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Boggert:
--- Quote from: Lord Shagg-Pyle on December 02, 2008, 18:37:22 ---An interesting thread. I for one never ever trust what the camera shows, as the Press seem to show only the bits they want to show.
A prime example was footage from on of the Poll Tax demos in London. The Press only showed the bit the where the protestor got a whack across the back of the head with a baton. Instantly it was 'fascist bully boys' etc etc. I then saw the full footage when I was on a Public Order course. The bit the Press had 'forgotten' to show was the same protestor running at the Police lines with a carving knife taped to the end of a scaffold pole.
Selective editing?
I routinely now face more open aggression and violence than I have ever done before from all sections of society and all age groups. You sometimes have to fight fire with fire. I recently dealt with a guy who had threatened a chap with a knife. But when we got hold of him and restrained him , and were still concerned that he had the knife, we were the bullies, the Nazis, the ones who must have got picked on at school, the ones who had nothing better to do than pick on a poor innocent member of the Public. And yes, he did have a knife.
Use of force is always a controversial subject, and the way that criticism is levelled is getting to a lot of officers, who are getting to the point where they won't use force until it is too late, by which time they have been injured.
It is very frustrating when it gets to court, possibly up to a year down the line, when the accused is sat there all smart and sober, the tape is played and then an incident that took seconds is then pulled apart over hours, by a group of armchair warriors whose definition of danger is ducking to avoid a misfired staple or particularly sharp paperclip.
I thank all of you for the support of the Police. There are always two sides to a story.We do make mistakes, as we are only human.
My motto when investigating an incident is simple. 'Believe no one and assume nothing'.
'Evenin all'! :police:
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Well put LSP :lol:
littlepow:
For a savage beating, he doesn't have very many injuries. Just a few minor grazes and a hurt ego.
Could they not have used CS spray?
Boggert:
--- Quote from: littlepow on December 02, 2008, 20:15:46 ---For a savage beating, he doesn't have very many injuries. Just a few minor grazes and a hurt ego.
Could they not have used CS spray?
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CS will not stop him struggling, some times it makes it worse.
Ridgeback:
He was lucky, acting like a total drunken idiot in many parts of the world the police would have given him a lot more than that.
I wish the police could give drunken louts and idiots more of this heavy handed force, it might make them less of a joke to the louts.
The shops and pubs round hear are always surrounded in idiots that have been drinking to many pints of brave and decide to spoil the enjoyment of normal people having a good time.
The louts have no respect for the police because they know they cant do much to them.
I do agree that the clip looks like the police are using a lot of force but if he did not put up a fight, would the police of used any force, I think not.
Thinking of it another way, your the policeman doing your job, do use use force and avoid getting injured or not use enough and get assaulted every night.
If it was him or me, I know the option I would go for!
hobbit:
If he is military, wonder what would have happened to him if he tried to run back at camp
I can imagine the repercussions for him will not be light when he's brought up on orders for this escapade, although I've been out for a long while now, I'm still presumng this behaviour is frowned upon by the military
As for his profession, it dont matter if he's mil, still has to obey the law, Civvy and Mil
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