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« on: September 09, 2007, 22:59:25 »
I'm getting fed up with picking out the Series mod parts in amongst all the others adverts in the Land Rover mags, and on the net. Surely there is a Series mod specialist somewhere? If anyone knows it'll be Mudclubbers  :D
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2007, 15:34:02 »
I cant help  :?

But you are right!  Its very annoying.  There are some very knowledgeable people out there but it appears that the Series stuff doesnt generate the money?  

Anyone?   :roll:

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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2007, 16:44:00 »
Maybe i should buy some steel and get the welder out?

Rocksliders anyone? lol

I bet my mother would have a fit if i started production up in the back garden.  :lol:
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2007, 00:08:22 »
It's a thought though!...................can't find 'em anywhere! Best I can come up with is a sump guard from Scorpion Racing  :(

Looks like I will be getting the welder out again!  :roll:
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2007, 00:23:48 »
Sadly enough i have a few sketches in place for roack sliders, Bumper mount spot light bracket, Front panel spots brackets and was thinking the other day of making my own tank guard.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2007, 00:30:08 »
Basically, all the type of stuff a series off roader would be thinking about, but can't get hold of easily :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2007, 23:26:03 »
http://www.mill-services.com/ do rock sliders (http://www.mill-services.com/html/sillbar_catalogue.html), seem em on a S3, they look smart, some others do them too though can't remember who. There was someone selling some they had made up on ebay too a while ago through mud-club though can't remember the details, or even how accurate what I've just said is.

There aren't enough people advertising though, probably due to the small audience compared to coil sprung things. I would more like to see tank guards than rock sliders though, what use are they (apart from looking cool), if you actually used them to slide on, you would rip your petrol tank in two!

The serious off roader (like Devon-Rover) would have their own welder and probably make up stuff they *need*.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2007, 13:13:07 »
I have some on my SIIA i will take some picks and post for you to see. not sure of the make as they were already fittred when i got it but they may help.

Most of the other bits are home made or adapted that i have seen. it's as if everyone has a 90 :)

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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2007, 20:03:27 »
Quote from: "Bob Ajob"
I would more like to see tank guards than rock sliders though, what use are they (apart from looking cool), if you actually used them to slide on, you would rip your petrol tank in two!

The serious off roader (like Devon-Rover) would have their own welder and probably make up stuff they *need*.



Well for your first question.



they do come in usefull for going around trees and also rocks and banks of earth that do get in the way. But yes you do have to make sure that they lean the right way and are not about to rip a hole in the tank.
I have used mine on a few occasions now to turn a bit tighter, A little disconcerting the first time you do as it's not a normal thing to deliberately drive into a tree and then continue to do it. as the landy pivots around.
I have on the passenger side sat the slider on a earth bank and continued to 'slide' over it as i went. Something i wouldn't of done if it was the drivers side because of the tank.
I might get some 5 mill steel sheet and experiment with making a tank guard, It would probably mount on the chassis using the spring bolt, and somewhere on the body outrigger.  but then needing another hole forward of the chassis side near the tank outrigger to take most of the stress. The 3 bolts at the front of the tank would probably be used too. but i do have concerns about the structural strength of them as they are made of thin metal. Last thing i want is the product to fail and to do more damage and to ultimately rupture the tank causing a fire risk as well as environmental problems, Multiply that with a very irate owner because it has failed.

In the idea world though i would sell the guard only in the kit with the rock sliders and make it bolt to the them. as it would use them as support.

Now question 2.

Serious offroader maybe.  :wink:  But i'm just wise with money and would rather make something or get a mate to knock something up to do the job than pay loads for the same privilege and get it from a shop.

and BTW they make changing wheels Sooo much easier than faffing around with a trolly jack.

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2007, 11:51:55 »
Deven-Rover,

Nice truck!!  8)

Sliders does = easy jacking.  I like the idea of tank guards - keep us appraised if you have a go...  I will have twin tanks so am keen to come up with something  :wink:

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2007, 15:41:47 »
but becareful not to knock landy off a farm jack - don't ask me how I know :oops:
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2007, 18:06:39 »
Been there seen it. lol.

The opposing wheels are chocked.  :wink:  I still think it is more stable than when having the jack under the bumper.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2007, 22:57:12 »
i no it is only one mod but last time i went to craddocks they had quite a few steering guards for the series motors, i might go tomarro so i will get a price. it is true though any mods you want you have to fabricate yourself, and to do that you have o be able to weld.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2007, 00:49:39 »
Quote from: "Devon-Rover"
Been there seen it. lol.

