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What could i swap it for?...
muddyjames:
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I should also point ouot to anyone who is towing for their business that the law requires a tachograph to be fitted to any comercial outfit exceeding 3.5 tonnes.
BTW it's based on MAM, not what's actually there.
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Also if I remember the wierd and whacky rules correctly it has to be a new fangled didgtal style tacho now as well that has SO many complicated rules to go with them (down loading data each month) and extra money to Gordon Brown. (they cost about £45 each and last for about 5 years me thinks.)
also dont forget even if your not towing then it is still recording your speed so if you get pulled over the lovely police person can use the tacho as evidence if they stop you with you driving! All very crafty to do you for speeding 11 months after you have actualy been speeding!!!! (example) your tacho shows speeds of 65-70mph. on a tacho most you can do anywhere is 60mph. Your nicked mate!!)
JimsMowing:
--- Quote from: "muddyjames" ---
--- Quote from: "Range Rover Blues" ---
I should also point ouot to anyone who is towing for their business that the law requires a tachograph to be fitted to any comercial outfit exceeding 3.5 tonnes.
BTW it's based on MAM, not what's actually there.
--- End quote ---
Also if I remember the wierd and whacky rules correctly it has to be a new fangled didgtal style tacho now as well that has SO many complicated rules to go with them (down loading data each month) and extra money to Gordon Brown. (they cost about £45 each and last for about 5 years me thinks.)
also dont forget even if your not towing then it is still recording your speed so if you get pulled over the lovely police person can use the tacho as evidence if they stop you with you driving! All very crafty to do you for speeding 11 months after you have actualy been speeding!!!! (example) your tacho shows speeds of 65-70mph. on a tacho most you can do anywhere is 60mph. Your nicked mate!!)
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Surely though when the trailer is parked away i can do any speed as long as its within the standard national laws? How will i know if i need a tacho? I can get the weight of my trailer, but how am i supposed to know the weight of its contents when it can be a multitude of equipment, and bags of grass, leaves, logs etc etc?
Range Rover Blues:
Matters not, it's based on Maximum Allowable MAss, or as the Europrats would have it Maximumn Technically Permissable Loaded Mass.
Doesn't matter is it's empty, a 2 tonne trailer is a 2 tonne trailer.
muddyjames:
if it is just the landy then you will be fine. no tacho needed but digital tachos record and show an error message of no card inserted so if you were to do 110mph the tacho will record it. only good thing is it cant record a name to the driver. obviously if you get pulled over and the police download data and you have been driving non stop for 2hours it is clear on who was driving. You were!!
If you have for argument sake a 3.5 tonne van with a 2.8 tonne box trailer and fill both van and trailer with feathers you will still need a tacho as the combined maximum weight the van and trailer can maximum have is over 3.5tonnes. even if you tow the trailer empty and the van empty the max you "could" have is again over 3.5 tonnes.
Get where I am kind of coming from?
With my voluntary work we are having a nightmare with all this working out the rules etc etc. I am just coming to grips now on how to get my card back out the machine!!! :lol:
JimsMowing:
--- Quote from: "muddyjames" ---if it is just the landy then you will be fine. no tacho needed but digital tachos record and show an error message of no card inserted so if you were to do 110mph the tacho will record it. only good thing is it cant record a name to the driver. obviously if you get pulled over and the police download data and you have been driving non stop for 2hours it is clear on who was driving. You were!!
If you have for argument sake a 3.5 tonne van with a 2.8 tonne box trailer and fill both van and trailer with feathers you will still need a tacho as the combined maximum weight the van and trailer can maximum have is over 3.5tonnes. even if you tow the trailer empty and the van empty the max you "could" have is again over 3.5 tonnes.
Get where I am kind of coming from?
With my voluntary work we are having a nightmare with all this working out the rules etc etc. I am just coming to grips now on how to get my card back out the machine!!! :lol:
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Ah ha! I have got you now. I drive my Disco V8 and an ifor williams gd85. Now its max payload is 2700kg. Im not sure what the disco is but will that put me over the legal threshold?
Sorry to keep going on about this!
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