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gtomo2:
Just to add my penys worth to the debate i have used both the sa80 and the mi6 both in peace time and in anger and the sa80 worked first time everytime and the m16 just kept jamming. I have never had any problems with the sa80 but i am always one to make sure it is clean and well oiled. But at the end of the day remember it is only designed to wound not kill. unlike the good old slr now that gun would upset your day if you were on the wrong end if it (and your shoulder if you were at the blunt end of it)

hobbit:

--- Quote from: "gtomo2" ---Just to add my penys worth to the debate i have used both the sa80 and the mi6 both in peace time and in anger and the sa80 worked first time everytime and the m16 just kept jamming. I have never had any problems with the sa80 but i am always one to make sure it is clean and well oiled. But at the end of the day remember it is only designed to wound not kill. unlike the good old slr now that gun would upset your day if you were on the wrong end if it (and your shoulder if you were at the blunt end of it)
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Agree with the slr there, that is one weapon that would give someone a bad day, and also a couple of others behind them.

But if you want a bad shoulder and long range cant beat the Lee-enfield bolt action, 1200yds range on the sights, and capable in the right hands to hit the  target at that range.

But as far as the vehicles are concerned, they could do a lot worse by ressurecting some of the old humber pigs they used in Ireland (or even Saracens  :lol: ), mind you it would be like an oven out there. But they do need some kind of protection they must be able to retro-fit some kind of composit plastic armour, the landys used in Ireland had a covering called makralon or something similar as I remember, they weren't able to stop an rpg but would be resistant more than aluminium and canvas against shrapnel and some small arms fire

gtomo2:
[quote="hobbitBut as far as the vehicles are concerned, they could do a lot worse by ressurecting some of the old humber pigs they used in Ireland (or even Saracens  :lol: ), mind you it would be like an oven out there. But they do need some kind of protection they must be able to retro-fit some kind of composit plastic armour, the landys used in Ireland had a covering called makralon or something similar as I remember, they weren't able to stop an rpg but would be resistant more than aluminium and canvas against shrapnel and some small arms fire[/quote]

Now thats a scary thought the humbers were not the best at stopping either :shock: .  Now they could bring fox back i used to driver / gun one and they were so qiute you could sneck up on anybody plus got a bit of armour on them and dam fast on the road plus a nice gpmg co axial mounted and one on the commanders capolour as well, oh and not forgting a nice semi auto 30mm cannon to upset the locals with :lol:

hobbit:
Those foxes did die an early death really, but yes they need something, even a 432 would be better than ally

btw a pig does not have to stop, and they make short work of the old black taxis when they were used as road blocks too :wink:

Coudl do with the yanks doing some lend lease again

At least its not blue on blue now

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