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Bob696:
--- Quote ---"It won't apply to repairs to power-points or putting spurs onto a circuit, unless you are working in the kitchen or bathroom area or outdoors, because electricity and water don't mix."
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Direct quote of Mr Hope. They ARE trying to price you out of working on electrics in your kitchen/bathroom.
But I agree, it is uninforcable. So why are they wasteing our tax money introducing it and the quango to oversee it (oooppppsss may have hit the nail on the bonce there)
muddyweb:
--- Quote from: "Bob696" ---Direct quote of Mr Hope. They ARE trying to price you out of working on electrics in your kitchen/bathroom
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No... they are trying to make sure that some Numpty who has watched changing rooms doesn't kill themselves, someone else, burn something down, or just cause a lot of inconvenience for their neigbours. It is shocking what some people consider to be "acceptable". And again, you can do the work, but it needs to be tested by someone qualified.
We all accept an MOT each year, because it has to do with our, and other people's safety.....
pritch:
Whilst I was initially against the idea (for selfish purposes, I must admit), I can see Tim's point of view here. I've spent some time working for an electrical contractor as a labourer for a bit, and some of the DIY stuff I saw was awful.
The thing about kitchens and bathrooms is that there are so many regulations to follow with regard to electical safety, that it's somewhat unreasonable to expect the average homeowner to keep up with them. For instance, did you know that your kitchen sink (not just the pipework, the sink itself) needs to be connected to an electrical earth?
The other day I had the pleasure of spotting a kitchen in which all the water pipes were earth bonded, but some numpty had gone and bonded the gas pipe as well. [-X
Bob696:
It is 10 deaths a year of people who are probably better off out the gene pool (Peanuts kill an average of 15 a year btw). They could probably save more lives by banning ladders over 6ft.
This argument is running dangerously close to "but 10 deaths a year is too many and could be so easly prevented", just like some of the arguments against 4x4s.
At what point do you say the inconviniance to many (and the cost to everyone) is worth the life of an idiot? If you decide that it is 10 per year then cars in general are in a whole heap of trouble as are rollerskates, skis, peanuts, pushbikes, buses and probably even the computer you are sat at now.
Ten deaths a year from a population of 60 million is nothing.
muddysteve:
--- Quote ---The other day I had the pleasure of spotting a kitchen in which all the water pipes were earth bonded, but some numpty had gone and bonded the gas pipe as well.
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Hmmm unless the regs have changed drastically in the last 2 years gas pipes have to be bonded aswell as the water pipes.
I think that these regulations are a great idea because lets face it electrics in your bathroom, nasty combination water and 240v, i've seen a normal 13 amp socket mounted on a bath panel so a bubble thingy could be used in the bath, how no one got fried in that bath is beyond me
just my 2p
Steve
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