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who is going to set up a petition for top gear

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Eeyore:
A heartfelt point, but watch the language, please   ;)

However, if folk feel strong enough to complain to the beeb, then let them do so. They have as much right thier say as them that support the programme.

L200 CARLOS:
yeah sorry about that  :oops:   :doh: :evil:

Eeyore:

--- Quote from: L200 CARLOS on July 22, 2008, 21:10:38 ---yeah sorry about that  :oops:   :doh: :evil:

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Hey, don't worry about it  ;)

apology accepted, and appreciated  :thumbup:

Tommo:

--- Quote from: Eeyore on July 22, 2008, 21:02:26 ---Okay. I'll now assume you're being serious

Lets see if this makes sense. If you drive, without permission, on private land, you are commting a criminal offense and risk a whole plethora of fines and punative measures (vehilce seizure etc). Hunts get away with for a host of reasons, gamekeepers generally have permission.

Driving than other than on a byway, without the consent of the landowner isn't 'funny' - its illegal and therefore can't be supported by this forum.

Like I said above, several high profile prosecutions have been made as a result of such behaviour.



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yes, i understand your point and agree that topgear should have put more thought into what they did. But the point i was trying to make is not that there isnt anything wrong with it but that there shouldnt be anything wrong with it. We do it all the time, say you lose a few cows out of a dodgey gate, so you jump in the landy and you go scouting round for your cows. Its a spread out but still quite intimite community and the chances are you know the local land owners very well, and you know that they dont give a toss about you looking for your stock in their fields. Now often you have to drive up on to the moors to find your stock, i dare say you not supposed to by law but what else are you supposed to do? if the cows are walking faster than you can then your not getting anywhere on foot!

Its all very well someone in a city somewhere making laws saying that you cant drive somewhere just because some selfish people want to walk it purely for the good of their health (even though nearly every main road has a perfectly good pavement you can walk on that hasnt been erroded by vehicles) but what happens to the people who need to drive it occasionally?

So if walkers can walk on vehicular rights of way and claim that the vehicles are annoying them so they must be banned then if we drive on old footpaths can we say that walkers keep clogging up out sump guards so they must be banned?

It all comes down to tolerance in the end, i dont mind slowing down or whatever for a dog walker, but they never seem keen to move over for me.

Eeyore:
I'm quite happy with it being illegal, as it stops people going where they want, when they want.

If there's cows going stray, I can imagine that the neighbours might be quite pleased for 'em to rounded up (personally, I prefer doing it on foot, but thats me). However, try asking these neighbours if they mind someone wheelspinning across there land for no reason, 'cos I tell you what, they sure as hell wouldn't want me doing it.

And many, many farmers and landowners feel exactly the same, hence prosecutions and compensation being paid.

Much as though a thought provoking point has been raised, my point still stands, this club cannot be used to promote something as fun when it is a criminal activity.

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