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A crushing blow
Terminus:
--- Quote from: "att" ---To use the Nazi references etc. in no way belittles the suffering that many endured, it is merely being used as reference to what may happen if these things go unchecked.......It is, as I have stated previously an awareness of the current state of affairs, if you have failed to learn from history, no matter what the scale may be, you have failed.
Now, about the forcing of democracy on Muslims........ :wink:
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uh oh was it a muslim bike? or a christian owner? or a buddhist 17 year old? :wink: :lol:
we were discussing the crushing of a bike here and the rights or wrongs as some may feel of the matter - but I'm sure when you put fuel in your car you appologise out loud for any ill doing which was caused during its production or when you drink your coffee you feel compelled to write a letter to the third world producers who the first world market makes unviable, or loath yourself when you buy something produced from the very wood which poor countries are now not allowed to cut down (the rainforrest) even though the first world countries originally made billions on it - next you'll tell me you've placed a convertor on your posterior to reduce any methane gas emissions.
The world is full of rights and wrongs and I'm not going to set about debating them all- but then that wasn't what we were talking about in the first place.
Yes yes I know you're going to rebutt this with but the law is a draconian thing designed to infringe your rights and thereby eat away at your freedom and enslave you then rule you outright and become a facist state then .... I'm not sure where your point will end -
but this I am sure of - the law is not just there to make someones life hell - it's there because it has to be because without it your life would be hell - in fact in many cases a lot shorter -
If you're going to get all philosophical on me at what price is freedom? are you free? what is freedom? and if you truly had absolute freedom to do what you wanted, for things to be the way you wanted them every second of your day, for there to be nothing governing you or holding in check the desires and inhibit the urges of mankind - would that be freedom? Nope it's called anarchy and I doubt it would be an improvement.
It's the human condition to complain about what we have and what we don't have and right and wrong are just sides of a coin seen from different perspectives.
Now that we've moved from the point of the motorbike the 17 year old and the uncle - I'm out. Although I am quite happy and impressed we all managed 5 pages of conflicting opinion without for the most part poking each other in the eyes or pointing a finger and saying "he smells" :lol: maybe there's hope for us yet :wink: :lol: :lol:
Skibum346:
**Points finger at TERMINUS...**
You smell.....!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Range Rover Blues:
If only they would take the same 'hard line' when they catch someone exiting through a window with a laptop under their arm. It seems that 'law abiding' citizens who stray outside the law get punished far more harshly than ricidevists.
Dirty Gertie:
Well, personally, I'd LOVE to see the little s*it's who insist on riding their irritating little 2 strokes around the local streets where I work, and the park behind my workplace; crushed themselves, let alone their little 'buzz machines' - they ride them ON the road; no helmets, no licences (they are too young!!) etc; but the most worrying thing is they have NO SKILL, NO AWARENESS and they do not give a damn!! These idiots come shooting out of side streets with complete disregard for rights of way, bigger, heavier vehicles etc; they are brain-deads who soon, no doubt, will become completely dead! The trouble is, it will be some innocent motorist who is then subjected to the (personal, not judicial) guilt of killing a prat who should NEVER have been on the road in the first place!!
Less of the bleeding hearts guys, we have road traffic laws, most of us comply with them, and it costs us a lot of dosh; one rule for all; end of story!!!
att:
--- Quote from: "Terminus" ---
--- Quote from: "att" ---To use the Nazi references etc. in no way belittles the suffering that many endured, it is merely being used as reference to what may happen if these things go unchecked.......It is, as I have stated previously an awareness of the current state of affairs, if you have failed to learn from history, no matter what the scale may be, you have failed.
Now, about the forcing of democracy on Muslims........ :wink:
--- End quote ---
uh oh was it a muslim bike? or a christian owner? or a buddhist 17 year old? :wink: :lol:
we were discussing the crushing of a bike here and the rights or wrongs as some may feel of the matter - Although I am quite happy and impressed we all managed 5 pages of conflicting opinion without for the most part poking each other in the eyes or pointing a finger and saying "he smells" :lol: maybe there's hope for us yet :wink: :lol: :lol:
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I too, am most impressed with the conduct of the posters on this topic.
It is nice to be on a forum where there is no need for things to get too personal, and where people are not constantly picking up bad spelling.
I have been a member of many forums where such a debate would have descended into petty name calling and worse.
I would just like to say thankyou for the understanding and tolerence that has been shown for what I have posted, it is nice to agree to disagree without the personal and analytical stuff that occurs on many forums on the net.
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