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driving about without a tax disc?
« on: February 18, 2009, 09:31:56 »
because my life is both busy and complicated my olds are buying my rfl today howeve they are in the next county so, if as may be the case i need to go out in the disco(which is sorned) befor i see them to retreive the actual disc can i, or am i obliged to display it in the car?
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 09:38:29 »
If you get caught you may face a fine for "Failing to Display" the disc, sorry.  :(
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 09:42:38 »
aslong as the vehicle is shown as being taxed on the ANPR then they cant do much, (ideally you should display but because so many people order their RFL on the internet, they allow you to use the vehicles for upto 5 days with out Displaying)
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 10:00:45 »
With regards to a conversation with the police a friend had on this subject whilest the RFL is in the post you can park the vehicle on the road but not drive it until it is displayed in the screen.

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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 10:49:39 »
With regards to a conversation with the police a friend had on this subject whilest the RFL is in the post you can park the vehicle on the road but not drive it until it is displayed in the screen.

Utter BS if you paid for it then use it, but if thats the case why did i not get a telling off or a fine when i was stopped a few months ago for failure to display, i had the piece of paper to say i had paid it online,

easiest thing to do is if you do get stopped, claim when you left the house this morning you thought you had the disc and was going to fit it when you got a minute and that you have only just realised it was still at home, and you are going to get it, they dont need to know you have just left your house heading for your parents,
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 11:23:10 »

Steady on Ben, no need to get upset about it, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to read it how they see the law, just as no two police officers would necessarily see it the same way, its open to individual interpretation.

The rules used to be such that you could get a fine if you weren't displaying the disc, as far as I know there hasn't been a change in that, maybe someone nearer to the actual point of law could enlighten us once and for all.
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 11:34:30 »
There was this discussion a while ago on here, and it was pointed out that failing to display a tax disc is an actual offence.  I think it was written actually on the tax disc (i have one here so going to look now)


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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 11:44:52 »
This is the tax disc from me retaxing me Fiesta yesterday.  As you can see in the bottom right corner there is a little note about the legality of displaying the tax disc, i.e. dont and you can get fined £200



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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 12:00:04 »
The offence is failure to display.

I had a tug by the  :police: when the tax disc was on the dash board, and not flat against the windscreen. They couldn't see it, and thus were going to do me for failure to display  :shock:. It was only after promising  [-o< to securely fix the disc with a proper holder, and a temp tack with tape they let me on my way without a ticket!

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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 12:20:08 »
a few years back me and my mate were stoped and my mate got dun for not displaying his tax disk
problem was sum person had nick it of his bike and my mate did not no till he got pulled
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 13:07:56 »
right ill just print that Tax disc off, then write my own reg on it they'll never know


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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 13:31:29 »
we know what serial numbers go with what cars and tax discs !!!
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just to clarify boys and girls  :police:

the offence is "failing to display"

you wanna use another vehicles or write on one then display that in your vehicle, as has been suggested - thats fraudulent use and i'll nick ya !!!!!!!

the DVLA now gives 5 days grace to cover the posting of VEL's but the system will tell us if you have paid or not, if you have and not received it carry the email receipt with you in case stopped

its the DVLA that will sting you with thousands of £'s in fines once we submit the paperwork

you've been warned !!!  :police:

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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2009, 14:32:44 »
Oh c*ck! After reading the thread i went and looked at both Jeeps discs. They BOTH ran out 30th Jan!!  :doh:

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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2009, 14:52:45 »
expensive month for you then lol


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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 17:40:13 »
ok thanks all. as it turns the need to use it never arose so no worries!
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2009, 18:23:39 »
easiest thing to do is if you do get stopped, claim when you left the house this morning you thought you had the disc and was going to fit it when you got a minute and that you have only just realised it was still at home, and you are going to get it, they dont need to know you have just left your house heading for your parents,

However, if you get stoped by the police and they decide to check - it will show on the system as not taxed and it will also give insurance status! I wouldn't risk it.

