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A crushing blow
Skibum346:
--- Quote from: "Bob696" ---Backing up "your own" is just human nature, please dont try to tell us that it dosnt happen. It might even be rare BUT once (to the detriment of an individual) is too many times.
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There is a diffirence between "backing up" and misuse of power. In my experience... and I have some... Many of those who claim that the police have abused their power when dealing with them have:
a) Not understood the issue at hand nor the legislation involved
b) Been biased by the prevelence of un-informed comment and opinion prevelent today
c) Unconciously wanted to "appear" innocent on re-telling the story
Members of every organisation support their fellows, look at mud club... but at the same time, that does not mean there is a blanket defence of each other in all instances. How many of you would defend 4x4 drivers who broke through fences, killed sheep and generally tore up a neautiful lane?
I'm not saying it has NEVER happened, however, I truly believe it's a lot less prevelent than "popular" opinion suggests.
Skibum
Terminus:
--- Quote from: "Bob696" ---
--- Quote ---On the basis of that surely the judge could do the same
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Indeed you could BUT there are legal safeguards such as having a barrister there acting on your behalf, a jury, legal clarks to advise, appeals procedure etc etc. Not to mention the CPS at the fist instance.
Backing up "your own" is just human nature, please dont try to tell us that it dosnt happen. It might even be rare BUT once (to the detriment of an individual) is too many times.
--- End quote ---
It probably does in every single occupation in the world (there will always be bad apples)- the difference here is as I said earlier you need evidence not just someones word to back up.
It's the age old thing if someone is in an organisation that's doors are closed to you - suspect them of everything and decide they are up to no good.
It's a choice thing if he didn't lend the bike to someone underage to be playing on it and that person didn't ride it where it shouldn't be illegally then his bike would still be safe and fine ..... If the circumstances had complicated by one of your friends being run over and killed or seriously injured I'm sure you wouldn't be making such an issue of people doing their job. If fact it would be the other way round you'd make an issue if they didn't.
This debate could rage on for years and the bottom line would still - be - as it stands right now it's the law, written by officials you elected and enforced by a group of people who stand in harms way so you don't have to.
That's my last thought on the matter :lol: mighty good discussion though. :) Enjoy.
Skibum346:
Another thought oin re-reading my post...
--- Quote ---Bob696 wrote:
Backing up "your own" is just human nature, please dont try to tell us that it dosnt happen. It might even be rare BUT once (to the detriment of an individual) is too many times.
--- End quote ---
If it's wrong for thje police to back each other up "even once" to the detriment of another... doesn't that bring us back to the core of the argument... the youth, riding an uninsurable bike in a public place when legislation has been through the mill to put in place a "fixed penalty", bike crushing. Surely it is wrong for him, even once, to ride an uninsurable bike in a public place, to the detriment of others?
Skibum
Terminus:
Very good point Skibum -
no wait I'm supposed to be not saying anything more :lol: *zips mouth - puts sock on head - looks the other way and sings a song about pixies*
I really got to stop reading this debate I can't help myself :lol: :lol:
Ah the kettle's boiled that ought to save me - nice cup of tea and some wensleydale eh grommit?
Skibum346:
**Bows low and reaches for the Wenslydale**
**Blinks at you hoping you'll recognise a doggie request for "two sugars this time.... please!**
:lol: :lol:
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