parts. so yah progress is slow but i can deal with that if i have a better result at the end.
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You tell him boss.
But seriously well done mike
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well mike it looks awsome really good but just giving us photos is not enough you know we want more what eng ,box etc
if im being super critical the only bit i would change is the rock slider at the aft end i would have bent it to join to the angle tube coming down as i say if i was being super critical it is far better than i have ever owned so dont get cross just an obsevation
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bah! if i could clear all the crap out of this thread i would!
its arrived, had to send £200 to my father in-law because he got stuck in thailand for 10 days so no die....yet. also have to construct a stand for it too
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and how i last left the axles.....
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ohhhhh nice and shinney :twisted: looking good so far . . . hope the bender all turns out ok and working soon .. good luck dude :clap:
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going to go have a chat with rob on tuesday and pick up my 4wheel steer knuckles :twisted:
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Boss whats happening dont go cold on us now whats the latest or are you going to finish it and then post the pics
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yah...i stopped bothering on here, lack of input and intrest so i diddnt see the point
rear axle is now done and steerer and ready to bolt on. ordering some pinion conversions at the end of the week(payday :D ) just while he still has some cheap.
and might be picking up my die next week.
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dont be get down its just that everyone is interested and wants to see it finished but unfortunatly you have time and monetary constraints
we'r impatient thats human nature
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lack of input and intrest
Not from me Boss - can't wait to see it finished.
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tis nice to know chaps
i dont know when ill have any new pics as im busy this weekend. may be able to sort something out though.
does anyone in the norfolk area have an engine hoist i could borrow for the day?
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pictures say a thousand words, but they dont say thankyou toplessmatt as i would have been stuck 8" off the floor still if i diddnt have an engine hoist. top bloke
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that came too :D
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:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
i like alot . . . . guess what your next job is dude . . . .
MINEEEEEEEE :dance:
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very nice indeed both car and the tooling good to see you are buying QUALITY that WILL last you years
my dad bought me my socket set on my 18 birthday an ELORA set which was many moons ago now he has unfortunatly passed on but the elora set still goes on used it last sat fitting neighbours tow bar still going strong
keep it up
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No worries, glad it could be of use.
Better start trying to sort the forklift axles out now hadnt i :doh:
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snapon were doing a deal with the top box and rollcab, 100 bit service kit and a selection of pliers and sidecutters for 11.50 a week over all in the deal i save
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ahem....... bluepoint dont carry the same warrenty as snap-on, they offer 50% of the replacment cost if you upgrade to snap-on
bluepoint is the budget range of snap-on ;)
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interesting as i have the warrenty card for the lot.
i know there the budget range of snapon but the snap on equivelant would ahve cost over 4k which i dont have at the moent
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i can assure you thats always been the case with the 3 different snap-on dealers ive had the pleasure dealing with,
not that it really matters much till it breaks...
P.s
Get yer car built lol
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yeah working on that. my daughter came into the world on friday so now have even less time and money, have some ideas though, watch this space
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congrats on the baby dude .. :clap:
don't get on much at the moment new job strange hours etc ... but it's nice to see your still slogging on the truck..lol
keep going I want to see it finished for her 18th..lol
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hi
just like to say been working with snap on tools for last 10years and they are not as good as they make out ratchet rings that slip and when we would try to get replacement they ALWAYS quibble the1/4 3/8 ratchets arent as smooth as other top makes.
I ts the American hype thing.
But its what the firm give us and no we cant pinch them.
I still think what you have bought is good value its not worth paying the extra for snap on
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cheers lee, nice to hear from you again.
ordering some bits now so there might be an update soon
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Congrats with the baby mate, nice to see stuff is still getting done on you truck, ended up shifting on my pick up disco to allow a more sensible 90 to inhabit the drive so that the family can go places too.
keep posting pics mate it is always good to see what you are up to.
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hi boss
how is the build going?
Although i cant imagine you are having much spare time now your a dad.
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done some bits. not really much to report.made a chassis stand, tube bender is all assembled(with die) and im just waiting on prices on CDS that will deliver to norfolk.
so yeah...if anyone wants stuff bent up drop me a PM
i have a helper too. he wants to do engineering at college but wanted a bit of a head start on the practical stuff so hes helping out. ill be going down there this weekend if the snow doesnt stop me(doubtfull lol) so ill post some pics up
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well, hows the last 6 months been Boss?lol :grin:
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no one has any idea how big a smile there is on my face seeing the forum was back up :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
unfortunatly i have not done to much over the time but here are some photos to bring this thread upto date....