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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2009, 18:53:19 »
expensive month for you then lol

Nah, Cherokee will get motted and taxed, Wrangler's getting SORNed. Can't stretch to both, Wrangler needs more than a litle TLC anyway.

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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2009, 20:18:06 »
OOO,

Don't even contemplate it, I got a tug cost me a shedload of do$h and I was only 24 hours out of date! :evil:
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2009, 21:04:19 »
My tax disk is in my wallet and has been for 7 months .... best get around to puting it in the window I guess.
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2009, 23:23:41 »
I was pulled over in my TAX EXEMPT 2a, without realising I had the old one in front of the new one :doh:

So this copper says he is going to write me up for failure to display! I kept it polite and said that yes it was my fault, but as I don't pay for the disk surely its a bit ?? to do me for the failure to display?

I then had to explain what tax exempt was and how it works!!! And he then let me off with it :dance: :dance:
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2009, 14:08:30 »
when i had my old toyota supra i got fined £150 because the tax disc was in the center of the windscreen behind the rear view mirror it should be placed on the l/h side of the windscreen apparently!
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2009, 16:32:18 »
advert on radio the other day stated that you are covered as soon as you put the phone down if you can still be done for not displaying then trading standards need to be told
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2009, 18:10:39 »
we know what serial numbers go with what cars and tax discs !!!
big brother watches

just to clarify boys and girls  :police:

the offence is "failing to display"

you wanna use another vehicles or write on one then display that in your vehicle, as has been suggested - thats fraudulent use and i'll nick ya !!!!!!!

the DVLA now gives 5 days grace to cover the posting of VEL's but the system will tell us if you have paid or not, if you have and not received it carry the email receipt with you in case stopped

its the DVLA that will sting you with thousands of £'s in fines once we submit the paperwork

you've been warned !!!  :police:


Thats how I see it too but you could still be done for failing to display unless any one can quote the chapter and verse that says you can drive a vehicle with out one on display?
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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2009, 18:48:48 »
Trading standards cant do owt as DVLA is a government body lol


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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2009, 20:06:17 »
You did ask .........


The offence is derived from the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 (c. 22).

Not exhibiting licence


(1) A person is guilty of an offence if—

(a) he uses, or keeps, on a public road a vehicle in respect of which vehicle excise duty is chargeable, and
(b) there is not fixed to and exhibited on the vehicle in the manner prescribed by regulations made by the Secretary of State a licence for, or in respect of, the vehicle which is for the time being in force.

(2) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 1 on the standard scale.

(3) Subsection (1)—

(a) has effect subject to the provisions of regulations made by the Secretary of State, and
(b) is without prejudice to section 29.


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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2009, 22:04:52 »
 :? :? :? :?hi all this is now worrying me ,i live in northamptonshire,i have a discovery with no v5 document because it was written off(only dented wing)so i phoned the dvla to ask about the procedjure on how to get it back on the road ??they told me to get it mot,d then take it to be vehicle checked at peterborough when i asked about tax i was told it would be okay a long as it was booked in(ANYONE LOAN ME A TRAILER :( :()

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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2009, 11:59:26 »
Apparently if you get a transit and put a set of wheel trims on it , you don't need tax.  :) :)

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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2009, 14:45:20 »
:? :? :? :?hi all this is now worrying me ,i live in northamptonshire,i have a discovery with no v5 document because it was written off(only dented wing)so i phoned the dvla to ask about the procedjure on how to get it back on the road ??they told me to get it mot,d then take it to be vehicle checked at peterborough when i asked about tax i was told it would be okay a long as it was booked in(ANYONE LOAN ME A TRAILER :( :()

Slightly different situation because until it is inspected you can't get a tax disc, so that is allowed, but you must carry the appointment letter and only use the most direct route and not go shopping on the way.

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Re: driving about without a tax disc?
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2009, 16:06:03 »
when I taxed my car onlone the other day when I completed the transaction it said I have up to 5 days into the month to run around on the old disk to allow for the new disk to arrive in the post.
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