whats controls ur truck in the mud? but there r rule?

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

all set enter now .

has to be value for money

easy to fit

road useable every day

controlable at high speed

poll later for the best set up

 oh and the rules

springs no more than 60 quid for a plus 2

shocks well lets say no more than 125 quid better be good un 4 that

front radius arm less than 200  quid

rear trailing less than 150 quid

bumpstop less money the better

brake pipes . can u use the original ones?

lift has to be plus 4 minium

mesure ur travel from the wheel centre to the top arch

is design for fun off road and a cheap sport set up.

total max cost 1200. quid now try mud pluggers

[boss]

its always going to be a comprimise, if its articulation your after get a 3 link kit os something but it wont be that great on the road......but then your looking at putting 37s on so thats not an issue for you. i went to llama 4x4 and got his +6(i think) rough country shocks and they seem ok.
dont go for something like the scrap-iron-racing extreme kit, its not that good and it was a copy of equipe4x4 kit......and in all honisty equipe4x4 is a better kit. i think you have to mix and match to get what you want from anything.

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

1500 quid or more . not in the running nice try.
but there is a method of 3 link movement for a lot less know how?

[Jake]

There's loads of options for suspension
If you want great handling on/off road then go for Old Man Emu
If you want articulation, look into the QT kit, that seems to be the best kit on the market
Thats my opinion anyway
 :D

[Bulli]

Jake im not going to argue as the qt stuff is good but their 3 link isnt as good as safari gard..imho.

if you want cheap make em yourself. Discos have quite a few limitations...mainly bodywork. If you put your 56 inch tyres on your screwed lol.

for value get 2 inch drop mounts from paddocks as they are cheap get some plus 4 procomps and there you go budget city. if you want more from the rear make some raised mounts and fit + 8 shocks....and big bump stops.
also worth fitting cranked trailing arms...which are good value from equippe...and very high quality.

thats just a start...and dont forget much longer brake lines for your 10 inch lift

[Jake]

Jake im not going to argue as the qt stuff is good but their 3 link isnt as good as safari gard..imho.

Neither am i, Its not really my scene tbh  
The Safari Gard stuff looks great and was one of the first to take front articulation to the max.
The only downside with it is the price and getting it shipped from the states.
If i was going to go down that route, thats the company i'd buy from.
Personally, after driving a few motors wth Old Man Emu i wouldn't go any other way with suspension now.
Its simply the best  8)

[Bulli]

lol, i wasnt suggesting it was lol.

ome stuff is very good at giving offroad ability with good road holding you are right there.

[Xtremeteam]

Gwynn lewis / llama4x4 set up on the rear & +2 springs & shocks on the front = job done

[Bulli]

jobs never done

[Jake]

jobs never done

Ain't that the truth
 :lol:

[extreme90]

ive got the same amout of travel as the scrapiron kit
at a fraction of the 2k cost  :shock:
all in all its gott be around 500 quid to start from scratch, i had most of it already fitted  :roll:
now bearing in mind my tyres are 35 inch aswel not tiddly 33's to decieve you  :roll:
<edit>...mike....<edit>  :twisted:  :tongue:  :tongue:

[Tyke]

That's the stuff guys . . . . get 'em flexing . . . . there's those who can and there's those who can't . . . . LOL


 :twisted:

[Lyndsey731]

I've got -2 turrets, -2 rear shock mounts, +2 shocks +2 springs, all the arms, extended bump stops and break hoses to go with it which I thought would be the muts nuts, what a fool! don't get me wrong it works well but as Bulli says the jobs never done. I now want to get rid of all the -2 kit which is basically brand new and get taller turrets and rear mounts with something in the region of +6 or more shocks which I assume is something along the lines of what theblueysilverthing is running.

