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Climategate, What do you think?

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Disco Matt:
My main arguments are with the evidence that has come to light with the leaked emails. There's plenty to suggest data being manipulated and attempts to ignore freedom of information requests.

The attempts to squash any opposing viewpoints are not remotely scientific. If the evidence is so perfect and convincing then why are they labelling those who disagree "deniers" (implication being that they're as academically and socially unacceptable as holocaust deniers)? Generally science progresses by adapting theories as more evidence comes to light rather than trying to stamp on opposing evidence. If there is an overwhelming pile of evidence in favour of man-made global warming then why do they feel the need to smear and belittle those who disagree? Let the facts do the talking. 

The efforts visible in some of these emails would be a better fit for a fundamentalist religious group rather than a supposedly scientific body!

I would also point out that certain elements of the media are equally guilty of ignoring data that doesn't fit their editorial line. The Independent, for example, printed a gleeful piece about the demise of the Scottish ski trade shortly before two or three excellent years for the industry (which oddly enough they didn't comment on!)

beast5680:
be nice if it does warm up a bit and stop raining :D

wormster:
Ho Hum, here we go again.................

We've been raping teh planet senseless since Abrahm Derby started producing worught iron in Colabrookdale.
Before that MOST industry was small, self contained AND sustainable.
We are in a climaticaly "warm" period, that is to say that IT will either, get warmer, causing the ice caps to melt and sea levels to rise, OR, cool down, letting the ice caps spread once again.

WHICHEVER way you look at it mankind is on a hiding to nuffing, all teh postulation by govenments, scientists, eco freaks and the rest is just hot air.

There's enough oil/gas to last another couple of hundred years! - GO and DRIVE baby.

To quote Groucho Marx: I not events, have the power to make me happy or unhappy today. I can choose which it shall be. Yesterday is dead, tomorrow hasn't arrived yet. I have just one day, today, and I'm going to be happy in it.   

gtomo2:
Would these be the same people that told us that we are all going to die because of using tins with cfc in that has made a hole in the ozone and now because the said hole in the ozone is getting smaller the ice caps are melting and we are all going to die...........

Oh and just a qucik one for you all imagine a cube of ice in a drink is the ice cap. When you put water in the glass put the ice cube in mark were the water is, then when the ice cube has melted mark were the water level is and hay presto as if by magic the water level will be the same........

The world is changing but rember we are in a new part of the universe with new magnatic fields pulling at the earth so strange things are going to happen. Its called the way of life in time everything dieds.

carbore:
If they really gave a dam

A ban on building any important building (school, hospital etc) less than say 5m above sea level (or similar)
Relocate significant business in London to outside any risk area "protected" by the thames flood barrier (Finance and Government etc)
A ban on building ANY housing development over 3 houses on land known to have flooded x times in the last 100 years
A ban on all imports not produced in factories governed by the same H&S/Emissions legislations as the UK
A school children must go to their closest school, ending the "choice" sham and forcing them to make ALL schools equally good
Relocate as much as possible up North or Cornwall , helping regeneration, removing pressure on South East infrastructure (and so I dont have to commute to London!)
End the concept of "farm diversification" growing food should be all they need to do
Make all (reasonable) gardening products VAT free (Seeds, sustainable compost, non-crap tools, etc)
Ban public funded wildlife programs that proudly say that they took four years to film, traveled the world, and then say I cant drive down to the shops in a 4x4 or everything they show on TV will DIE, Just run repeats of "Wildlife on 1" you sodding hypocrites.

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