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Bob696:
--- Quote ---I'm a trusting fellow yes... that's not the same as a stupid fellow
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Thats a matter of opinion. :lol:
I would trust very few people with things that are not easly regained. I trusted a complete stranger with a tow rope a few months ago and was plesantly surprised when he bought it back. I would never trust anybody with my good name or something I hold dear. Even for a short time. I have been shafted too many times by 'friends' to trust strangers. To trust a policeman to be perfect and to trust his superiors to make sure he is perfect is plain stupid.
Of course if you believe that the good of the many outways the good of the few (just as the communists and the nazis did) then this law is an ideal solution and trust is not an issue. The chances of you being one of the few is remote after all.
Skibum346:
--- Quote from: "Bob696" ---Of course if you believe that the good of the many outways the good of the few (just as the communists and the nazis did) then this law is an ideal solution and trust is not an issue. The chances of you being one of the few is remote after all.
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:?
Not sure what that means.
I think it's time to agree to differ, I'm not going to persuade you and your certainly not going to persuade me.
Terminus:
--- Quote from: "Bob696" --- I would trust very few people with things that are not easly regained. I trusted a complete stranger with a tow rope a few months ago and was plesantly surprised when he bought it back. I would never trust anybody with my good name or something I hold dear. Even for a short time. I have been shafted too many times by 'friends' to trust strangers. To trust a policeman to be perfect and to trust his superiors to make sure he is perfect is plain stupid.
Of course if you believe that the good of the many outways the good of the few (just as the communists and the nazis did) then this law is an ideal solution and trust is not an issue. The chances of you being one of the few is remote after all.
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OK ok you can hide in your house and live in a cushioned idyllic existance behind lock and key :P :wink: :lol:
Where do you stop? trust the jury implicitly in a high court case? hmmmm wait how many times have I heard "he's guilty, he looks guilty" or "he must have done it he comes from a dodgy background" these are but a few comments I have heard from 'Your peers' the very same peers who can and do get elected for jury duty - so jury's are not perfect .. then there's judges and sherrifs are they perfect - no by the very basis of your arguement they too are human and make mistakes.
So what exactly is your point? rip it apart and the very basis for your arguement against laws such as discussed in the start of this thread is that Police are not perfect so cannot be trusted to hand out orders to crush vehicles despite the safeguards in place and the appeal system.
ok so the very same applies to the courts, juries judges and sherrifs - all are capable of error all have safegaurds but none are perfect.
So if I lived my life by your premise of trust no-one I'd be very lonely, isolated, so paranoid I'd start thinking the aliens may have escaped Roswell and be coming after mankind and all in all I think 'd be missing out on the main part of life - living it.
Nothing is perfect and nothing is absolute bob so your point of arguement is you want perfect before you will trust anything - good luck :shock: :wink:
Edit - enough with the Nazi's already, its not comparable to the topic - it's melodrama. Do you when you cut your finger start saying oh my god I'm going to die it'll get infected and I'll get blood poisoning and thats my life over?
att:
This kind of thing does not do the Police - Public relations any favours.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5286898.stm
Are judges really that far removed from general society?
Terminus:
--- Quote from: "att" ---This kind of thing does not do the Police - Public relations any favours.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5286898.stm
Are judges really that far removed from general society?
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That's right they are all the same ....... just like everyone who drives a 4x4 is the same and the stop urban4x4 group has a point.
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