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Climategate, What do you think?
carbore:
Im surprised that no one else has posted about this.
What do you think about climategate http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/30/crugate_analysis/ baically the fact that the "highly influential" Climate research unit haev been "accused" or even "Discovered" via hacked emaisl/reportts of sexing up climate research.
The head of CRU has steped down today.
Lots of very interesting quotes about ahat he said, lots of legitimate argument about out of contexts etc, but still very hard to ignore.
crazymac:
It just confirms to me what i've always thought!
The government in successive years have latched onto these people as a way of getting more revenue from taxes etc and not allowed any challenge to their theories.
Yes the earth "may" be warming up, but it has historically done this, so whats the problem?
dxmedia:
It's doing it at an unpresedented speed.
If it's doing it.
mike142sl:
--- Quote from: crazymac on December 02, 2009, 13:36:29 ---It just confirms to me what i've always thought!
The government in successive years have latched onto these people as a way of getting more revenue from taxes etc and not allowed any challenge to their theories.
Yes the earth "may" be warming up, but it has historically done this, so whats the problem?
--- End quote ---
Not at the rate it has been doing since the late 70s, and anyway, if you're going to use an argument like this where are you getting your evidence from - the scientists per chance? :doh:
dxmedia:
--- Quote from: mike142sl on December 02, 2009, 14:03:11 ---
--- Quote from: crazymac on December 02, 2009, 13:36:29 ---It just confirms to me what i've always thought!
The government in successive years have latched onto these people as a way of getting more revenue from taxes etc and not allowed any challenge to their theories.
Yes the earth "may" be warming up, but it has historically done this, so whats the problem?
--- End quote ---
Not at the rate it has been doing since the late 70s, and anyway, if you're going to use an argument like this where are you getting your evidence from - the scientists per chance? :doh:
--- End quote ---
The problem with the CRU is that they wouldn't release their data for other scientists to verify. The situation is that the CRU have said 'x' is happening, and not provided any citation.
The released emails (which have been veified by the guys who's just stood down as being authentic) show lovely snippets such as requests that the original data is destoryed and conformation that some of the figures for presentation are just fabrications.
The big issues is the hockey stick effect where the global tempereature is increasing exponentially, the raw data for this is a fabrication. Also the CRU are at the global fourfront of climate change science.
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