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Bulli:
the 2 spped one is faster but you cannot load it on the fast setting.
The first time i saw a modded 8274 in action i was stunned, they are that fast!
Yes the Gew was relaible and i would buy one quite happily for occasional use, just tkae your time and allow it to cool if you look like doing extended pulls....also pay out as much line to reduce the strain on the winch.
redneck:
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Hi Red at a guess (which probably mean I'll be put down :roll: ) I'd say that the 9500 is the same as a GEW with just another badge on so you could take your answer from Bulli above OK if you're not going anywhere in a hurry or don't want to use it for an extended length of time :lol: :lol:
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Cheers Mudlark
So would one of the bigger winches from ebay fall into this category of being slow and OK for short use ie just for occasional recovery not challenge duties :?: or are there other snags with the cheaper winches (i've read through this post but you guys seem to be discussing the suitability of winches for competition work, are solenoids etc still a problem on these winches if used for occasional recovery) A slower winch would be fine for what i want.....I think :?
smo:
Hydraulic winches are a different league all together. They come in 2 forms.
1) Slow and reliable, they will pull and pull and pull all day long, they dont overheat (when installed properly), they rarely stall (never herd of it but covering my ass here) and they will genuinely pull to and beyond their rated capacity. The limiting factor is usually the pump.
2) Bloody fast and areliable, like the type R and other modded winches, except once again they pull and pull beyond the capabilities of an 8274, they can even go faster and certainly pull stronger than an 8274 and once again they dont overheat, or eat batteries/solenoids! The downside is you need a beefy pump, usually either PTO or crank chain driven, but thats ok cos once its setup properly itll do everything a twin motor modded warn could do and more :D
Mudlark:
--- Quote from: "smo" ---Hydraulic winches are a different league all together. They come in 2 forms.
1) Slow and reliable, they will pull and pull and pull all day long, they dont overheat (when installed properly), they rarely stall (never herd of it but covering my ass here) and they will genuinely pull to and beyond their rated capacity. The limiting factor is usually the pump.
2) Bloody fast and areliable, like the type R and other modded winches, except once again they pull and pull beyond the capabilities of an 8274, they can even go faster and certainly pull stronger than an 8274 and once again they dont overheat, or eat batteries/solenoids! The downside is you need a beefy pump, usually either PTO or crank chain driven, but thats ok cos once its setup properly itll do everything a twin motor modded warn could do and more :D
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So where does 10 feet per minute (fpm) fit in is that fast or slow?
What fpm constitutes fast and what fpm constitutes slow?
smo:
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--- Quote from: "smo" ---Hydraulic winches are a different league all together. They come in 2 forms.
1) Slow and reliable, they will pull and pull and pull all day long, they dont overheat (when installed properly), they rarely stall (never herd of it but covering my ass here) and they will genuinely pull to and beyond their rated capacity. The limiting factor is usually the pump.
2) Bloody fast and areliable, like the type R and other modded winches, except once again they pull and pull beyond the capabilities of an 8274, they can even go faster and certainly pull stronger than an 8274 and once again they dont overheat, or eat batteries/solenoids! The downside is you need a beefy pump, usually either PTO or crank chain driven, but thats ok cos once its setup properly itll do everything a twin motor modded warn could do and more :D
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So where does 10 feet per minute (fpm) fit in is that fast or slow?
What fpm constitutes fast and what fpm constitutes slow?
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Thats relatively slow, but is that under full (12,000lbs) load or is it freespooling?
Milemarkers (being the most common hydraulic winches seen) are slow out of the box, they have numerous restrictions, the pumps are poor, PAS pump, or the ZF pump are ok for occasional use but serious stuff needs pto or crank driven motor, then with a decent spool valve and other mods you can really make them fly :D
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