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We are being so screwed....
dxmedia:
New <> reliable by a long stretch.
A direct injection mechanical diesel engine (isuzu 2.8? Diahtsu 2.8?). That's reliable.
A sensor heavy common rail with 5 ecu's keeping it running? Na designed weak points.
Petrol engine with CPS, MAF, Lamba and simple fuel injection, that's reliable.
Known good repuation manfuacters.
Give me my 4.0 jeep over any landrover any day.
Give me a 4.2 landcruiser 80 over any 4x4 any other day.
Boggert:
--- Quote from: dxmedia on November 24, 2009, 11:01:32 ---New <> reliable by a long stretch.
A direct injection mechanical diesel engine (isuzu 2.8? Diahtsu 2.8?). That's reliable.
A sensor heavy common rail with 5 ecu's keeping it running? Na designed weak points.
Petrol engine with CPS, MAF, Lamba and simple fuel injection, that's reliable.
Known good repuation manfuacters.
Give me my 4.0 jeep over any landrover any day.
Give me a 4.2 landcruiser 80 over any 4x4 any other day.
--- End quote ---
Yeah right not sure what the last bit is about but what I'm saying is I need something that is not going to cost me 500pa to tax, that is about 3 years old and I can drive to Czech... seems the sentiments of a few is we should only drive old 4x4's. I'm not talking about something I will take laning just a reasonable4x4 for every day use.
mike142sl:
The Tax jumps up to £400 + from 56 plates I think, I've got it in my mind that 55 plates are the last to avoid the stinging tax bands. My 04 is still just over £200. So a 4 yr old 55 plate may be a compromise - after all it sounds like a compromise is what you are going to have to make if you are unable to jutify the costs of anything newer.
V8MoneyPit:
Ultimately, the reliability of a modern, complex, vehicle comes down to the quality of the components. There is no reason why any sensor shouldn't last 100,000 miles. The problem is we all demand cheaper cars and the manufacturers (well, some of them anyway) are forced to use poorer quality components to keep the overall cost in check.
Buy a cheap car (or any other product for that matter) and you run the risk of reliabilty issues.
We were dissapointed with the Arosa, being built in Stuttgart on the VW line, we thought it might be a good buy. But the electrics proved poor.
Of course, just because a car is expensive, doesn't mean it is built with good quality parts..... just look at Mercedes' reputation for poor reliabilty in recent years.
It's a minefield out there!
Boggert:
Yeah True, the Merc ML you would think would last for a long time, however it built in America and is rubbis.
Where my mate has a Kia 4x4 and its brilliant, great off road even in the heavy stuff and never let him down.
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