AuthorTopic: 300tdi auto sluggish  (Read 1257 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline axeman

  • Posts: 12
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
300tdi auto sluggish
« on: November 25, 2008, 22:14:09 »
hi...
i have a little problem with my 1996 300 edc auto.... when i start it warm it takes a few seconds before it will recognise the throttle pedal and when it does i can plant the throttle and again a couple of seconds (infact the time it takes for the turbo to boost) then we are off.... it gives me no problems whilst driving only when i stop and try to go again...

i have changed fuel filter, lift pump, water temp sender... if i put a resistor inplace of the temp sender it lifts the revs slightly on tickover and it is better but the fact i changed this tels me it's not the problem.... can anyone help???

my last resort will be to replace the EDC with a good old mechanical pump....
300 tdi Disco....

3.9 V8 disco

Offline JIMBOBLY

  • Posts: 402
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2008, 23:05:22 »
sounds to me mate,it could be the throttle pedel its self,cause that is electronic too,but he price of a throttle pedel,you may be better off converting it,if you can.

Offline axeman

  • Posts: 12
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 23:20:25 »
you are right with the pedal being electronic, but when it is cold everything works as it should..
300 tdi Disco....

3.9 V8 disco

Offline ChrisW70

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 785
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 08:42:02 »
if i put a resistor inplace of the temp sender it lifts the revs slightly on tickover and it is better but the fact i changed this tels me it's not the problem.... can anyone help???

What about the temp sender in the head itself - thats linked to the EDC isn't it?
Chris W

West Midlands Region GLASS Rep
GLASS TRO Officer

Offline solihull-mick

  • Posts: 986
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 14:32:17 »
Stu sell it and buy a defender,  :dance:
300 TDI Commercial Disco, ( Recovery & Parts Hack )
Series 2A Hybrid TDI( Bessie)
Mk1 escort RS2000 (my baby)
MK6 Fiesta Zetec s (wife gets the brand new car)

Offline 300TDi Disco

  • Posts: 412
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 14:59:38 »
Stu, I know a man who is selling a 110. 
Let's Ave It.
One Life, Get One

Peugeot 206 XS
Fiat Ducato (work van)
Disco 300TDI


Offline axeman

  • Posts: 12
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 17:02:49 »
great help you lot are....lol.


i would love that 110 mick but just had my mooring fee for the year...... forgot all about that one... another grand gone :cry:
300 tdi Disco....

3.9 V8 disco

Offline Range Rover Blues

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 15218
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • South Yorkshire
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008, 20:39:02 »
I'm not very familiar with the EDC but I know ot gives you more power than the mechanical pump in standard trim.  That's not to say you can't tune a mecanical to the same or better, plus the injectors are a fraction of the price.
Blue,  1988  Range Rover 3.5 EFi with plenty of toys bolted on
Chuggaboom, 1995 Range Rover Classic
1995 Range Rover Classic Vogue LSE with 5 big sticks of Blackpool rock under the bonnet.

Offline axeman

  • Posts: 12
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2008, 22:48:00 »
it seems that not many people out there know much about EDC... think i best source a pump...
300 tdi Disco....

3.9 V8 disco

Offline Range Rover Blues

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 15218
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • South Yorkshire
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2008, 00:24:42 »
It's a pump, injectors ,the little pipes and a throttle cable.  Can't think of much else that won't become obvious.
Blue,  1988  Range Rover 3.5 EFi with plenty of toys bolted on
Chuggaboom, 1995 Range Rover Classic
1995 Range Rover Classic Vogue LSE with 5 big sticks of Blackpool rock under the bonnet.

Offline solihull-mick

  • Posts: 986
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2008, 15:42:17 »
Stu as you well know my background in EDC, the system is no different from the high presure side there on, pump works as the mechanical one does, the only electronic part is the throttle control, the only reason land rover used EDC on later auto models was to get the emissions correct, no other reason, best bet as you say, remove the EDC pump, fit a mechanical pump, ive does this in the past with no problems, remove the TDC sensor and bin it, remove the MAP sensor and bin it, repipe as a normal 300 TDI,

But im sure sombody on here will tell you otherwise, but you know who to listen too,  :dance:
300 TDI Commercial Disco, ( Recovery & Parts Hack )
Series 2A Hybrid TDI( Bessie)
Mk1 escort RS2000 (my baby)
MK6 Fiesta Zetec s (wife gets the brand new car)

Offline Range Rover Blues

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 15218
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • South Yorkshire
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2008, 21:50:58 »
Mick, aren't the injectors different on EDC? I know the non EDC ones are way cheaper as I've replaced a couple of sets.
Blue,  1988  Range Rover 3.5 EFi with plenty of toys bolted on
Chuggaboom, 1995 Range Rover Classic
1995 Range Rover Classic Vogue LSE with 5 big sticks of Blackpool rock under the bonnet.

Offline solihull-mick

  • Posts: 986
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: 300tdi auto sluggish
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2008, 10:48:40 »
Range rover blues your a correct, the injectors for non edc are ERR3339 x4 the injectors for edc are 3337 X1 and ERR 3348 x 3, hope this helps stu
300 TDI Commercial Disco, ( Recovery & Parts Hack )
Series 2A Hybrid TDI( Bessie)
Mk1 escort RS2000 (my baby)
MK6 Fiesta Zetec s (wife gets the brand new car)

 






SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal