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att:
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me -
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

rangerider:

--- Quote from: "Bob696" ---
--- Quote ---but it was once said that 12 people without the nous to get out of jury duty are no peers of mine Smile
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or perhaps they just have more sense of civic duty and a respect for justice.
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My comment was meant in good humour, to illustrate that in many respects the justice system of this fair land is all too often a joke unfortunately. I honestly cannot say when I last (if ever) saw one of my peers sat on a jury, by which I mean white, mid-30's, respectable professional.

Last goodness knows how many times I have sat in crown court, the jury have been almost exclusively the unemployed (dare i say unemployable in many cases?) all of whom generally have a distinct anti-police/establishment leaning, with a smattering of the older retired classes. I have watched serving police officers walk into the courtroom, take one look at the jury and mutter "(s)he's going to walk" (I can sense terminus sat reading and nodding now  :) )

The lack of a sense of civic duty and respect for justice, the self and others are exactly why this country is in the state it is in (ill jump off me soapbox now)

Terminus:

--- Quote from: "att" ---First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me -
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller
--- End quote ---


then they came for the aliens
but I've never been at Roswell

Then they came for the conspiracy theorists
But I've never seen a grassy knoll

Then they came for the people who blow things a little out of proportion
And they had big dogs and sharks with 'laser beams' and giants that were 900 ft tall and took away my freedom and put me in a cell where I had to write this with a crayon I made from ear wax.

Then they came for the people who thought crushing a motorbike was the next step to Hitler 2 and WW3
and sudenly I thought wait a minute lets get a sense of proportion here ... but it was too late ... :shock:

 :P  :P  What I think I'm trying to say here in my own humerous way is - there's a law, it was upheld and I'm gonna be brave here and suggest it doesn't bring about the downfall of democracy or restart the cold war - but it will make an uncle somewhere think carefully about lending a motorbike to someone not responsible enough to ride it somewhere legal and safe. I'm not hearing much in the news about an appeal - wonder why?

And yes you can always appeal thats part of our fine democracy - the freedom of information act made the Police far more accountable and transparent - if it's wrong all he has to do is prove it - but there does seem to be a lack of movement in that direction - I would suggest because he can't produce the necessary documents and he knows it.

Edit - oh and yes rangerider i did nod a bit.

Edit 2 - Now you'll have to excuse me I'm off to invade Polan........ nah just kidding  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Edit 3 - and yes before anyone says it I am a bit of a smart a**e

Edit 4 - No more edits I promise  :lol:

Bob696:
A generation that ignores history has no past and no future


--- Quote ---The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
--- End quote ---

 Thomas Jefferson

Terminus:

--- Quote ---A generation that compares the nazi invasion of Poland to the crushing of a motorbike used illegally - is a trifle over reactive

Terminus
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