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Xtremeteam:
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att:
I think I will step in here once again....

I do know of Police officers who do not always do the correct thing, take that how you like.

I also know of a ......... who will cover things up with the aid of the Police Force.

I do know of things that are serious that have been covered up in the past.

No names, no locations, no direct accusations.....I just know these things because I was privvy to the information at the time.

The whole system is corrupt as it stands now, never mind where it is going for the future :roll:

Bulli:
No BOB ,
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I have NO problem with the basis of the law as it stands ONLY with the way the judgment and punishment are arrived at.
So you would rather have cases which are clear cut , with indefensable guilt put through the courts? Why ? because the Police are all untrustworthy?I htink we are all taxed enough...maybe some simplification is required.

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Not being able to see the possibilities simply shows a lack of imagination. Seeing the possibilities but believing they could never happen is foolish

I can see the possibilities, i dont dismiss them lightly. The problem i have is that you have taken a simplification of the legal process to allow clear guilt to define the punishment and translated this to a move toward a Nazi like state. The reason i continue to comment is clearly that i dont agree with this.  

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Actualy you are wrong to accuse me of aligning it. It is the main point. Hitler, Mussalini, Pol Pot etc started somewhere. They didnt just spring into exsistance as mass murders, they first gained popular support by introducing quick fixes that the majority found popular whilst the minority were accused of standing in the way of progress.

Yes, point taken on both Hitler.

Mussolini  was an elected representitive but was never voted into power. He was asked to form a government by the King in October 1922 when the previous administration failed. He then manipulated the laws to dispand opposition parties and assumed ultimate power.

Thats could happen, i suspect that it wont and you are simply enjoying creating a stir. The likelyhood is very very slim.

PolPot BTW was never elected either .He seized power and the political party(if you should call it that) never had popular support.They simply terrifed all the uneducated peasants that were left.
He simply had sufficient weaponary to subdue any resistance and once you have killed a third of your own populace, mainly intelectuals, there was no resistance.
 The premise(sorry cant be bothered to find a quote ..i know you love em) of your case. He seized power of the Kamer rouge when the leader mysteriously disappeared(most think he killed him). So if Blair disappears and 2 jags jumps in maybe you will have the point you clearly seek.

Sorry Bob i know you like show boating .

This was simply about if its right or wrong to destroy anothers property.Rather than what it has become- a debate on the unlikely outcome of empowering the police force.

I think they do a hard job, im not one and dont want to be. My brother BTW is a teacher so im not anti teachers either.

Bulli:
sorry ATT but by allowing it you condone it.

att:
I see exactly where Bob is coming from, it is easy to understand if you have an open mind, unfortunately many peeps in this country have had their minds washed and closed......By the state, for the state.

That is the reason he makes the analogy, that is all it is at the moment, but I think you will find he is not alone, there are many current Statesmen of this country who do share the same opinion, Anthony Wedgewood Benn is one, just off the top of my head....There are many more who beleive we have already moved into a totalitarian regime.

Go back 20-30 years, see how it was then, go forward another 20-30 years....See if you like the picture, social conditions and regime are akin to compound interest........Open your mind, stand in somebody elses shoes for a change......The picture could be very frightening indeed.

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