Gav

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

thats it girl one for the poll

what about funday kits not comp stuff

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

thought i made it too easy now read the rules .

oh photos of system in action and pros and cons score well with me

[Xtremeteam]

ive got the same amout of travel as the scrapiron kit
at a fraction of the 2k cost  :shock:
all in all its gott be around 500 quid to start from scratch, i had most of it already fitted  :roll:
now bearing in mind my tyres are 35 inch aswel not tiddly 33's to decieve you  :roll:
<edit>...mike....<edit>  :twisted:  :tongue:  :tongue:

<edit>  :lol:

[Xtremeteam]

+2 pro comps on front - £70
Lovells springs +2 £150
LLama4x4 / Gwyn lewis rear shocks & mounts £125



think thats it total £345 for 37" of verticle lift on one wheel & an RTi of 1160

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

thats the way why not lower the spring top down 3 inchs so at the bottem on the chassais rail and move the shocks into the middle at 45 degree and youve got 3 links set up for a bit of time welding should give 50 inches at least

[Xtremeteam]

thats the way why not lower the spring top down 3 inchs so at the bottem on the chassais rail and move the shocks into the middle at 45 degree and youve got 3 links set up for a bit of time welding should give 50 inches at least

 :?

is there anymore point for more flex?

if i run out at that i engage lockers & carry on!

Also the above is spot on for fast road driving & fast offroad driving,

BTW thats about the max for the rear balljoint  

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

i ll try and explain .

if u tyre hits the inner arch thats ur maxium upsweep . all it is the turret trick on the front plus gives lift.

seen moveable rear top hat to keep the same height for road use. they use air rams or nitro adjustable rams.

as for the a frame joint it needs to become a cv joint type.

to give u an idea of travel look at gon2far lightweight one its about the same.

rear trailing arm is the most differcult bit . has to be removed for offroad and on for road use


if u had a drawing of an axle and rear chassais of a of ur truck

i could show where to mount the brace and place on the axle for the shocks

i could draw it in the plan stage.

the springs have to be secured in all the time.

[Bulli]

nah no point at all mike....my hilifts too small...tyres still on the deck and none left!

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

right i ll got a 2 lift and fixed rear springs and standard anti bar in place gives 17 inchs drop and 18 lift with 265/75/16. got work to do not sure what

[extreme90]

even so, can have all the travel in the world, no downforce = no traction

thats were that air lockers come in  
i used to  have rubbish flex, but i could go further than people with stupid amounts of flex, that spent money on suspention instead of lockers

it does however keep your landy nice and level, and not unstable, thats the only + point of alot of flex IMO
dan

[davidlandy]

even so, can have all the travel in the world, no downforce = no traction

thats were that air lockers come in  
i used to  have rubbish flex, but i could go further than people with stupid amounts of flex, that spent money on suspention instead of lockers

it does however keep your landy nice and level, and not unstable, thats the only + point of alot of flex IMO
dan

sensible words!

[Bulli]

whats the big deal with lockers??

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

right no locker allowed .standard running gear only thank you.

landrover didnt have them for the first 23 years that the way it stays apart from hdc and centre diff lock and tc that all youve got.

[Bulli]

if you want the honest truth you will get further than you can ever drive with a GOOD winch

[Budgie]

You say your springs are "fixed", if by that you mean you've secured them at the top with jubilee clips or something then take them off and fit cones in the top to allow the springs to dislocate.
This will give you an extra inch or so on the drop. It won't increase traction as there still won't be any weight on the wheel but it may stop the unloaded wheel spinning as much.

It's also not a good idea to fix the springs at the top unless you've got near new retainers at the bottom. I see too many springs snap or bend  the rusty bottom retainers and dislocate at the bottom instead of the top. Tricky when you come onto level ground and the spring misses the axle!!

Other than than that you're looking at lockers or a winch, as has already been said.

Oh, and I think you'll find that Land Rover have been around for a little longer than 23 years.  

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

there is 3 locking holds at the top. with that u can use the original brake pipes also prefer long travel springs or progressive springs. all the springs and shocks was a full new set 18 months ago

was thinkin of adj shocks heights. like on boyracers or high lift amerian ones with cars on 27 inch rims and lower disloate hats but havent looked into it together with a set of shocks mounted at 45deg for rear 3 link movement

i meant from 1946 to 1969 if u include all with out any sort of locker

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

winch works well if there is sum there to pull 2