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Eeyore:
Just stepping in a moment.

Please be a bit more carefull with some your replies. Everyone has the right to disagree with you, just as you have the right to disagree with them. However, further posts containing personal or general insults will be removed and words had with the postee.

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore

Cheggs:
THe Law is the Law!
         If the police used zero tolerance to all offences of any kind then the worlsd would be better for it,
          Illegal Parkers towed - Less congestion
          Jay Walkers Fined     - Less risk of Killing some Idiot who steps out in front of you

     That's just a couple of example's, if that lad had hit some one they would have no recourse under law to gain compensation, due to the lack of insurance, the 17tr old is only able to ride abike of this type on private Land, would you take a drive a car with out  Mot, no headlights down a public road ? I do agree that the Police shouldn't be able to crush the Bike without further research, they are there to enforce the Law the Judges pass the sentence, perhaps ahefty storage charge and afine would be more appropirate, then crush it if you can't pay.
    A Vechile is a Lethal weapon if used incorrectly, would you have any problems with the Police if he had been using a 12 bore in a public place.
    If you don't understand the law you pay the price. :)
The law is double edged it works for you and against you but where would we be with out it?

waveydavey:
I think that one of the critical lines has been missed; the Police in this case got involved after a complaint from somebody, this would imply to me that it's not the first time (people moan the first time not phone the police), if he does it regually that is flounting te law not misunderstanding the law.

Valid comments regarding taking your vehicle if greenlaning but major differences:
I am taxed, MOT'd and insured; if I hurt somebody teh insurance will pay then if they find I was illegally there will reclaim the payout from me.

If this kid had hit somebody there was no insurance; the victim would have had to claim from the 17 year old!

If I am caught where I shouldn't be in a legal vehicle would it be crushed? Even if one of the documents have recently run out I would not expect that.

If I am in an old LR that's not roadworthy, or especially not insured then I deserve to have it crushed; and to pay to have it done!

The big issue is insurance; if the kid had 3rd party insurance fair enough but I'll bet money he didn't.

rangerider:

--- Quote from: "drmike" ---Hmm, but if it was a genuine mistake then it seems harsh. How mnay here haven't made a genuine mistake? I know I have got muddled in the past and found myself where I didn't want to be - I'd feel aggrieved if my ride was crushed.

As I understand it there is no appeal against such a decision, it's one of those situations where the police are judge and jury which doesn't seem at all right.

Mike
--- End quote ---


A genuine mistake fair enough, but there were 3 here, only one of which I could possibly find it in my heart to excuse.

I assume that the rider had gained permission from the owner to ride on what he assumed was private land???? Somehow I doubt it.

I agree with terminus in that this was more than likely this had happened previously, if not by this particular rider & bike then by others, tough luck that this particular person has been used to serve as an example.

How many people opposed to this enforcement of the law are the first to complain when some toerag puts a window thru on their house/truck and nothing happens????????

johnniep:
im sorry, but has anyone atcually checked the bhp of a yzf250? what year is it, because i would be supprised if it did excel 33bhp! as you can get up to 400/450/500cc bikes still only just crossing the 33bhp mark!
and also, down here many bridleways merge into byways and so on and so forth! quite often without clear signs! and what would they rather, they where terroriseing people ina shopping mall, settig light to cars, or riding a bike up and down a lane! thats my view on it! it keeps them out the way most of the time!
How many people on here con honestly say they have never broekn the law regarding not driveing/rideing somewhere they shouldnt? or driveing something they where not licensed to? be it forklift truck or 1000cc superbike?

thats my stick to stir up the hornets nest!
cheers now!

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