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A crushing blow
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I certainly disagree with the police having powers to destroy what is in effect private property. It should be up to a magistrate at least to make these decisions. Apparently crushing bikes was their Chief Constable’s baby so little hope there.
It might have one more good giving the lad some community service clearing Footpaths or Bridleways.
tomcat:
--- Quote from: "Dave2a" ---I can't believe that anyone can agree with this! What is wrong with you people?
Different situation, I know, but the punishment is the same for example In the current situation with greenlaning and the confusion that is NERC etc. anyone of you (supposing you do go greenlaning) could accidentally end up somewhere you shouldn't. And before anyone bleats on about checking routes first, there are local authorities and the Police who cannot even tell you the status of some lanes at the present time.
So if you do go somewhere you shouldn't and are caught you will presumably hand over the keys to the Police officer with a smile saying "It's a fair cop" as they crush your several thousands of pounds worth of pride and joy?
Thought not. i think you are missing the point,when the police take the bike or bikes ect, the law states that, that bike has no place on public land ie, no tax,test,or insurance.where as if you were stoped on a green lane in ya landy taxed,tested and insured you would only be done for the laning offence. if its not taxed,tested or insured crush the f***er. pint any one. :D
Fools.
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Skibum346:
--- Quote from: "att" ---Heavy handed and out of order.
Thats the trouble with this bloody country.
Get caught burgling a house and you get a slap on the wrists.
In each and every case I now take the law into my own hands.
The Police have their hands tied by legislation......And quite often their own low IQ. :roll:
The tide will soon turn and unfortunately the Police will bear the brunt of the publics anger.
I am usually a law biding citizen, but the many new laws coming in make me want to break them more and more.
Totalitarian State is here.
I just hope all the folks who agree with this sort of heavy handed response agree with it when they are on the end of it through no fault of their own, just a simple mistake can lead to this....We are not all perfect and do not know all the laws of the land.
Do we really want the UK to be homogonised?.....The spirit of the people controlled completely.....I don`t think so, but we are going down the path at an alarming rate of knots.
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Glad to seee the "Clydeside Reds" are still alive and well.....
:P :P
Terminus:
--- Quote from: "att" ---The Police have their hands tied by legislation......And quite often their own low IQ. :roll:
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I take exception to that, everyone has a point of view but if you can't make it without such insults perhaps its not worth making.
Cheers
Terminus:
--- Quote from: "Dave2a" ---I can't believe that anyone can agree with this! What is wrong with you people?
Different situation, I know, but the punishment is the same for example In the current situation with greenlaning and the confusion that is NERC etc. anyone of you (supposing you do go greenlaning) could accidentally end up somewhere you shouldn't. And before anyone bleats on about checking routes first, there are local authorities and the Police who cannot even tell you the status of some lanes at the present time.
So if you do go somewhere you shouldn't and are caught you will presumably hand over the keys to the Police officer with a smile saying "It's a fair cop" as they crush your several thousands of pounds worth of pride and joy?
Thought not.
Fools.
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The issue here is not simply where he was **he was 17 riding a 250 (not legal) as a result he would not be insured or covered in any way to ride it Oh its good to slate the law until this poor lost **thought he was on a dirt track individual** crashes into your car or a member of your family and you pay because he's not covered.
So in essence the above comments are exagerated and based simply on the fact of where he was and not the laws he was breaking - it's a trails bike was it taxed (doubtful) another legislative issue, was it MOT'd and verified as safe to be on a road (again doubtful as his uncle only uses it on tracks) - Where he was is only a small part of the greater picture.
People are often quick to shout injustice but is it really? well I refuse to debate the finer points of law (with which I am fully aquainted with my not low IQ) but in this instance theres a lot more to it than just being in the wrong place. :shock:
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