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Front recovery points

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graham2306:
Just for your information JATE= Joint Air Transport Executive.  They design ways of securing loads in aircraft and despatching them from aircraft.  The JATE ring is designed as a lashing eye to hold the load down when being transported by air.

Graham

drmike:
But to be fair the JATE rings we know and love are far sturdier than simple lashing eyes surely. I thought they were rated at several tones?

Mike

stageonesimmo:
After-market ones may well be, but the standard Mil-Spec ones aren't.  I can look up the exact rating in the bible tomorrow at work, but essentially even the strongest rated rings going are only as strong as the bit of chassis they bolt through.  The strains and loads associated with the correct use of JATE rings - i.e. lashing or lifting are vastly different to those involved in pulling and will impart loads onto the chassis in directions that the JATE ring set-up was not designed for.

drmike:
So, that rtaher neatly takes us full circle and wondering just what teh best front recovery point is!

My vote still lies with a tow ball with a big spreader plate and the tales of them flying about will probably refer to badly fitted ones.

The steering guards seem to require the use of shackles which everyone says break and fly around. But if you buy correctly rated shackles, properly tested then they shouldn't unless you abuse them. I did some work for a company that undertook this testing and they said get the right kit and you shouldn't have any trouble.

I also did some work for a company who manufactured tow balls and some years ago a batch was made in South Africa as it happened that failed at a higher rate through being too brittle. These were being sold at some cost under all kinds of brand name.

I'd still go with a tow ball for most recovery situations.

Mike

stageonesimmo:
My money is on a guard and properly rated shackles.  Provided its a good quality guard and the shackles are rated and looked after then you should have no problems - I have yet to see a single shackle fail when used correctly in the correct rig and I've lifted/winched anything up to and including planes and Chally tanks..........

Having said that, if you actually do an EP (estimated pull) calculation for the average 'rover stuck in a mud hole' pull you'd prolly find that a WOLF spec bumper and pin or a tow-ball/swivel eye/NATO hithc are perfectly acceptable provided thay are all fitted correctly and as you say, most importantly fitted with a decent spreader plate so as not to rely on the usual landrover bumper mush material.........

This one could go round and round for years though as its a very personal and horses for courses type area..........

Thats my 2p anyway......

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