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gtomo2:
Thought i would not get involved with this one but here we go.
Its just my little rant.
half of the accidents on the uk roads are coursed by car drivers not understanding the rules and the needs of a hgv when it comes to normal driving and monovering around. yes hgv drivers should have a retest then when we are all off the road and all your shops start to run out of food. who you going to call. think about it for a bit i have been drivig forjust over 20 years in all types of vehicles. and now drive a class1 44ton artic. and if you wonder what is like have a close look at this and tell me how meny cars and people you see not using common sence when it comes to coming face to face with a hgv.
http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c257/gtomo2/vids/?action=view¤t=Axeminster.flv
Oh little quiz for you what is the speed limit for a hgv on a single carrigeway road?
and just one more how much room would a 60foot artic take to turn left at a road junction?
you would be surprissed at how many car drivers have not got a clue that hgvs work to a differant law to car drivers.
So yes lets all do retests and also lets have some driver training for car drivers so they are aware of the needs and rules for hgv drivers
rant over :D
Going back to my beer :wink:
V8MoneyPit:
--- Quote from: "discograham" ---It would help if everyone was subjected to a re test every five years... but is this really nescessary ? How about everyone involved in an incident in stead ? .....
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No disrespect intended, of course, but why would you want to wait until someone has a crash before recognising they need retraining? They could have killed someone with their 'incident'. The whole point of retesting would be to avoid the incident in the first place.
Going off on a tangent....
The day we stop using the word 'accident' will be a good day (the word incident is far better). The word accident implies a certain inevitibility. A 'crash' is not inevitable. It is avoidable. We cannot ever say a crash was unavoidable. It might be extremely difficult to avoid, but never inevitable.
Terminus:
--- Quote from: "V8MoneyPit" ---Going off on a tangent....
The day we stop using the word 'accident' will be a good day (the word incident is far better). The word accident implies a certain inevitibility. A 'crash' is not inevitable. It is avoidable. We cannot ever say a crash was unavoidable. It might be extremely difficult to avoid, but never inevitable.
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The Police stopped using the word accident a long time ago - they now use crash
V8MoneyPit:
--- Quote from: "Terminus" ---The Police stopped using the word accident a long time ago - they now use crash
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Too right! So is it now an RTC rather than an RTA??? Or maybe and RTI? :D
Skibum346:
A few observations, a test does not improve skills it merely tests whether those skills exist. There is an inference that testing will be supported by training but few of the posts I've seen on here have referred to it.
In Germany (in the 80's when I was a young squaddie) in order to obtain a driving licence, potential drivers had to attend a training course at an approved centre. This included not only the usual hour long driving lessons over a period but also included lectures (AFAIK evenings) that taught how the engine works, how the brakes work, how the clutch works etc. The driving lessons included AFAIR night driving, where possible wet weather driving and motorway driving. Only then, were they eligible to sit the test.
This approach whilst it may not be a perfect answer (assuming there is one) deals with cognitive learning (Knowledge, comprehension and application), phsychomotor skills (turning the wheel, pressing the pedal etc) and affective learning (attitudes and discipline).
Whilst in this country the approach to the driving test has been improved with the introduction of the theory test, it is still feasible for a potential driver to sit the tests and (by the grace of your god/s) pass. There is none of the underlying knowledge or comprehension to influence attitudes and discipline; only the phsychomotor skills necessary to control the vehicle.
All drivers should be trained more effectively rather than tested more often, though that does have it's place in my proposal.
Skibum
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