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Front recovery points
drmike:
Agreed on all points although as a cheapskate I'd use a tow ball not a steering guard.
Mike
anaxemurderer:
I don't like Jate rings because they are too far down and under the vehicle, makes it an absolute sod to get shackle on when its actually stuck. Not too keen on tow balls either though as straps and ropes sometimes slip off them.
I'd go for steering guard and shackles provided they are of decent quality/design.
Bearing in mind the forces exerted recovering a 'very' stuck vehicle are much much larger than you think. Kinetic ropes can generate over 12 tons of force.
Nick
drmike:
And where will you buy a shackle rated to 12 tonnes? Well I guess 6 tonnes if you use two? Dingocroft do a 6t one at £16 but the pin size is pretty large, will it fit the steering guard.
I'm not being difficult but I think you guys are over complicating this - has anyone ever seen a properly fitted tow ball come away or break during recovery? I know I haven't.
I also found this.
http://www.blitz4x4.org.uk/play_safe.htm
Mike
anaxemurderer:
Never seen a properly fitted tow ball come away but have seen straps fly off them. It shouldn't be complicated, just got to be sensible about it. The rtv club i used to go to didn't like you using them for this reason.
12 ton shackles are massive, wouldn't fit through most tow points, the shackle isn't the weak point though. Just need to make sure they are decent quality.
Nick
ps anyone got an alternative to shackles, which can be used a bit faster but is still secure. Like a beefy karabineer?
drmike:
Given that most clubs I've been out with won't use shackles I'm not sure what you can use then!
Your point about the 12 t shackles was exactly the one I was making. All well and good saying use a steering guard but if you want to accommodate the 12t strain then you need 12t (or two 6t) shackles which isn't really practical.
Mike
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