(apolagies for those who have seen this on other forums already)
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major sump clearance issues on the front axle, looking at extending it to 110
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Hey Boss man.....
yes it is good the site is back up and it was nice of you to stop the build while they worked on the site.... :evil:
now get on with it.. lol
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hi lee, still slacking. im working alot lately and i have very little time. so im not doing anything to it soon. which upsets me a little but needs must and all that.
that said, i could continue the build if u got an upgrade on my female......preferably on with a job.
apply below :cheesy:
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Looking good Boss. Don't build it too tall or you'll have to take the angle grinder to the garage to get it out :grin:
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that issue has already been adressed. if you look at the pics, the cant rails for the cage are sunken into the roof to keep the overall height as low as possible. the overall height on the 37s(with zero psi and 20" wheels still measuring 35") the 5" drop of the portal box, im roughly standard spring height and the low low cage im 10mm higher than when i had my old set up :D
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sorry there not in the pics
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thought i would throw this in there for comedy value
james struggles to bend the ERW tube. i can bend the CDS 1 handed lol...........4 stone difference might have something to do with it :blank:
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its a 108
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Like that!! :cheesy:
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thanks, its going to look schweeeeeeeeeet :cheesy:
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Well im up to speed now, spent the last three evenings reading Daisy 1.0 + 2.0 build threads :shocked:
I'm really impressed with all the work you've done and more so with your ability to just get on with it. I'm a mechanic by trade and although i know i could do what you've done i just havnt the balls to get on and do it.
Fair play to you Doug, really well done mr!! :cool: :cool:
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god! How did you manage that without going mental haha cheers, nice to know that people are still interested. Cheers for the props. Things are being accumulated again mostly money as were moving....AGAIN! and ill posibly need to get another car. Could go all out and get a nice shiny new 110 or get a propper car in diesel flavour and continue with the truck lol funds dont allow to do both.i do have a few jobs lined up to fund it some more...there will also be some nice taistfull tshirts avalable to purchace soon
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I like this a lot! Its going to be awesome, but I see you have the same problem as me, lack of funds! My project has ground to a halt!
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Hi boss!
Build is looking good would like to dasiy when shes finished
Dan
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Bump.
Any more progress Boss.
Been reading the thread and looks very interesting.
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Not a terrible ammount I dont think but it's that time of year again where I refuse to work on my bday so I have most of next week on it. My front links are made up, all 100cm from bolt to bolt made from 50x6.35 CDS with creeper joints at both ends so that should be a fairly strong setup;) I have steel arriving Tuesday so tomorrow will be a tidy up day and tuesday WILL be a progress day lol. Tbh I diddnt think people were still interested in it so I havnt been posting on here......
I know the idea has been batted around for a while but I'm thinking of ditching the body, I want it to stay a disco but it's too heavy and there is alot of work involved in making everything I want fit around the disco body..... You'll all know by Tuesday. If anyone needs stuff making let me know, tools are still yet to pay for themselves
That's all for now
Boss
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it stays a disco, and its gone 4link
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Hi Boss,
Glad too see you're still at it and glad to see I still have a place in you're signature :cool:
Congrats on the new addition - I've got two myself now and completely sympathize on the time/money/grief from the missus situation.
My own landrover story has almost ground to halt, I still have a disco but its neglected to the point of scrap - its still MOT'd but I only made 20 miles on saturday morning before overheating and having to come home, trial abandoned and season [!Expletive Deleted!] :embarrassed:
I either need to re-commit or pack it in...
Hope you get your Daisy finished, my Daisy is five and she has already decided she is getting married to one of the boys in her class - you have all this to come pal!
ATB, Stu.
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hi stu hows tricks? youll always be in my sig mate lol.
still slogging away at it slowly, but my situation has got a little worse as ive split up with my girlfriend and have nowhere to live. my dad will put me up untill i can save a deposit to rent a flat but i have a 70 mile round trip to do each day after doing my 7:00am-4:00pm stint in london. so its looking like 4am starts and 6:30-7:30pm finishes when you take traffic into account, i dont even want to think about what im going to have to do when the olympics are on.....we have hoists on the olympic park, heathrow, centre of chelsey the list goes on and its going to be a . ill be 4 miles from the truck but ill have about 4 mins spare everey week to work on it.
im waiting for some bungs to be machined so i can use the origional landrover radius arm mounts, doing this was soposed to save time but im not sure. at the end of the month(somehow) im collecting some 44" michelins, same pattern as i have but but bigger and with 90% tread on them.
i opted to run the mog drum breaks for a while as im sick of relying on people to keep promaces they seem to have no intention of keeping, ill run the drums while i work out my own disk conversion.
as soon as i get these bungs ill be welding them into the tube and bolting the front axle on(that simple and that fast yes) then itll be wheeled out side and the body will be lifted off. it will be a sad moment becasue as you know i wanted to keep it a disco but you clearly cant have it all. but i have a trick up my sleave that should help keep the disco looks.....
would say watch this space but i wouldnt bother because not much will happen for atleast 3 months :(
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Sorry to hear that Doug, sounds like you've gt it rough at the moment.
Dont lose heart though, life has a habit of sending us ups and downs to deal with. Daisy will still be sitting patiently when you get time to get back to it - after all, for many of us building and fixing them is often better than driving and breaking them :shocked:
Hope things start looking up for you soon, I'll watch this space regardless.
All the best, Stu.