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dew1911:
And while we leave the boys to squabble amongst themselves, let's check out a 3rd option.

If the TD engine is good (which it definatley sounds) then why bother changing it in the first place? You said yourself the TD will do so save several hundred pounds that you can spend on other, more essential mods ;).

Just my 0.02p anyway, no doubt someone will come along and warn you that you are about to die in TD Shrapnal if you don't change it NOW!

bezzabsa:
just things that were banded about -and also if i keep the TD there are lots of people that dont like em - so the spares are cheap ;)

dew1911:

--- Quote from: "bezzabsa" ---just things that were banded about -and also if i keep the TD there are lots of people that dont like em - so the spares are cheap ;)
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Indeed, the hatred of the TD has lead to two good things
1) The buggars are cheap
2) parts are cheap/easy.

Also, as I see it, if the TDs are soo bad, then why are there so many around for sale. Surley they would be all dead by now ;)

Porny:

--- Quote from: "dew1911" ---
--- Quote from: "bezzabsa" ---just things that were banded about -and also if i keep the TD there are lots of people that dont like em - so the spares are cheap ;)
--- End quote ---

Indeed, the hatred of the TD has lead to two good things
1) The buggars are cheap
2) parts are cheap/easy.

Also, as I see it, if the TDs are soo bad, then why are there so many around for sale. Surley they would be all dead by now ;)
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Dew,

I've never said the TD is actually a bad engine... if you read my earlier post


--- Quote ---There are two types of 19J engine... good or bad.

The most common is the bad variety, however there are a few good'uns, and yours doesn't sound too bad at all.
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I'm actually a fan of the TD... mine was very good until it cracked a piston (or two).

Your reply is sort of ill informed though:


--- Quote ---1) The buggars are cheap
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They are cheap... really???
Recon they are not, and good second hand ones - at times - fetch surprising money.  The cheap ones that are usually for sale are cheap for a reason... i.e they are knackered!!!

They have a habit of cracking pistons, warping their heads and suffering from bad blow by.  They also like suffering from slit diaphragms in the injector pump, and running on their own oil (usually due to the bad blow by)
When they go wrong they are no cheaper to fix than any other engine.


--- Quote ---2) parts are cheap/easy
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Really???  New parts are just as expensive as any Tdi.  Second-hand parts might be more plentiful, but they all come off knackered engines... which usually means some of the parts aren't far from joining the scrap pile.

My Td was very good, would happily do 26/27mpg even with a roof rack, would pull 80/85mph on the flat and would start without a problem.

It was serviced every 4000 miles without fail, and didn't suffer blow by (only very slightly).... but then it started pressuring the header tank as if the head gasket was on the way out.  

When I took the head off, two of the pistons were badly cracked...

So instead of rebuilding the lump - needed a rebore ideally, new pistons etc etc it was quicker/easier to fit a 200Tdi.

I admit the Td was a good engine (mine was a LR recon) until it went wrong...

But by comparison a 200Tdi is completely different...
It's more refined, more powerful, quieter, easier to start (direct injection) and better on fuel.

If you've got a good Td keep it... but if it goes wrong bang, put in a Tdi - it will completely transform your car!!!



Ian

bezzabsa:
well i put £20 in the 110 when i collected it, i have done 170 miles on that £20 (ok maybe a little more of the original too) but the 88 would have drained its tank by now.. and seeing as i have a bloody great Brownchurch heavy duty rack on the roof i dont think thats too bad.
I need too whip the glows out tho' as it does seem a little cold to start on a morning - even after having the glows on for 10 seconds (maybe they need longer?)
also going to whip the air filter out to have a nosey at - as i dont know when it was last serviced....does anyone recomend a good oil for the TD? (not the £40 stuff either :shock: )

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