1st prosecution

[old joe]

Hi All

hope this hasn't been anybody on here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/mid/8677422.stm

Dazza

[dxmedia]

Brilliant news  :clap: :clap: :clap:

[redhand]

Brilliant news  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Absolutely  Few more prosecutions & the Thick Ignorant Morons will get the message. That or lose they're vehicles.. 

[Saffy]

How about the authorities do their job rather than the public doing it for them. What instruments are in place to prevent false vindictive reporting via that web form?  What effect would crafted bot net hammering on that form have - 10,000+ reports a day?

[gtomo2]

Just hope other "groups of people that enjoy the countyside" Dont use it to try and get legal lane driving people like us done.

[Disco Matt]

I can't help but think that it isn't a good idea to make it this simple to report people. See, at present those of us who have the knowledge and experience to recognise illegal behaviour also know exactly who to approach with evidence. The forms give every bobbly miseryguts the chance to tie up Police time and public money investigating alleged offences that turn out to be people acting lawfully.

That said, from what I've heard the Police cannot take action without photographic evidence, as otherwise it's one person's word against another's. If they say that photos/videos need to clearly show the alleged offenders behaving illegally and with enough of the background to positively identify the location then it cuts the chances of malicious reports dramatically.

I am not impressed with the idea of "hotlines" as they will attract nuisance callers such as the sort who buy a house on a ROW and then waste thousands of pounds of council money by waging a one-person campaign to have it closed. By all means use them to work out where your next sting should be, but if you're getting lots of reports from one phone number then it's more likely to be NIMBY than a serious problem!

[redhand]

I don't see the problem with it. It isn't any different from the Crimewatch hotline. At the end of the day if you're trespassing or driving on land not forming part of a public highway. Then you deserve to lose your motor.

[Bob696]

It was 3 trial bikes on Sarn Helen. A road that many of us drove pre NERC. It was criminal for the government to remove that right.

[carbore]

I saw someone walking thier dog, playing fetch with it across a newley plated potato field (just coming out, now flattened)

Is there a hotline or form for that?

[Lumbering Jack]

I saw someone walking thier dog, playing fetch with it across a newley plated potato field (just coming out, now flattened)

Is there a hotline or form for that?

No - but there should be

[lurch_917]

so i take it from this that sarn helen is now a no go area ?? then why do some big named clubs still run trips round there ??

[Bob696]

so i take it from this that sarn helen is now a no go area ?? then why do some big named clubs still run trips round there ??

About 1/3rd is a BOAT (with seasonal TRO). Other sections are now restricted Byway (Ex RUPP) but are also on the list of streets and are hence duel status so it is another 'grey route' that NERC created. Some say you can and some say you can't. Legal minefield.

[gtomo2]

Still think that the police will end up getting fed up with trying to sort out all the pics to find out if its a legel lane or not as you know how good some of the bobble hat brigade are at map reading When they stop you and ask why you are driving on a footpath  :roll:

[lambert]

just a thought, could one get legal aid to defend this action by dint of proving the illigality of the redesignation of the byway to 'restricted' e.g. an infringement of ones human rights under the right to roam act?

possibly?

[Range Rover Blues]

Just a thought, well ppipe dream really but our lovely shiney new gov't has suggested that we can nominate stoopid acts passed under the liebour gov't to have repealed.

I think they are trying to get a cheap referendum on fox hunting which they promised to repeal and may now not want to, but would it work on NERC?