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Evilgoat:

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Pretty soon they'll be risk assesingf war zones, and accounting for each shot fired.


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Pretty sure Police have to already. Theres a good write up here (yes its an IT site) about why he was shot so many times and with that ammo. You have to remeber what they thought they were dealing with, you dont want to 'wing' someone with a bomb, they have to be stopped dead and fast!.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/16/de_menezes_dum_dum_explanation/

thermidorthelobster:

--- Quote from: "Evilgoat" ---Sorry but can I stop you here.
If you hear 'Stop! Armed Police' and run, sorry, you asked for it, you were warned. No sympathy here, its a terrible shame and a waste BUT he was challenged. The case does not sdipute this and has little or nothing to do with it. Would YOU leg it if you were challenged?
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Yeah, actually that's a fair point.  Maybe I've been biased by the BBC reporting of the whole thing;  it's come across differently in the news reports recently.  On the other hand, there's plenty of coverage of the key police failings.

However, taking on board the fact that the guy may have brought it upon himself, if the police are judged by a jury to have made numerous errors which led to a death, why should I pay for that, when the people involved get away with it?

L90OOK:
The Police & Military have strict 'Rules of Engagement' that are drilled into them.  I am sure these would have been adhered to...in fact I haven't heard that these are in question??  The guy should not have run...simple as that...I know I would have pulled the trigger if I had challenged the guy & he'd run.
We had a couple of good sayings...survive to fight...&...better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.

As for the minister on his phone...string him up by the larger of his two testicles & make an example out of him.
If I can afford a car kit for my mobile I am sure he can!  :evil:

Biodiesel-Bev:
Put yourself in their scenario....

You're an armed plain clothes police officer, you're following someone who has been identified to you as a suspected terrorist.  You and your collegues follow this man to a tube station.  You challenge him, you shout "Stop, armed police" several times and the man makes a run for it into the tube station and onto a train.  This occurs within a couple of weeks of 4 terrorists blowing themselves and innocent people up... maiming, injuring, killing innocent people.  
You believe that this man is a terrorist, he may have an explosive devise on him, he won't stop no matter how much you shout, he's hell bent on escaping from you, why?  Your heart is beating fast, is he going to blow himself, people on the train and now you to pieces?  What do you do?  Wait til he triggers the bomb or stop a possible massacre.

How many of you on here would want to find yourself in that police officers shoes?  How would you have dealt with it.  I know what I would have done.

thermidorthelobster:
Yebbut I'm not disputing that (see my post above).  My point was that the Met Police have been found to have made serious mistakes (listed in link above) by a trial jury, and they're being santioned by being forced to spend my tax money as part of a fine, whilst no individual is being held responsible for those errors and punished.

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