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« on: April 25, 2007, 21:27:41 »
hi fitted a second hand prop shaft in very good condition to my 200tdi defender 90 had probs with vibration from day one it has got worse so i climbed under to have a look both ujs are sound but are very hot to the touch also the propshaft is hot within 6 inches of ujs. rear prop shaft is fine eny ideas why this should happen would be appreciated ...Iain

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2007, 01:47:04 »
Have they been greased? how close is the exhuast? is the heat transfering from the gearbox?
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2007, 18:54:44 »
hi they have been greased and are in good condition the transfer box and front diff are cool to touch it is just the ujs and 6inch of prop shaft ajoining it is almost to hot to touch after only 5 miles    thanks for the reply  Iain

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2007, 18:56:33 »
id check the grease again... sounds like theres something binding somewhere? is the prop itself greased?

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2007, 19:01:01 »
ok thanks for that i will get grease gun out and give it a go  cheers Iain

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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2007, 19:04:40 »
give it a crack, cant be anythin too serious i wouldnt think... worst case would be heat from the transfer box, but obviously if thats the case you'll only have heat at one end? god knows... see what you find :)

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2007, 23:04:32 »
has the landy got a lift ?
if it has, the u'js will be close to there max operatinng angle which wil cause excessive heat build up,

also have you checked any of the radius arm bush's ect to make sure the axle isnt floating around (up/down) which will be changing the pinion angle, which is just like lifting the landy, makes the u/j's work at funny angles
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2007, 21:40:43 »
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has the landy got a lift ?
if it has, the u'js will be close to there max operatinng angle which wil cause excessive heat build up,

also have you checked any of the radius arm bush's ect to make sure the axle isnt floating around (up/down) which will be changing the pinion angle, which is just like lifting the landy, makes the u/j's work at funny angles

 yes the landy has a 2 inch lift and i think it is well due new bushes will look into this, im just amazed that the ujs get almost to hot to touch after only 4 or 5 miles i appreciate your help and will climb under over the weekend and have a good look around ,cheers   Iain

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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2007, 21:18:41 »
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has the landy got a lift ?

also have you checked any of the radius arm bush's ect to make sure the axle isnt floating around (up/down) which will be changing the pinion angle, which is just like lifting the landy, makes the u/j's work at funny angles


had a look under the old girl today bushes that conect radius arms to front axle are  well worn this would make sense as prob has got gradualy worse over months thinking about geting it polybushed any one got an idea to how much this should cost

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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2007, 21:44:06 »
dont, fit std lr bushes....mine just eats genuine polybushes, so gone back to std bushes, yes they a pig to fit....but ive got a press so nerrrr  :lol:  :lol:
so far aint had to replace a bush in 3 months, just 2 cv's and another front prop today  :roll:
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2007, 22:16:28 »
i have heard that before, cant remember where think ill stick with gen land rover bushes wont be fitting them my self so no probs there thanks for your help its much apreciated will let you know how i get on cheers Iain

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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2007, 22:53:55 »
its what us bunch of animals are here for  :twisted:

we all come across most problems at some point  :lol:  :wink:
keep me posted, afink it should cure it tho

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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2007, 22:59:49 »
i got to ujs that need replaceing if u wana do them liam mr uj expert
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2007, 23:02:54 »
pmsl matt not sayin nuffin  :P
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2007, 09:13:23 »
If you have a two inch lift please expect prop shaft problems. Some do some don't.

As for fitting suspension bushes. There's nothing difficult about doing that. We I've never had any problems and a lot of you seem to have access to better tools than me  :roll:
All I use is a hacksaw. A drift. A hammer. A lenght of screwd rod. What more is needed ?
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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2007, 18:03:23 »
can be done if you have a big vice aswel, but how i used to do them is cut the bush then hammer it out

ino some one on here who even changed a rear a-frame ball joint with a sledge hammer  :shock: no names mentioned....adam (disco-v8)  :lol:  :lol:
god i admire him for that, i had a b****** even with a 20t press  :shock:

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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2007, 19:30:20 »
its lack use making your ujs rusty so there getting hot. your spending too much time in the shovel drinking. :lol:
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2007, 22:51:03 »
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its lack use making your ujs rusty so there getting hot. your spending too much time in the shovel drinking. :lol:


 you could be right there mate but its such a lovely pub and a pint of lager is only £1.61 twud be a sin not to frequent it..... are you a regular there

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2007, 22:35:26 »
dont get in as much as i used to. hows that new rav4 going.
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2007, 21:11:08 »
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dont get in as much as i used to. hows that new rav4 g
oing.

the rav is going real good  its great fun to drive, i dont think i will take it off road though, will stick to the 90 its a case of horses for courses. to  many bits hanging down on the rav, think i could do a lot of damage

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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2007, 22:58:37 »
and white would be a pig to clean.
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2007, 23:06:56 »
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and white would be a pig to clean.

how did you know its white...you must be psychic , or you know me, come on who are ya :D  :D  :D

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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2007, 23:52:12 »
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2007, 18:45:44 »
ohhhh my god ive got a stalker  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2007, 11:38:22 »
have removed front prop and replaced a slightly worn uj greased it up had new bushes fitted to front radius arms and problem is solved so thanks for the input guys  :D  :D  :D

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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2007, 22:18:10 »
I have a 2 inch lift on my Tango. Now started going through props like the wind until I put longer ones on!!!! I have a rear on the front and a heavier prop something like a TD5 on the rear have not had problems since. Because the length has been changed.

I have been told the best way to sort the problem out is to get different radius arms fitted to compensate for the lift. This does lift the truck slighty higher aswell but they are not cheap have been told about £300

 






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