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drfence:
after watching that again i can't see any justification for the way they handled that! they should be kicked out of the forces,abusing their power the

Biodiesel-Bev:
He should count himself lucky......if he'd been in the USA he's have been shot!

(Watching BBC2 Louis Theroux - Law and Disorder in Philadelphia. )

diggerdog36:

--- Quote from: lee celtic on November 30, 2008, 20:52:24 ---I've watched this a few times now and from what I saw.....

a..he tried to run so should be treated as hostile.
b..When they got him he struggled so they correctly used more force.
c.. the cop on the left was trying to keep the guys head down and still if the guy on the road wants to rub his face on the road the cop did right trying to stop him.
d.. when the other two were trying to get the cuffs on the cop on the left was not punching the guy in the face he was hitting the back of the shoulder with a palmed  hand to make bending his arm back easier.
e..In this day and age nobody can take any chances with their own safety. they did what they had to do to take him down while staying safe themselves.
f.. Maybe the soldier should should not have got sloshed and had a go in the first place ,

these are my views on this vid and if you watch the cop shows ie.cops with cameras , street wars , car wars etc you will see these techniques used time and again. The only reason this is news is because the guy on the ground is a soldier therefore a hero :roll:

If it was a dustbin man or a plasterer it would be on one of the shows named above with him being called a Muppet by the voice over guy...

--- End quote ---
Obviously been watching a different video to us then, or youre missing something.

lee celtic:
1.39 into the vid stop it and you can clearly see the guys face is facing the ground and the officers hand is palm down in the guys shoulder blade...

yes they were heavy handed but what would you prefer ?? that they leave the the cuffs off???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiyPTuek7mQ&feature=related

J.D.:
Im with Lee Cetic here...The police approach so he runs away - if he had nothing to hide why did he raise their suspicions by attempting to evade arrest when it is highly likely (but not confirmed) that the police were probably requesting him to stop.

"He drunkenly tried to speak with the officers" - he was under the influence of alcohol and beleived to be causing a problem in a public place, as well as standing in the middle of a road. If he wanted to speak to the officers, why did he stand "ten feet away" and shout at them? Rather than approaching them in a normal manner.

"Suddenly the three police officers run across the road" - They walk towards him in what I regard as a very unthreatening way and only start running when he attempts to evade them.

I do agree that banging his head on the road in that manner was not required, judging by the video, but cameras can and do lie as regards what was being said. As far as shouting into his ear, I suspect that excess alcohol played a part in this and he refused to calm down, as is frequently the case with D & D people, the officer is probably shouting for him to stop struggling. The newsreader also says he is pushed in the face with a boot, but it is either extremely well hidden or it doesn't happen as all three officers are on their knees with their feet behind them.

It also appears from the video (as Lee Celtic says), that the offender was moving his head himself, not the police officer moving it for him. The second police officer attempts to stop him moving his head as soon as is possible.

"Punches him in the back with all his might" - It does appear that this is uncalled for, but if he is refusing to obey two police officers and will not release his arm to allow handcuffs to be used, possibly for his own protection, then the police are obliged to use reasonable force to perform their duty. As the newsreader also says, he has already bitten one officer while being arrested.

We also don't know if anything previous to this off camera has occurred - such as the offender being warned / asked to move on / ordered to leave the area sometime earlier.

Don't get me wrong, I've been on the wrong side of the law once or twice, but its a [!Expletive Deleted!] job they do, they get paid peanuts and have to put up with drunken idiots day in day out who show them no respect and take officers away from more pressing matters. If he had not attempted to run, thirty seconds would have passed, his identity woud have been confirmed and he wouldn't have ended up on the floor after trying to escape.

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