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Pay and Play Recovery gone wrong

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mass199:
It's always good to have a sensible mate who you can trust when you need recovery.

Some people i wouldn't trust and would rather dig myself out with my bare hands!

Bishops Finger:
Without knowing facts its 99% impossible to offer a view other than you should help other wheelers out when needed...

ChrisW70:

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--- Quote from: Disco Matt on November 02, 2009, 16:52:24 ---I've probably missed it but do we have a recovery techniques guide on here?

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Unfortunately, in these days of Health & Safety and litigation, it's something we can't really publish.

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I have one I wrote a few months ago, could it not be published AS A GUIDE, not as a definitive bible so to speak.

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Sorry, I should have made myself a bit clearer - technically we can't publish 'the mud club guide to recovery' but if someone wanted to start a thread along the lines of 'I'm stuck in a ditch - what's the best way to get recovered' sort of thing as a theoretical discussion...

carbore:
Not that id given it much thought, but having not done a pay and play, but having done a lot of track days in the Elise I sort of expecteed them to operate in a similar way.


* Booked in advance, instructions sent before hand.
"Drivers Briefing", everyone in a room and told the rules and ettique including overtaking on left and only by invitation, no overtaking in braking/corners,  what to do if you crash or brake down, what the marshals do etc.
Drivers HAVE to attend the briefing to get a wrist band
No wristband no track time
If your late, you get a personal briefing and then a wrist band
Recovery by approved people, we.g. dont stop by your mate whos had a crash, thats the marshals job
Sign the disclaimers
*

Obviously 4x4 pay and play dont have overtaking, but surley a similar apprioach is wise for example


* You dont have to be recovered by anyone other than a marshal if you dont want to
If someone is stuck in your way, tough, wait for them to be recovered by a marshal (or friend with thier ok)
You have to attend a briefing
You know what to do if you get stuck
You knwo what to do if someone is injured
You know where to drive and where not (e.g. dangerous thing linke mieshafts, I know about them i live in cornwall!)
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Id hope this sort of thing happens?

I dont want to sound like the man form H&S but this is basic stuff, track days (like Pay and play) are not even motorsport covered by the MSA so most of this is just common sense or the track day company pleasing thier liability insurance.

Interestingly at a few trackdays there is some bloke who turns up and gets arsey durin the briefing saying, hurry up, we know what ere doing etc, often they are the ones who end up in the crash barriers.

Mark_Solesbury:

* £20 on the gate
* Drive
Thats more like what happenes on a p&p day.

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