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Boggert:
--- Quote from: diggerdog36 on March 08, 2008, 09:23:36 ---Yeah, I can see what youre saying Boggert (obviously you are a PC) but the britains laws are in a shocking state. Look at the Tony Martin case in August 1999. Why cant people protect their own properties. The law was chaged years ago that you could lethal force to protect property.
Why not, its my property and they are breaking the law, so let me defend it even if it means taking their pathetic life......Its the only way that will stop them........I bet no one has broken into to Tony Martins house again!!
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I'm not saying you should not be able to protect your own property, I think you should be able to, but it must be a measured response or there will be a lot of people killed and the excuse will be they were on my land.
The justice system needs looking at not the laws, we are seeing people getting community orders for serious assault and assault police. Drug dealers are getting community orders for cannabis cultivation, for gods sake, these people need to be locked up for a few years.
We have a prolific car thief, who we lock up he goes to court and gets 3 weeks then is back out stealing cars again, he is banned from driving x4 and just keeps getting banned again when we catch him, what hell good is that?
It frustrates me as we are locking up the same people time after time for theft, crim damage, breach of ASBO and the courts just let them off with slap on the wrist.
I got assaulted while helping a colleague arrest a violent drunk, it was on CCTV punching my mate in the head and kicking me 4 times, I got a face full of CS as we restrained him. Now that’s part of the job I guess so you accept that, but what bugs me is CPS looked at all the evidence and CCTV and decided not to go with it... WHY?? they just said "Not in the public interest"
Do I have to be killed or nearly killed on duty before they get locked up?
Now I like my job and are not complaining but you guys have to understand the Police are as frustrated with the law as the public are.
Bush Tucker Man:
--- Quote from: Boggert on March 08, 2008, 09:54:02 ---It frustrates me as we are locking up the same people time after time for theft, crim damage, breach of ASBO and the courts just let them off with slap on the wrist.
I got assaulted while helping a colleague arrest a violent drunk, it was on CCTV punching my mate in the head and kicking me 4 times, I got a face full of CS as we restrained him. Now that’s part of the job I guess so you accept that, but what bugs me is CPS looked at all the evidence and CCTV and decided not to go with it... WHY?? they just said "Not in the public interest"
Now I like my job and are not complaining but you guys have to understand the Police are as frustrated with the law as the public are.
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Got to agree, the Officers we see (& speak to), be they Traffic, Response, or even CID are all cheesed with spending their time/resources nailing these people for the case to be dropped, or a paltry sentance imposed.
We too get the 'Not In The Public Interest' phrase bandied about.
When I had my nose broken by one of the junkie scum-bag patients, it was touch & go as to whether he got a custodial (especially as he had lots of previous 'form' for assaults)
He got 18th months suspended, still not seen him back in the department for the 'return match' :lol:
--- Quote from: Boggert on March 08, 2008, 09:54:02 ---Do I have to be killed or nearly killed on duty before they get locked up?
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Unfortunately it seems to be the case :( :( :(
If it was a Cabinet Minister who got assaulted in a town centre, the offender would undoubtedly be slammed awayfor years!!!!
diggerdog36:
It is all down to the CPS, I was arrested over some thing that was clearly above board with paperwork to prove it. There were 2 directions hearings, a trial, witnesses from all over the country. Must have cost a fortune, then I was found Guilty :shock: :shock: :shock: Sentenced to 10 weeks and fined £2000......then I took them to the courts of appeal with the same evidence in my defence and won!!! Now why couldnt they come up with that verdict originally. It would have saved thousands.....im happy, im buying a TD5 with my compo for wrongful conviction :lol:
strapping young lad:
best way to get coppers come running
state issue to the 999-ers
when they say they will send someone round... say
no its ok ive got a rifle and ill sort it out myself, start making some clicking noises and put the phone down
cue... nee naw!
TDi90:
:shock:
what stupid advice. :evil:
they come round take your guns away from you, take your licence away from you.
good one. not.
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