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waffle boards
redhand:
--- Quote from: glaggs on July 12, 2008, 10:51:08 ---The 'Floor grating' off cuts as you call them come in different specs yes. But if you buy from someone who knows the spec then you should be OK as all floor gratting is designed to given safety specs. My contact can get 38mm gritted or un gritted and these have a spec that will support a 2 1/2 tonne vehicle across a 1' gapp easily. He can also get 50mm in gritted or un-gritted and heavey duty 50mm which we are told will support 25 tonne over a 1' span. The advantage of the off cuts as you call them is that with in reason you can specify width and length and my contact can supply. So if you want a short length or even small off cuts for you Caravan to sit on he will do them as well as lengths longer than normaly suplied. No comparrison test have be done I agree but the industrial flooring is of similar or higher spec than other waffle boards out there. The only proof we have of their capability is that several teams in the Howling Wolf Challenge series are now using 38mm waffles supplied by my contact. I have even spoken to suppliers and they admit cutting up larger sheet for some of the countries leading 4x4 suppliers who then sell it on as bespoke sand ladders.
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Yep that is exactly the point I was making. Most of the floorgrating manufacturers will also sell you Sand ladders and at a Fraction of the cost of most of the 4x4 suppliers.
Jake:
--- Quote from: redhand on July 12, 2008, 11:28:09 ---
--- Quote from: glaggs on July 12, 2008, 10:51:08 ---I have even spoken to suppliers and they admit cutting up larger sheet for some of the countries leading 4x4 suppliers who then sell it on as bespoke sand ladders.
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Yep that is exactly the point I was making. Most of the floorgrating manufacturers will also sell you Sand ladders and at a Fraction of the cost of most of the 4x4 suppliers.
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You have proved your knowledge knows no bounds. Waffles (or whatever ) are useless in sand and have never been sold as sand ladders :lol: :lol:
Muddyweb has thrown the gauntlet
--- Quote ---Since you are going to be at Billing, just wander over to our stand, (you don't even need to speak to anyone so we won't try and influence you or sell you any), and look with your own eyes at the waffles. They are different to the floor grating offcuts... they have sealed edges.... they are longer than most of the grating offcuts sold... the surface finish is different to the floor grating material..... and yes, they are more expensive.
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Prove us wrong (but you wont). Then i'll show you what sand ladders look like followed bythe Maxtrax sand recovery system
There is a big giveaway as to who's waffles are off cuts....(this is a trade secret here so take note) If the waffle measures 4ft long, its an off cut. Any longer, its been specially made. Dont forget your tape measure when you come to Billing ;)
Muddyweb has some figures regarding strength and so on but i dont feel its worth posting them, it wouldn't make any difference in this debate.
I've noticed that Redhand obviously knows his stuff. Next he'll say that all the worlds springs come from the same factory, all the winch bumpers are made in china, snorkels are all assembled in Taiwan and all of the worlds vehicles come from the same manufacturer which he will be able to prove without actually proving it :roll:
This has been a fun thread with some non factual egg throwing followed by factual information followed by more expert analisis
I think it should now be settled at the bar :twisted:
:dance:
muddyweb:
--- Quote from: redhand on July 12, 2008, 11:28:09 ---Yep that is exactly the point I was making. Most of the floorgrating manufacturers will also sell you Sand ladders and at a Fraction of the cost of most of the 4x4 suppliers.
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Um... not quite. The point you made was this.....
--- Quote from: redhand ---What you see on the 4x4 scene are the cut offs from the end of a production run or batches with a colour flaw or just a surplus left over from an order. cut to size and sold as waffle boards.
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Which is factually incorrect and what Jake originally objected to.
If you are now saying that some of the 4x4 suppliers use offcuts and sell them for more money than you can buy them direct from the manufacturer.... well, I can't argue with that... I don't have sufficient factual information to do so. What I can confirm is that we don't. Hope to see you at Billing for a glass of Devon cider.
redhand:
--- Quote from: Jake on July 12, 2008, 19:12:09 ---There is a big giveaway as to who's waffles are off cuts....(this is a trade secret here so take note) If the waffle measures 4ft long, its an off cut. Any longer, its been specially made. Dont forget your tape measure when you come to Billing ;)
Muddyweb has some figures regarding strength and so on but i dont feel its worth posting them, it wouldn't make any difference in this debate.
I've noticed that Redhand obviously knows his stuff. Next he'll say that all the worlds springs come from the same factory, all the winch bumpers are made in china, snorkels are all assembled in Taiwan and all of the worlds vehicles come from the same manufacturer which he will be able to prove without actually proving it :roll:
This has been a fun thread with some non factual egg throwing followed by factual information followed by more expert analisis
I think it should now be settled at the bar :twisted:
:dance:
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That's funny because floor gratings are manufactured in 10' x 5' or 3mtr x 1.5mtr and I have seen 5' offcuts. Why you feel the need to personalise this debate and start making childish insults is beyond me. I can only assume it's an attempt to draw peoples attention away from the fact that people are been ripped off.
Jake:
--- Quote from: redhand on July 13, 2008, 09:44:46 ---Why you feel the need to personalise this debate and start making childish insults is beyond me.
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Because for some reason you refuse to believe that there are more than one manufacturer of waffles
We have repeated the information over and over but you're still implying that we're lying for some big rip off (which is a personal insult towards us)
--- Quote from: redhand ---I can only assume it's an attempt to draw peoples attention away from the fact that people are been ripped off.
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By some 4x4 suppliers, may be, Just not all (including the one I work for)
Thats all we've been trying to say but for some reason or the other you just cant get your head around that fact.
Hence why i said
--- Quote from: Jake ---you must think all the worlds springs come from the same factory, all the winch bumpers are made in china, snorkels are all assembled in Taiwan and all of the worlds vehicles come from the same manufacturer
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