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just typical of the yanks!!!
BrumLee:
I remember the day it happened and as I often go to sleep in the morning with the TV on :shock: I woke to seeing what I thought was a brilliant movie, only to find that it was reality some time later as it was on for ages :oops: :cry:
If the film portrays the courage of the people that lost their lives then it may be a good thing as it goes to show we never know what's going to happen in the next minute after this one. If it's a hyped up film to make folk rich then they should be sent to Guantanamo Bay with the rest of the terrorist suspects for crimes against the world. Profits should go back to the victims of this tragedy.
On a lighter note did anyone notice in the trailer another of Land Rover's finest? Another film to add to the list of "Movie's Starring the Best"
rangerider:
There is no need for a movie to portray firemen & cops as heros. Drive round almost any neighbourhood, have a look at the firehouse, the police station, see that even at great distances from New York, Washington DC & Pennsylvania people still donate food, give flowers and cards etc.
I suspect the motive behind this movie has little to do with cash, but more to convince/remind those who are beginning to doubt military involvement overseas just why it was decided to send in the troops.
I cynical view I admit, but one I give credence to over purely financial & entertainment reasons. Without a movie or TV show being politically acceptable it is almost impossible to gain the permits & access to locations, the big names to star, and of course the cash to actually produce the movie in the first place.
The recent world cup has brought into sharp relief one of the biggest differences between here & the US. For a few weeks, once every couple of years people fly flags from their cars & houses, until the football competition is over. Many of the people who do this are seen as being from an underclass & almost yobbish element of society. Across the atlantic, cars & houses wear flags all year round, not to support a small minority in an insignificant competition, but to show support for the ideals they stand for all the time.
{off soapbox} (for the timebeing:))
discograham:
Now I'm going to really upset everyone. Regardless of how shocking and terrible 9/11 was lets get real about it. The number of people killed is irrelevent.. the reason this shocked was because the whole scene was played out on the world stage for us all to see... we heard the recorded phone messages... released on tv and in the media partly to stir up more anger and hate... and regardless of whatever anyone else thinks this kind of thing was always going to happen. The people who carried this vile act out are fanatics, as are most members of their foul religion, and all followers of islam are a danger to us all... that said, this act brought the Americans into the real world, sad though it is as they were like children before, but now, through this baptism of fire they have reached adulthood... perhaps they will behave differently now they have been violated...
But a film this soon... I could'nt care less...! the Americans cant tell a story without bending the truth to suit them or rewriting history in their favour anyway, so why be bothered about another piece of cinema.. thats all it is... I havent even started on this subject yet but already have said way too much for some...
Discuss...... :shock: :lol:
Now I'le wait for the flak........
Edge:
Don't think you'll get much flak.......well not about the yank government bending the truth to suit. We're all just disposable pawns in the governments world........."do you honestly believe mr bush or blair have any concerns when jo public or members of the forces etc get blown up"
Didn't think so.
I'll get me coat.....
Rich_P:
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--- Quote from: "beast5680" ---i have to say i am in agreement with rangerider, i dont think the film is any more in bad taste than the one on at the minute telling the IRA story from the view of those in the IRA
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It's interesting to bear in mind most of the IRA funding 1970-1995 came from the US via NORAID (from New York in particular...). When New York gets a taste of terrorism we get a film.
Let us not forget the UK had to put up with similar horror week in-week out for over thirty years (and it's still not over yet)
Over 30 years, the IRA and other terror groups have murdered 302 police officers, 651 soldiers and reservists, around 2,000 civilians....
The yearly death toll:
2006 1 (2)
2005 5 (7)
2004 2 (3)
2003 10 (3)
2002 11 (5)
2001 16
2000 19
1999 8
1998 55
1997 21
1996 18
1995 9
1994 64
1993 88
1992 89
1991 96
1990 81
1989 75
1988 104
1987 98
1986 61
1985 57
1984 69
1983 85
1982 110
1981 113
1980 80
1979 121
1978 81
1977 111
1976 295
1975 260
1974 294
1973 253
1972 479
1971 171
1970 26
1969 16
In addition to those killed there were around 47,000 injured
Shooting incidents 37,000
Armed robberies 22,500
Persons imprisoned for paramilitary offences 19,600
Bombings and attempted bombings 16,200
Arson incidents 2,200
.....and no 'gooey' movies.
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That was the kind of thing I was thinking about.
I've never seen a movie to do with an event I have actually witnessed myself, but I remember hearing about the towers had been struck while on the way home from school once. When I got home, and put the TV on the two towers were smoking and then all of a sudden (live TV this was too!) one of the towers just began to rush down and collapsed. :shock:
This was the first event that I had actually witnessed myself and 'understood it' (by being able to take in, where as in '96 with the IRA bombing of Manchester I was a bit too young to understand what the bombing was even).
Personally I'm not in favour of a movie being made so recently after such an event. Even then, I'm not so comfortable about any movies about real events in history unless they're very accurate. I cannot stand the truth or facts being twisted or changed to suit the money making business, especially when it this history involves many people being injured or even losing their lives.
I may add more onto this later. I'm still trying to take in that there's already a movie that has been made on this event. :?
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