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waffle boards
muddyweb:
--- Quote from: redhand on July 13, 2008, 09:44:46 ---Why you feel the need to personalise this debate and start making childish insults is beyond me. I can only assume it's an attempt to draw peoples attention away from the fact that people are been ripped off.
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I haven't made any personal insults towards you. I have answered the questions you posed and presented information. The fact that you have chosen not to believe the information I have offered is your lookout and your choice.
There are different types of "waffles" available on the market. Some are the by-product of a different application (flooring off-cuts), and even in this application there are a number of different grades of material used (take a look on the website you posted earlier)...
There are also products specifically produced to be a waffle which are not off-cuts. I prefer these products... they have sealed edges, they have a good surface for vehiclular use and I believe that they are stronger... from a supplier perspective they are also better because we can ensure consistency of supply and specification.
The key thing here.... You need to be careful about making such sweeping statements in writing on a public forum unless you have some actual evidence to support what you say... as yet, I have seen no evidence other than your own supposition that what you have stated is true (i.e. that all waffle boards from 4x4 suppliers are just flooring off-cuts and hence a rip-off).
You have challenged us to prove that your statement is incorrect, but I'm afraid the world doesn't work like that... you can't just go making allegations with no proof to support them and challenge people to prove they are not true...
As I've said before... some people will buy waffles from us, some won't. The vast majority of people who do are buying them for situations where they want to feel confident that the product will not let them down, and that is what our customers tell us.
I've used both specifically formed waffles and grating offcuts in a number of situations including challenge competition and overland travel... it's part of my job to research things like that to see if there is something we are missing in our product line. Both work and do the job, but I found that the moulded waffles were tougher and more resilient to abuse. If you are only ever going to use them on the odd occasion (for example on a greenlane or pay & play site), then the off-cut types are probably fine.
You can make of that whatever you will, but please refrain from hurling any more sweeping statements around unless you have something to back them up.
Dr Evil:
I know which Two people I'm going to listen to........... :lol: :lol:
glaggs:
Redhand - if you knew some of the margins that suppliers work to you would realise that far from being ripped off, these people do it because they love the 4x4 world and not to become millionares. As for the Waffles - yes wander round and make an informed choice - I'll be helping my contact on the LRS stand and we've no problems showing off the waffles. They will be 'reasonably priced' but if you think they're not up to the job feel free to see what other people have. LRS don't hide the fact that their waffles started life as a large piece of industrial flooring - but we will demonstate there capability, as I'm sure other suppliers will also be willing to do.
redhand:
--- Quote from: glaggs on July 14, 2008, 22:15:18 ---Redhand - if you knew some of the margins that suppliers work to you would realise that far from being ripped off, these people do it because they love the 4x4 world and not to become millionares. As for the Waffles - yes wander round and make an informed choice - I'll be helping my contact on the LRS stand and we've no problems showing off the waffles. They will be 'reasonably priced' but if you think they're not up to the job feel free to see what other people have. LRS don't hide the fact that their waffles started life as a large piece of industrial flooring - but we will demonstate there capability, as I'm sure other suppliers will also be willing to do.
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I don't have a problem with offcuts they get my vote everytime. Ok so certain suppliers get there waffle boards tarted up as bit. but they have the same breaking strains and load bearing capabilties, as floor gratings.
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muddyweb:
--- Quote from: redhand on July 14, 2008, 22:19:15 ---Ok so certain suppliers get there waffle boards tarted up as bit. but they have the same breaking strains and load bearing capabilties, as floor gratings.
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Please share with the group..... Please show us the figures for load bearing, deflection and ultimate breaking strength for floor grating and for our waffles. Your turn to come up with some proof.
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