What tyres....

[Disco-Ron]

I know this has probably been done a million times before, but i'm kinda stuck.....

I currently have 235 85 16 insa turbo 'Sahara's' on 7" 8 spokes on my Disco 1, which are slightly less than half worn,  i have fitted rangie type arches, and cut out as much metal as i could, i now want bigger..... (as you do) so, i have bought a set of 8x16 Modulars, onto which i was going to fit 265 75 Insa Turbo 'Special Track' tyres.... but, they're hard to get, and very noisey..... so i'm thinking either Anaconda's in 265 75, or maybe the greenway Macho's.... either in 265 75, or maybe even 285 75..... has anyone run with the 285's.... i'm just a little concerned they might be a bit too big.... (is that possible though!!!)

I ought to add, that the truck has a 2" lift already, aswell as numerous other bit's that i've bolted on.... :roll:

Thanks.

[Jim-Willy]

Have Paddocks run out of insa turbo's then?  Can't see the Anaconda been any good on the road, in fact they are illegal on your vehicle unless i'm mistaken.......... :shock: .  Isn't the Macho the same pattern as what you have now?

[Disco-Ron]

HI,
I haven't tried Paddocks to be honest, but i've been advised against the Special tracks now anyway due to noise.....

The Anaconda's ARE road legal, but some of the greenway ones aren't, the ones that look like motocross tyres i think....

Yes, the Macho's 'look' like what i have now, but i'd be going wider..... MUCH wider..:)

Another quickie, does anyone know if the 8x16 Modulars are available with more offset.... the ones i have are et20, but i'd like more like et0....!

[clbarclay]

From experiance all the more extreme pattern come very noisy. No bodys running anacondas at college at the moment, but there was someone running them last year and they wern't exactly quite. IIRC they were slightly better then grizzly claws, not by much though.

If you want a quiet tyre then i wouldn't advise going any more aggressive than an 80/20 mud terrain pattern like the BFG MT or Cooper SST etc.

i'm just a little concerned they might be a bit too big.... (is that possible though!!!)

Depending on the terrain yes it can be, on wet grass for instance a narrow tyre can work better. Having said that in some circumstances (like bogs) a very wider tyre works much better and in some circumstances (like hard dry dirt) the width of the tyre can make very little difference to its performance.

[Bush Tucker Man]

The Anaconda's ARE road legal, but some of the greenway ones aren't, the ones that look like motocross tyres i think....

I presume Jim's implying in terms of their Speed-Rating not being suitable for a Discovery.
Not too sure what it is, but I'll guess at it being 75MPH (which is a 'L', unless I'm mistaken - and I probably are)

Thus not suitable for any 90/110/Defender (either) with a turbo'd engine.

If you have an accident & speed-rated tyres aren't fitted, it can 'open up a whole can of worms'

The tyre must have a higher speed rating than the maximum speed of the vehicle (not be an MOT failure??, but  an offence under Constructions & Uses(?), if you have that accident)

Sorry to pass water upon anyones bonfire  :roll:

[Xtremeteam]

HI,
I haven't tried Paddocks to be honest, but i've been advised against the Special tracks now anyway due to noise.....

The Anaconda's ARE road legal, but some of the greenway ones aren't, the ones that look like motocross tyres i think....

Yes, the Macho's 'look' like what i have now, but i'd be going wider..... MUCH wider..:)

Another quickie, does anyone know if the 8x16 Modulars are available with more offset.... the ones i have are et20, but i'd like more like et0....!

if ur turning ur nose up at special tracks ur gonna be disapointed with the anacondas,only thing they work in is deep deep mud,& then u have to spin them,have very little sideslope stability,hellish on the roads,when i have to change my tyres id either go gen simex or stick with the special tracks,so far have shown up grizzlys etc many a time

[Disco-Ron]

Thanks for the info, the anaconda's are 'K' rated, and therefore 69mph, which is why i have discounted them, at the moment, my truck cruises quite happily at 70 on the clock.....

It looks like i will end up with the Macho's, just still not sure what size....

[Range Rover Blues]

I thought the Machos were good tyres, to the extent where I'm regretting spending my dosh on BFG as they aren't as good in IMHO.  Watch the speed rating of remoulds though, even on a TDo they need to be Q rated or higher and my 235/70 machos were only just.

[Disco-Ron]

I don't want to spend silly money on tyres, i know they are the things that grip us to the road, but they also get ripped apart by offroading (if you do it with conviction....)

Looks like 285 75/16's are favourite at the moment...... Machos.....

If only i could find out if they do the 8x16 modulars with different offset, i'd be ready to order the tyres.....

