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Lord Shagg-Pyle:
I agree with Saffy on this one. Take it when a charge has been laid. It is becomeing too much of a 'Orwellian State'. More CCTV cameras than you can count. A legal system that lets down the Public. Not good.

Yoshi:
See, i find that very odd coming from an officer of the law LSP!

Surely you would like everyones details on file, so that when you find an abandoned car thats crashed into someone, its been stolen and the driver is nowhere to be seen!

lee celtic:
Aaarrr but anybody that has been caught and charged and found guilty will still be held so the odds of catching repeaters through dna is still good....

and unsolved crimes the dna will be kept so if they catch them later it will still stand...

waveydavey:
I see the point but look at the other side;
There are hundreds of old crimes been cleared by these DNA samples being taken - really evil people.
Some of it is very clever as well; you get pulled for something minor, they take your DNA and find it similar (not identical) to one from an old case of murder or child molestation. That points in the direction, they look at the rest of your extended family and find a distant relative is identical and then all the other evidence fits.

OK I don't like the Government having too much (Especially Gordon) but if holding my DNA may get somebody who is a genuine danger to my girls off the streets then its a small price to pay really.

Lord Shagg-Pyle:

--- Quote from: BadgersRover on December 05, 2008, 17:12:27 ---See, i find that very odd coming from an officer of the law LSP!

Surely you would like everyones details on file, so that when you find an abandoned car thats crashed into someone, its been stolen and the driver is nowhere to be seen!

--- End quote ---

As mentioned, I don't have a problem with DNA samples being taken from someone who has been charged, but since the rules have been changed in relation to arrest, more and more people are being pulled in for offences that weren't previously arrestable. The database gets bigger and bigger by day and can't cope with the number of samples being put in.
Whats the next step, DNA samples taken at birth?
Don't get me wrong, there have been an awful lot 'cold cases' solved by DNA hits, and I dare say there will be an awful lot more if you consider that DNA samples have been kept from virtually all murders and other serious offences from years ago, as the scientists knew that technology would catch up.
It won't be too long before technology is in place to take DNA samples at the road side, and that could increase the numbers even more. It would be interesting to see the reaction of the the Public, on being asked to open wide and have a sample stick swabbed around their mouth.
It is a very contentious issue and will continue to be so.
Over the years that I have been in the Job, there have been numerous acts of law brought out by succesive Governments to stop the tide of crime, which I and colleagues have had to implement, but which have made no difference at all to the situation in this country.
As for the the bit of holding everyone's details being on file, you'd be surprised as to what is already held! It is very scary. Retention of personal data is always a worrying thing. The Nazi regime were masters at it, as were the KGB and the Stazi in East Germany.
Its how it is used that bothers me, especially when you have the likes of local Councils being able to put people under surveillance.
What is needed is a more robust system where justice actually means justice, where the underdog is helped by a Police Force that is there, willing and able to help, as opposed to chasing round after pointless statistical targets, at the beck and call of a psuedo 'caring' Government, who come up with ideas to try and win votes.
I don't know quite why I have such a phobia against it, considering I submitted my DNA and prints when I joined the Job.

Sorry for the negativity, but I've just finished another run of nights where the local populace showed itself to be more than capable of hitting the self destruct button. :roll:

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