Very Poorly Shogun

[Mudlark]

Yesterday on my way to a off-roading spree in Wales I came to a steaming halt on the M5 eventually being transported home on the back of a big yellow truck with yellow flashing lights :(  

Well I spent most of today - about 5 or 6 hours - taking the head off my Shogun to find:








I had a premonition about it being a piston      


Question is now - or rather tomorrow after pricing parts - is what do I do

The options as far as I can see are:

Replace piston and rebuild

Get replacement short engine (engine ex head) I should be able to source a 2.5 replacement here

Get replacement full engine - again I should be able to source a 2.5

A replacement car either SWB or LWB

All of these could well be around the same sort of price each obviously has it's own problem



Decisions decisions  #-o  #-o  #-o  #-o


And NO a Land-Rover product is not an option!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[Jas278]

OUCH

[wheeler]

i had same prob 6 months ago but i snaped a valve
nackered head and piston i see by the pics the head is damaged cyclone diesel aint it
any how i priced it up and to do all the work my self it would cost about 1000 quid
engine parts very expensive and how far do you go
pistons 80 od quid each might as well do all for
new valves 12 and 8 quid each
if you put pistons in do you do big ends  etc as its apart
cam belt ballance shaft belt head gasket set was quiet dear
and how muck to repair head or even second hand one
your cheapest option is 2nd hand engine

[Mudlark]

i see by the pics the head is damaged cyclone diesel aint it

That is melted piston you see on the head

However there may be a possibility of the head now having a crack in it :roll:

[bezzabsa]

buy another shogun - nick the engine - then sell the rest on, looks like the best option.....or buy a landy :D:D:D:D:D:D

[wheeler]

looking on ebay id buy another one and break yours or save it for parts
but there is a new head on there for 270 quid
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mitsubishi-Shogun-Pajero-2-5-CYLINDER-HEAD-BARE_W0QQitemZ270077224376QQihZ017QQcategoryZ10400QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
but engines are never the same once rebult  :roll:

[rollazuki]

Id find out what the cause was?

Was it a dead injector?

lack of water?

be sure before throwing new parts at the old motor and doing it again.

Dont forget you can melt/crack/overheat a piston if an injector is leaking/spraying incorrectly

[Onan The Barbarian]

Gutted for you, Julian!  :shock:  

With the potential cost to repair yours... never mind the time and grief... I think I'd be looking on eBay for another Pajero!  No good now, I know, but there was a lovely SWB Mk.I on there a couple of weeks ago that went for about £500... so they're out there, Mate!  

Hope you get sorted soon!  :roll:

[UDTrev]

Make the transplant worth the agro - fit the bigger 2.8 intercooled lump :)

[Range Rover Blues]

Id find out what the cause was?

Was it a dead injector?

lack of water?

be sure before throwing new parts at the old motor and doing it again.

Dont forget you can melt/crack/overheat a piston if an injector is leaking/spraying incorrectly

Absolutely, I'd say second hand long engine too, that head has suffered.

Or stick in a Rover V8  

Or go Rover V8 and leave the Disco bolted to it

Real sorry to hear that though mate, let us know if you find the cause.


P.S. petrol or diesel?

[Mudlark]

P.S. petrol or diesel?

Diesel

Like the sound of a V8 but not the thought of a disco

Id find out what the cause was?


Dont forget you can melt/crack/overheat a piston if an injector is leaking/spraying incorrectly

I wasn't aware of that so will get them checked if I use them again

[Devon-Rover]

Ouch that looks nasty.

I don't like the look of the scoring on the bore of the cylinder next to that one either!

IMHO another engine is the way to go unless you can rebuild that one cheaply and rectify what went wrong.

It only cost me about 50 quid to put new rings in and also one new piston, holne the bores, change the valve stem oil seals and a headgasket on the landy.

As the pajs are far better it should be far cheaper  

I know of a chap near new who has a zook with a hole in the piston. It'll cost 40 quid just for a replacement.  :shock:

Honestly good luck with getting it back on the road.

[Bulli]

double bum!

life is never straightforward. Rolla is spot on(dont get a BIGGER head)

I wouldnt chance that head as a replacement engine would no doubt cost less than having the head checked out!

hope you get it sorted.

[Evilgoat]

I'd be thinking about the engine dude. The damage on the next cylinder is on the same side as the serious damage to that piston. Maybe a cooling failure or its boiled the water away and nuked the other piston too. If I was doing ti myself I'd be having both pistons out before going further.

[Boggert]

Go for a recon or Second hand engine, as long as the rest of the car is worth it, which I suspect it it.

[paul_humphreys]

PM on its way I found someone with a engine they want rid of, well compleat car.

Paul

[davidlandy]

Mudlark

I think that you must have tempted fate with your endless posts about how reliable and brilliant Jap stuff is.

welcome to the real world!

 

[Mudlark]

Mudlark

I think that you must have tempted fate with your endless posts about how reliable and brilliant Jap stuff is.

welcome to the real world!

 

One engine in 4 years is not quite the same as endless diffs week after week :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[CJ]

Hey Mudlark, thats bad with your engine mate, dont know if your interested but...  weve just got back from exeter car auctions, we bought two old L200s but there was loads of mitsis up there, we bought the twp l200s for 450 squid, both are a ok, just need mot work...  

might be a cheep way to get a new motor if you know what your looking for...  

was also a jeep cherokee 4.something V8 for 280squid...