[Xtremeteam]

I don't want to spend silly money on tyres, i know they are the things that grip us to the road, but they also get ripped apart by offroading (if you do it with conviction....)

Looks like 285 75/16's are favourite at the moment...... Machos.....

If only i could find out if they do the 8x16 modulars with different offset, i'd be ready to order the tyres.....

You do realise that the 265/75/16 insa special tracks measure 32 3/4 tall & 10 & a bit wide?

big tyre for what its ment to measure

[clbarclay]

10 and a bit wide is perfecty normal for a 265 tyre.

As for height, all retreads come a bit higher than there new counterparts particuarly the more aggresive tread paterns, its not just the insa turbos. 35x10.5 fedimas are come slightly taller than simex of the same size and 265/70r16 recip trails are as good as 32" tall, by which should work out at a 265/75 recip measuring 33" tall.

[NeilWilson]

Does a different speed rating apply then to mud biased tyres ?
Looking in the Discovery workshop manual Land Rover say to fit an S or T rated tyre yet I am struggling to find a decent mud tyre in that rating.  Nearly all the mud tyres in the size I want 245/74/R16 seem to be Q rated which I gather is winter/reinforced rated but has a lower speed rating than S or T eg the Cooper STT or BFG Muds.

Neil

[barnhill4x4]

I have 235/85 Machos on my disco. Fantastic off road grip. Deep mud that I would be scared to look at with Colway muds on is no problem at all, I havn't got stuck since fitting them athough they are M rated, I think thats 81mph.
  Pretty hard wearing and suprisingly quiet on the road, no silent but not in your face noisy.

[Disco-Ron]

The tyres i have are 235's, and i know how good they are.... looks like i'll be ringing d4x4 in the morning to ask about the wheels offset.......

[Disco-Ron]

Just had another odd thought...... the tyres i have are 235's...... so why does the tread only measure 205 in width....??? and on that note, what would a 265 actually measure...??

[muddyjames]

what rating are grizzly claws rated at as i use some for going to fun days out. are they legal? I dont tow on them though as one can smell them melting under load  :shock:  not good!

[clbarclay]

Just had another odd thought...... the tyres i have are 235's...... so why does the tread only measure 205 in width....??? and on that note, what would a 265 actually measure...??

235 is a measure of the tyres section width not tread width.

A useful source of tyre info
http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbibles/tyre_bible.html#sizes

[clbarclay]

what rating are grizzly claws rated at as i use some for going to fun days out. are they legal? I dont tow on them though as one can smell them melting under load  :shock:  not good!

The best source of speed rating for your grizzlys is to look on the side walls of your tyres, after the tyre size information there should be a load index number (2 or 3 digits) followed by a letter that corsponds to speed rating.

[Disco-Ron]

Just an update.....

I returned the wheels i had to D4x4 as the offset wasn't what i wanted, i rang Bronco 4x4 and they do the right wheels for me, but they're out of stock.... (typical) and tyres..... well, seeing as i will have an 8 inch rim, i've gone for 285/75 16's, which are exactly the same as a 33 12.50 16.....

in other words.... pretty damn big for a Disco...:)

I'll post pics when they're all fitted, but that won't be til mid jan.....ish!

[Tyke]

285/75 16's, which are exactly the same as a 33 12.50 16

285*0.039371 = 11.22" wide

285*0.75*0.039371*2+16 = 32.83" diameter


In theory anyway . . . . and not same as 33/12.5R16 . . . . but pretty close.

Expensive option as well cos it's an 'unfavoured' tyre size.

Still look good on the Disco though, with lift and arches, they simply just won't fit through the gates and down half the lanes I drive cos they are too wide . . . . shame really cos I like the look of them wide tyres on a well set up Disco  

[SnakeLogic]

I know what you mean about too wide tyres.  I was wanting to put really big tyres on after a lift, but most of the tracks I drive are mostly used by Samurais, so I have to be careful about not fitting.

[Disco-Ron]

Well, the tyres arrived today, my god they're wide..... if they fit it'll be a miracle.....!!!

[Tyke]

Nowt a bit of cutting and shutting won't cure.

There's a couple round our way with 33/12.5's fitted and they certainly look good.

I find the tyres always seem to look wider when they are off the vehicle as well  . . . . keep us informed of how you go on with fitting them  

I suppose I'll end up fitting a set sometime just for the hell of it . . . .  :twisted:

[skiprat]

hi,

can i ask what you will be doing with your 235's?

cheers  

kris

[Disco-Ron]

hi,

can i ask what you will be doing with your 235's?

cheers  

kris

When the wheels arrive i'll be trying to sell them, along with the 8 spokes they're on....

Trouble is, my wheels won't be arriving til bloomin february....