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Lord Shagg-Pyle:
The simple answer is 'litigation'. If per chance we carried out First Aid and ended up with someone who did not make it, the Job could be sued.
Moral duty does not come into the equation.
Again, if the Government actually listened to the bods who do the jobs, they would realise that all the issues could be resolved, but then the various quangos/ commitees/ steering groups would be out of a job.
Another example is changes in road layouts. Statistics are needed to show the road is dangerous, which means that people have to be injured or killed before something is done!
andycwb:
--- Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle" ---The simple answer is 'litigation'. If per chance we carried out First Aid and ended up with someone who did not make it, the Job could be sued.
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Doesn't the UK have "good samaritan" legislation that basically means a first aider can't be used unless they overstepped the bounds of their training. If I (as a trained first aider!) break a few of your ribs doing CPR, that's your tough luck, but if I attempt a tracheotomy "because I saw it once on Casualty" then I deserve to be sued!
Lord Shagg-Pyle:
--- Quote from: "andycwb" ---
--- Quote from: "Lord Shagg-Pyle" ---The simple answer is 'litigation'. If per chance we carried out First Aid and ended up with someone who did not make it, the Job could be sued.
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Doesn't the UK have "good samaritan" legislation that basically means a first aider can't be used unless they overstepped the bounds of their training. If I (as a trained first aider!) break a few of your ribs doing CPR, that's your tough luck, but if I attempt a tracheotomy "because I saw it once on Casualty" then I deserve to be sued!
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That I don't know, but it sounds interesting. The problem then comes down to the standard and level of training. How could that be quantified and assesed?
Hang on, put the idea up to Government and watch them set up a study/steering group to look into it, then a department staffed by needless office wallahs getting paid loads and we might get some sort of answer in 5 years time. Simple!
crazymac:
I can see the litigation bit, bosses don't want to pay out :roll:
Thing is... I'm a coastguard, We turn up to incidents with bleeding casualties, non breathing casualties etc and we provide 1st aid till the paramedics get there, thing is that can be 100ft down a cliff!! so we need to stabilise then recover and hand to the ambulance.
sometimes the cas doesn't make it :( thats life unfortunately, but we are trained to do it
There was a case elsewhere in the country where the coastguard team provided cardiac massage until the paramen=dics got there and defib'd the guy, but in the process cracked a couple of ribs, He survived but then tried to sue.............this made it all the way to the courtroom until the judge gave this guy a right dressing down and told him if the team hadn't done what they did then he wouldn't be here!!!! so sod of out his court!!
If that happened more often then perhaps we would not be in the poo we are!!
Lord Shagg-Pyle:
Blimey! A judge who used common sense to make the right decision!
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