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« on: January 03, 2007, 17:59:52 »
What is involved in fitting a 200TDI engine into a 90 TD?

how long should it take? how much could i expect to pay for a good 200TDI? will i need to change anything else?
I would like to think i am a reasonably competent DIY mechanic but i have never worked on a landy before so i thought i had better ask the people who have, is there anything else i need to know that i havnt asked?
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2007, 18:23:32 »
easy basicaly.
what vehicle is your donor coming form? if it is a defender tdi then everything will just swap, engine for engine, rad/intercooler for old rad.
if it is a disco 200, there are a few minor mods you will have to do. the disco flywheel housing needs a few of the stud and bolt holes re tapping and studs re positioning, dont worry all the holes are in the right places, you just have to tap where necesarry. the old TD mounts fit straight onto the tdi block so that is the engine physically in.
this is where the difficulties start. some of the disco parts, hoses etc are different in length, so new parts will be needed or fabricated. the turbo assy on disco engines is in completely the wrong place but can be used with a conversion downpipe. it will all go, and is definately worth the effort. that is the basics, and questions just ask! hope that helps.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2007, 18:32:37 »
I havnt got a doner vehicle yet as i didnt want to commit without knowing the facts, like i said im new to landys so like a berk i thought all 200 TDI's were identical ::) has the 200TDI got electronic management or is it a good old fasioned engine?

how much should i expect to pay for a good one?

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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2007, 18:51:44 »
no electronics on a200tdi, or 300 tdi for that matter. just needs a starter motor and some derv. my favourite.

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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2007, 19:07:14 »
nice and easy  8)  thats how i like it  :wink:

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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2007, 19:48:41 »
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no electronics on a200tdi, or 300 tdi for that matter. just needs a starter motor and some derv. my favourite.


unless its a latter 300  :wink:  
200tdi disco got slightly more power over the 200 defender engine aswel, if you fit it the way ive done and not used the steve parker convesion, mines got origional elbow and i aint cut the bulkhead  :wink:
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2007, 19:53:14 »
stoke on trent aint that far from me, maybe i could interests you in giving me a hand if i do it :wink:

please  :D

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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2007, 20:53:45 »
DOH  ](*,)
yea sure gets me away from mine and the new project for a whilst  :lol:
pm me if you do need a hand
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 05:53:51 »
Thank you kind sir, dont panic IF i do it it wont be for a while  :wink:

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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 15:48:32 »
Quote from: "thebiggreenthing"
Quote from: "guardian off road product"
no electronics on a200tdi, or 300 tdi for that matter. just needs a starter motor and some derv. my favourite.


unless its a latter 300  :wink:  
200tdi disco got slightly more power over the 200 defender engine aswel, if you fit it the way ive done and not used the steve parker convesion, mines got origional elbow and i aint cut the bulkhead  :wink:
 dan

mee too, had 19J inlet manifold machines with new flange, works a treat. (pic to follow)
dont forget to tweak the pump for TD5 eating power! :D
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2007, 17:39:24 »
i didnt use one of them either  :lol:
mine runs std pipe  :lol:
and urrm i wishtd5 power  :wink:
but cant have everything
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2007, 09:39:18 »
What sort of costs would you be looking at for a conversion?

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2007, 12:37:26 »
see there a defender engine 200tdi on ebay, bloke offering to fit it for 300 sheets.  on 700 quid at present
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2007, 17:00:04 »
Will be watching closely as i am wanting a 200 tdi for my TD 90. does anyone know where i can get a 200 tdi from in west yorkshire. cheers.

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2007, 17:35:23 »
the best place to look is under the bonnet of a 200 TDI defender  :lol:  :lol:

only joking, theres a couple on that auction site at the mo, but you may have to travel to get them.

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2007, 18:13:13 »
definately not buying one off ebay

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Re: 200 TDI engine convertion
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2007, 20:05:28 »
Quote from: "joker777"
What is involved in fitting a 200TDI engine into a 90 TD?

how long should it take? how much could i expect to pay for a good 200TDI? will i need to change anything else?
I would like to think i am a reasonably competent DIY mechanic but i have never worked on a landy before so i thought i had better ask the people who have, is there anything else i need to know that i havnt asked?
Thanks.


I thought it was easier to fit 300tdi discovery engine into 90 as engine mounts in correct place, and you can use the manifolds from the discovery, where the 200 tdi exhaust fouls the inner wing or bulkhead.
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Re: 200 TDI engine convertion
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2007, 20:27:43 »
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What is involved in fitting a 200TDI engine into a 90 TD?

how long should it take? how much could i expect to pay for a good 200TDI? will i need to change anything else?
I would like to think i am a reasonably competent DIY mechanic but i have never worked on a landy before so i thought i had better ask the people who have, is there anything else i need to know that i havnt asked?
Thanks.


I thought it was easier to fit 300tdi discovery engine into 90 as engine mounts in correct place, and you can use the manifolds from the discovery, where the 200 tdi exhaust fouls the inner wing or bulkhead.

na its easier to fit a 200 disco engine as you use the TD engine mounts & it falls into place,you could throw the engine from 10 feet & it would land in roughly the right place for the mounts,the 300 engin sits ina totaly different place to the 200 & is slightly more work to fit
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2007, 11:41:29 »
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you could throw the engine from 10 feet


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