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just typical of the yanks!!!

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rangerider:
At the risk of continuing to upset people, possibly both sides of the fence at once........


--- Quote from: "discograham" ---Now I'm going to really upset everyone. Regardless of how shocking and terrible 9/11 was lets get real about it. The number of people killed is irrelevent.. the reason this shocked was because the whole scene was played out on the world stage for us all to see...
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Every death is relevant, be it 2, 200, or 2000. However yes I agree that the fact this all happened on live tv is a reason that shocked. Another reason this was so shocking is because as stated previously this was "in the back yard"



--- Quote from: "discograham" ---The people who carried this vile act out are fanatics, as are most members of their foul religion, and all followers of islam are a danger to us all...
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This could be a first, I could be accused of political correctness!:)

Wrong Islam and its followers/adherents have a track record no better or worse than any other relgion or sect.  At the risk of crossing threads the reason we are banned from so many lanes is because we have been taken as a group to be just like the minority that give us a bad name




--- Quote from: "discograham" ---that said, this act brought the Americans into the real world, sad though it is as they were like children before, but now, through this baptism of fire they have reached adulthood... perhaps they will behave differently now they have been violated...
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Nope, they are being even more childlike, lashing out at any target regardless of validity. Wrecking what they claim makes them great with one hand to become what they claim to be against, whilst the other hand offers out Big Macs & Coca cola.


--- Quote from: "discograham" ---But a film this soon... I could'nt care less...! the Americans cant tell a story without bending the truth to suit them or rewriting history in their favour anyway, so why be bothered about another piece of cinema.. thats all it is...  I havent even started on this subject yet but already have said way too much for some...
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I hate to say it, but it is not just the Americans that bend a story, history is always written to fit the victors perceptions. If Germany had won in '45, the concentration camps would have been a good thing that did the world a favour. Right now history fits America's view of being in the right trying to bring sweetness, light & democracy to the world, should this become an Islamic world in 20 years time America will be protrayed as being the unruly child brought into line.



--- Quote from: "discograham" ---Discuss...... :shock:  :lol:
Now I'le wait for the flak........
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No flack, some points I agree on, some I dont, take your pick everybody and feel free to argue (flames off list please, valid points for discussion only on list)

{sits back, emptys the magazine, reloads & prepares for another salvo}  :)

rangerider:

--- Quote from: "Steel" ---I may add more onto this later.  I'm still trying to take in that there's already a movie that has been made on this event.  :?
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2nd Movie account on the events of that day, in addition to hundreds, maybe thousands of hours of assorted documentaries and "docu-dramas" on the subject. (here at work I have access to some 8000hrs of video and presentations on the events of that day.)

The flight 94 movie was ignored. Maybe because there were not as many casualties, maybe because having never been broadcast live it never really happened in the eyes of many.

On the Noraid subject. They have always been a joke, the IRA have recieved the vast majority of their funding from other criminal activities for ages. However it is understood that the trickle of Noraid support did almost dry up completely post 2001. Please remember that IRA bombs never made broadcast news in the US as a general rule, so such people could pretend to themselves that their money was doing no harm.

discograham:
Now it's getting interesting and I've got to go out...  but I'le have more to say   :shock:  in an hour or two...

Range Rover Blues:
Sorry, as soon as I saw it had Nick Cage in it I lost interest.

Tacky though, don't you think.  Has holiwud really run out of 70s sit coms and drama series remakes that it needs to do this right now?  They havn't even got as far as 'bless this house' or 'are you being served', probably wouldn't get the cat jokes anyway.

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