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Boggert:
Sorry chaps...Nothing is a clear cut as a video shows. There are two sides to every story. Lee has a valid point as do everyone else, but I'm not going to comment as I was not there and I do not know the circumstances of the arrest.
I guess only the offers and suspect involved know what happened.

TBM:
I used to work for West Mercia Professional Standards so have seen both sides to many of these kind of stories. However, it does appear that the narrator is describing a completely different story to the one on the video.

And if those were 'punches with all his might' then the only person who needs to be worried is Audley Harrison. My 8st misses can punch harder than that....

carbore:
About 1 month ago there was that post/video of those women who were running around the motorway. Diddnt lots of people say the police should have restrained them more. AS the UK police continue to resist the widespread deployment of firearms (for them, the Crims all get them wiht thier first ASBO now) then I continue to respect them.

He fought the law....and the law won.

Discopoo:
I think the fact the video is off the Sun site says it all realy, yes they be a little heavy handed but they only got tougher when he had bit one of them ?

Lord Shagg-Pyle:
An interesting thread. I for one never ever trust what the camera shows, as the Press seem to show only the bits they want to show.
A prime example was footage from on of the Poll Tax demos in London. The Press only showed the bit the where the protestor got a whack across the back of the head with a baton. Instantly it was 'fascist bully boys' etc etc. I then saw the full footage when I was on a Public Order course. The bit the Press had 'forgotten' to show was the same protestor running at the Police lines with a carving knife taped to the end of a scaffold pole.
Selective editing?
I routinely now face more open aggression and violence than I have ever done before from all sections of society and all age groups. You sometimes have to fight fire with fire. I recently dealt with a guy who had threatened a chap with a knife. But when we got hold of him and restrained him , and were still concerned that he had the knife, we were the bullies, the Nazis, the ones who must have got picked on at school, the ones who had nothing better to do than pick on a poor innocent member of the Public. And yes, he did have a knife.
Use of force is always a controversial subject, and the way that criticism is levelled is getting to a lot of officers, who are getting to the point where they won't use force until it is too late, by which time they have been injured.
It is very frustrating when it gets to court, possibly up to a year down the line, when the accused is sat there all smart and sober, the tape is played and then an incident that took seconds is then pulled apart over hours, by a group of armchair warriors whose definition of danger is ducking to avoid a misfired staple or particularly sharp paperclip.
I thank all of you for the support of the Police. There are always two sides to a story.We do make mistakes, as we are only human.
My motto when investigating an incident is simple. 'Believe no one and assume nothing'.

'Evenin all'! :police:

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