Topic: Help me I don't know what I am doing!!!!!!! (Read 5209 times)

NiceBlueWellies · « **on:** April 03, 2006, 17:21:50 »

So got the Disco 300Tdi now and it ran lovely when I tried it out.

But now!!!!!!!

Loads of stinking smoke - so bad the kids think it is highly amusing that they can't see out of the back window on the way to school, then me to work. Not so bad when it eventually warms up.

On the subject of warming up - my coolant keeps disappearing! Changed (Cliff did, not me) a gasket on the fron at the top of the engine, I have no idea what it was, but it came in the box for the thermostat, (numpsy that had it before didn't do it right), and also changed the thermostat, as that had been done wrong too! Had a good drive out yesterday, and it worked fine, but then on the way to work this morning, it overheated. Looking in the chamber when it cooled - there was very little coolant.

Any idea's?

Paul · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2006, 17:28:42 »

Disappearing coolant and smoking would make me think head gasket. :(

Thrasher · « **Reply #2 on:** April 03, 2006, 17:29:46 »

Any overheating?

NiceBlueWellies · « **Reply #3 on:** April 03, 2006, 17:40:45 »

The needle goes up and up and up and up. Engine v. hot, no heat inside the car though! Good job it is not winter, lol.

NiceBlueWellies · « **Reply #4 on:** April 03, 2006, 17:42:43 »

Puzzles me as to how it ran perfectly before. Saw it at the garage next door to where I work, and it went through it's mot fine. No problems on emmission at all - I quizzed the mechanic.

Drove it 2 days later and it was fine then too.

2 days after getting it home - smoke!

discoman · « **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2006, 17:45:07 »

i would say head gasket has gone

Sharpshooter · « **Reply #6 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:12:23 »

Did you measure how much coolant went in when you did the thermostat.?
You could have air trapped in the coolant system.

Also, why was the thermostat changed?

Pike · « **Reply #7 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:14:24 »

Have you checked to see if you have an airlock in cooling system,could be why your heater blows cold,but sounds like a headgasket to me,OH DEAR

Pike · « **Reply #8 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:15:39 »

if head gasket has gone it wont affect the mot result

NiceBlueWellies · « **Reply #9 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:21:58 »

Filled the coolant up to the level yesterday, and was all but gone today. Filled it back up again and got a little hot air in the car, but then it started blowing cold again! We did think of an air lock. No obvious drips anywhere and no steam from anywhere that I can see either.

Changed the thermostat as the one that was on was not fitted correctly and was not sure if it worked either. Better safe than sorry in that case.

Bl@@dy Land Rovers, lol. :lol: :lol:

Thrasher · « **Reply #10 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:24:45 »

Initially as you've worked on the cooling system I will go for airlock. The classic and obviosu Head gasket failure on the rear cylinder is easy to spot - run the engine with the oil filler cap off. If it chuffs like a train...add some money to the purchase price :( or go and get the coolant analysed ;-)

NiceBlueWellies · « **Reply #11 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:34:22 »

No film in oil, hummy sound (rather a nice note) with feul filler cap off and engine running. Tappets tapping as speed up revs.

Journey of 20 mins after leaving my mums to home, then school to home (10 mis travelling) and the coolant had disappeared!!!!!! Is the coolant fairy stealing it?

Thrasher · « **Reply #12 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:35:06 »

Check the passenger footwell :(

NiceBlueWellies · « **Reply #13 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:37:46 »

for what?

oil or water?

or a dead passenger?

Thrasher · « **Reply #14 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:39:39 »

Coolant

Wanderer · « **Reply #15 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:40:15 »

See if Cliff has dropped his wallet and use his dosh to get it done :lol:

All of the above. Water mainly from the heater exchanger.

Ed

NiceBlueWellies · « **Reply #16 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:40:46 »

footwell is dry, and no dead passengers either!

NiceBlueWellies · « **Reply #17 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:46:37 »

Engine is ticking over and smoke is coming out of the exhaust. Took the cap off the radiator and bubbles are coming out. Could be an air lock, but that doesn't explain the smoke.

I love my car!!!

Thrasher · « **Reply #18 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:47:22 »

Well if is not falling out of the thermostat housing, or the back of the water pump, or a hose or the heater....it's burning it :(

NiceBlueWellies · « **Reply #19 on:** April 03, 2006, 18:56:53 »

Just took oil filler cap off again - engine been running constantly now - as we could see something ssmoking/steaming under the shroud. Would appear to be steam, and filler cap has white slime on it.

Think it is the head gasket! :(thinkhard):

Thrasher · « **Reply #20 on:** April 03, 2006, 19:05:01 »

If it using *that* much coolant *and* you have white slime.....thne sorry to say it does sound like the head gasket.

However, short runs in humid/cold weather can also produce the same in the rocker....not normally associated with coolant loss of this degree tho :(

landraver · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2006, 19:14:49 »

Think you're right to say its the head gasket. If the engines been running a while, put your hand a couple of inches from the tail pipe for a few seconds, if its soaking wet after that time, then you're right :(

Jeff

Xtremeteam · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2006, 19:28:12 »

Quote from: "NicePinkWellies"

Engine is ticking over and smoke is coming out of the exhaust. Took the cap off the radiator and bubbles are coming out. Could be an air lock, but that doesn't explain the smoke.

I love my car!!!

ITs defo a head gasket,when mine went pop it was exactly the same

NiceBlueWellies · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2006, 20:04:21 »

The drive looks empty now - Cherry has gone to a man who can! :(

Oh well, at least there is space for my Primera again, lol. :lol:

Digsit · « **Reply #24 on:** April 07, 2006, 20:48:07 »

**UPDATE**

Dr Neil removed the head and sent it off for crack testing...........

Its a scrapper

Good news is that Dr Neil also managed to source a complete recon head in Birmingham which Julie and Charity went over and picked up today.

More bad news is that Charity decided to collapse a wheel bearing on the way home :?

Anyway here are a couple of pics I took tonight at Dr Neils sanctuary for poorly landies. Tomorrow, all being well, we will put Cherry back together before I sort Charity's wheel bearing 'situation'.

Digsit · « **Reply #25 on:** April 09, 2006, 19:17:43 »

Right then chaps..........

Now that Cherry is up and running I had time to replace the suspect wheel bearing on Charity. All changed ok but not cured the problem :?

Julie said that Charity suddenly pulled to the right before starting to make a repetetive thumping noise which gets worse when steering both left and right.

Any ideas??? :-k

Rangie3.0LtrDan · « **Reply #26 on:** April 09, 2006, 19:20:06 »

if its front then i would say CV joint, cos that happened to me!

Digsit · « **Reply #27 on:** April 09, 2006, 19:21:24 »

Feels like front and is worse when steering. How can I tell which side may have gone?

Rangie3.0LtrDan · « **Reply #28 on:** April 09, 2006, 19:23:48 »

turn the steering wheel with someone listening at the front, and listen for the grinding noise, but it sounds like exactly what happened to me when my CV joint went!

Digsit · « **Reply #29 on:** April 09, 2006, 19:36:07 »

Ok..... just been outside in the snow :shock:

Definate noise when turning steering wheel from left to right. More of a creak than a grind. Then a loud graunch when I reversed to park up!!!! :?

CV Joint then?

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