The opposing wheels are chocked.  :wink:  I still think it is more stable than when having the jack under the bumper.

Definitely steadier than bumper but still a little dodgy or maybe just my technique! :oops:
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2007, 00:56:21 »
IMHO go for HD steering bars. Steering guards are not a favourite of mine due to their nature to ride up and over and then hook itself onto the offending object.

Each to one's own.

There is a small market of people making bits for series motors but the prices are high as it is small production runs.

Rebel craddocks - steering guards

Mill services - Rock sliders.

Paddocks - HD steering bars, light bar.

All four wheels - Light bar.

All the above cost a wee pretty penny too. And as above no one makes a tank guard.

I do have sketches to hand for a tank guard and also for a belly guard, there is also ideas and i do have prototypes of two different spotlight mounts for the front. For motors with a winch or not.
Unfortunatly i don't have the time or the resources to make such items as i wouldn't be 100% sure that they would sell and for me to break even on the money front.
Like everything i do i need to test them to see how they last.
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2007, 11:17:41 »
Rowan,

HD bars I have, still thinking about lamp mounts...

Once my truck is mobile again then perhaps we could investigate tank guards?  Share the cost/risk?  Think a coooperative would work?  Economy of scale  :?:

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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2007, 12:46:43 »
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Rowan,

HD bars I have, still thinking about lamp mounts...

Once my truck is mobile again then perhaps we could investigate tank guards?  Share the cost/risk?  Think a coooperative would work?  Economy of scale  :?:



I know someone who could get them made  :wink:

Devon-Rover if you wanted to share your ideas sure we could sort something out... and I know Johnathan would be interested so could have them fitted to his Series when I get it back together!!  (would protect his aluminium tanks  :wink: )


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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2007, 13:42:28 »
I'll see if i get a chance later on today to have a look under mine and do some measures, will have to wait as well as i would have to check it against my little brothers landy as his is a early II so the tank is different.
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2007, 13:46:30 »
Quote from: "Devon-Rover"
I'll see if i get a chance later on today to have a look under mine and do some measures, will have to wait as well as i would have to check it against my little brothers landy as his is a early II so the tank is different.


Sounds good....

I'd also be interested the mods you've done to your suspension if you wanted to share - as I know it flexes quite a bit on standard springs  :wink:


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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2007, 14:19:16 »
The suspension is all explained Here on my website I'm very tempted to put that set up on a Para shod landy and then see what i goes like.
Work has stopped at the moment for the front as i've run up against the problem that extended shackles alone means that it will affect the castor angle and the UJ angles on the front prop.  :?

And you will notice that there is a few piccies of my landy running the lamp mount that i think would sell as it means you don't have to buy an A bar and it just bolts through the bumper bolts.

Like most thing it's time and cost.  :roll:
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2007, 15:16:00 »
your website is awsome mate!! i think i may have to give that "off the shelf"kit a go you should start selling them as a package :D  :D
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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2007, 15:22:28 »
Thanks for the feedback.

I have all the part numbers. and a local supplier who could sort me out at trade prices.

Now thats an idea. lol  :idea:

I'll go away now and consider selling offroad bits for the series market.
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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2007, 21:03:45 »
once you have built that empire rowan, don't forget to chuck a kit my way :D  8)
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2007, 01:31:57 »
Well concessions will always be given for those doing developmental work  :wink:

lol.  :lol:
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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2007, 17:57:52 »
I'm looking at a few weeks then i'll be able to go to my mates workshop to build a prototype.  8)  

Now to the drawing board to design something to do the job.
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2007, 17:34:01 »
im an influence  :D
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2007, 18:27:35 »
quite like the sound of "developmental worker" :D
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2007, 17:24:55 »
any serious offroader would simply move the tank to a more ravorable location, like build one into the back of the tub.





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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2007, 17:53:36 »
Unfortunately for this Offroader i have a bed in the back of the landy so moving the tank isn't really for me.
And there is those who do offroad to a semi serious nature and like to take the family along in the back.

And given that some wouldn't rather go to the hassle of having to re route everything i think it is a goer.

Thanks for input welshbreed.

I shall be buiding a CCV trialer in a few years based on a leafer and yes that shall have the tank in the back.
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