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Colin 009:
I watched this show and these two women one who was from one of the groups and a loony journalist,
where shown up by Quentin Wilson as a couple of idiots. He confirmed that both hated the people who drive these 4x4s more than the cars.
There argument just did not stand up.
muddyweb:
Of course it didn't stand up.... it can't... it's a fallacy.
They'd have a hard time passing such a law in my view anyway... for a start, you could challenge it in the court of human rights... it's arguably discriminatory... and that's before you get into the whole tangled mess of what a '4x4' is... do they ban the Allroad, the Subaru Impreza ?
Range Rover Blues:
There is some truth about the amount of polution caused in building a car outweighing the polution it causes in it's life. Can't remember the exact statistic but I don't think you're too far off. Restoration is by far the most environmentally friendly method of recycling, but then the environment isn't the real issue, if the government wanted to save the planet they should ban cars altogether, trouble is motorists prop up the economy way too much and it's the manufacture of new cars and the scrapping of old ones that help part us from our hard earned and keep that money circulating, every time it changes hands of course they put their fingers in the till.
As for that cobblers about massive 4x4s, my Nissan Micra is 2 inches narrower than our RRC, and it's emissions are as bad, if not worse, than a landie running on LPG.
Range Rover Blues:
Just been reading their website, what a sack of s***e
To answer their comments on why I need to drive a 4x4
1, I am an advanced driver, a qualified ADI, but that hasn't stopped 3 people hitting me this year alone, even in the driving school car, it's the other guy you have to watch for.
2,I don't have a large family, I have 2 large dogs and a mountian bike, I'm also 6'2"
3,The weight of my 4x4 increases my stopping distance, rubbish. The weight gives me better grip. My car stops well within the recomended stopping distances shown in the highway code and has a current MOT.
4, I drive a car converted to LPG, it's size allows me to do this safely and it causes less polution than the minivan you would rather I drove.
5, I go off-roading, that's why I have an off-roader!
Glass is the only organisation I know about that actively restore the countryside (voluntarily) and repair rights of way. Walkers damage the countryside, so do cyclists and the worst culprit-horses. Never seen a hiker with a sack of limestone going up the peak district with a shovel though!
6,No MPV has as good a towing capacity as a Rangie, disco or Defender, plus the 4 wheel drive makes it much safer in the wet, towing or not. Especially as most MPVs are front wheel drive (oh dear, oh dear-oh dear).
7,I do tow regularly with my 4x4, precisely because I can't trust other people to do the job for me, and it's my right to make that choice.
8,My 4x4 is not japanese, it's british, built in Solihull and maintained with british made parts (if you believe the adds)
9, Ok I don't fish, but are you going to tell me how I can spend my spare time now
10,I'm not rich, hand up those of you who are? no, good. I spend my hard earned on our Rangie, because we have dogs we don't want to go abroad on our holidays so we drive a 4x4 instead.
11, yes it is my right to drive what I choose and as I pay about £8.50 in tax for every £10 spent on fuel I'm putting those kids you keep mentioning through the state school system, as well as paying for the hospital they were born in, some thanks wouldn't go amiss :wink:
Now, I want to know how many of these tree hugging hippies with their cornflake packet facts take foreign holidays. Did you all know it takes roughly 1 TONNE of fuel PER SEAT to get an airliner off the ground? I don't use that in a year, I can't afford it. But then I have to pay fuel duty on my fuel, airlines don't.
George:
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AMEN!!
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