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Range Rover Blues:
£20 on flea bay buys a "chewing gum" camera, size of a packet of chewing gum, self-contained battery and memory, plugs into the 'poota later on to download, easy to gather evidence discretely if that's what it takes.

I know there are precious few jobs about at the moment, but if you are driver then your employer should value you more than the monkey who stack boxs in your truck.

If it comes to tit-4-tat though, I've a ton of dog cronk you can liberaly spread on his car/head/lunch in return for the spitting.  An endless supply in fact.

He's probably jealous or inadequate, maybe he wanted your job but couldn't pass the test, hardly your fault but some folks have a twisted logic.

Don't just put up with it though, it is harasment and if your employer fails to take action, that's constructive dismissal.

I can only wish you luck!

Sider:
I had a run in with a monkey driver's "mate" a few years back In his case it was a case of "my normal driver goes faster" "my normal driver reverses better", etc, etc... In the end I told him that if he wasn't happy with the way I drove, to either get a licence and drive the blinking wagon himself, or to sit down, buckle up and shut the heck up. Didn't talk to me more than the strictly necessary for the following 2 days.

Couple of weeks later, I discovered that another driver from my agency had had dealings with the same monkey driver's mate (gee, officer, my subconscious, I swear). In his case, he actually chucked him out of the lorry, somewhere near Reading (lorry based near Dunstable). I was green with envy. Pity it didn't occur to me  :twisted:

Just look at it this way: You are working doing what you like, and earning a decent salary, while he is on minimum wage hating you for it. Now tell me who is the miserable git.

Jay_disco:
all these legal paths do work mate. best thing to do firstly is make people aware you aint yourself. if that means no smiling etc then do it. make people think there is something wrong with you......"i think he is losing it". give them that impression. then see your boss, again. this time hand him a copy of a written letter of whats going on. keep your original copy for evidence.state he has 7days to sort out the problem. if nothing gets done,take in an outside representative(maybe someone with knowledge of the disciplinary system etc). then take your rep in the office with you. then get your boss to pull that @*%!*@ in the office.explain to them you have got no joy in the situation, and its either this way or you will be taking legal action.

other tha that you could go the doctor with stress from work. tell him you wanna kill the guy then put in a nice big claim for bullying and neglect and whatever else they are guilty of.

in the meantime id say nowt to him apart from psychological mind games. like mention that noone has spit on your motor for a while,maybe its cos they have started talking rubbish now.maybe even drive slower.tell him you aint in the modd so you need to concentrate or it could get him injured. lol. there are lots of indirect ways to get him back. good luck

muddyjames:
I have spoken to the guy running the agency I went with on Monday. First of all he totally forgot who I was on the phone. Good start!

He didnt realise I drive the bin lorries and got a bit excited when I said "yes for 14-15months now", he could offer me 4days a week at 10 hour shifts which would pay more than I am on at the council and with no grief from loaders and less hours a day than I am currently doing. Being agency would there be that work though? Summer coming so work would pick up. Would he remember I cant do over night runs due to Sandy?

He said it is best for me to go in on Monday and chat to him properly and he can tell me the pro's and cons. Cons being not much work sometimes? as long as it averages out at 4days a week I would be happy.

I did say, "I thought you were sending me out on my own on Monday" to wich he replied "oh, erm, yeah, I dont know what needs covering until friday or saturday" Which is fair enough. I said I would call him on friday to see if I am being sent out on me own or going in for a chat. If it all sounds good then I can walk into the council and handme notice in and good bye muppets! :-)

your thoughts please people. Is agency work just too risky?

muddyjames:
I blew my fuse at my loader today. Here is what happened.

*what actually happened*
The peak was when we are supposed to take boxes back up a tiny road (5 houses) and he refused to take them so I called my boss to confirm we cant leave them at the end of the road. Boss confirmed. Loaders still refused so I took them back. They then started hooting the horn at me. I got in the cab and 1 guy said cheers ... See moreJames (in a sarcastic voice) to which I said "I'm not doing it again for you" andmy loader said "nor are we". The next road has a very long reverse so the loaders were in the cab. dead end single track lane. going past a house with a jack russell barking outside and silent in the cab. Then my loader shouts at full volume youwp (trying to be a jack russel barking) but it sounded like ouch. I thought I had hit someone. I then realised it was him. I kept going to the top of the road. On the way back down he did it again. At that point I blew. I slammed the handbrake on. Lorry skidded to a stop, loaders looked shocked, I turned and quietly shouted, "shut up you knob". At that point he started his whole come on then if you want a fight. Lets go out side. I said if he wants to go out side that is fine by me but I wont be getting out myself. I was hoping he would stay there and I could get rid of him! I even pointed to my chin and said "here we are hit it then". He didnt. what a shame.

it did no good what so ever. it just meant he pushed my head about, came within inches of my face telling me if I did it again he would hit me and watch my step out side work as he will hitme. I said go for it. Hitme now if you like. He declined the offer. Every time I look up the road towards him to see where he is, he just shouts back, "what you ... See morelooking at?" Spoken to my boss and he is moving him off my round on Tuesday. I did tell my boss I was going to hand my notice in tomorrow and he said he didnt want me to do that. If the same thing carriers on with new loader then I have to change my attitude the boss said. Lets hope next guy is better. I know he works quick anyway.

He kept saying I know your going to dob me in so phone the boss. Go on then, go on. I said no, lets get the round done and talk to the boss together and sort it like adults. He just declined and said he has a life unlike other people and wants to get home. He rang the boss in the end. My boss called me later to see how much I had left to do and he wasnt that fussed. I spoke to the boss when I got back and he is moving him off my lorry from Tuesday onwards.

I am still going to look for other jobs and I told my boss I was going to hand my notice in tomorrow anyway and he didnt want me to do that or loose me as I am a good worker. Aprently I should have returned back to the office after he refused to take the boxes back as he would have got a disaplinery for it. Damn it!

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