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Idiots!!!!!!!
bgwd:
Hi,
I feel I need to add my side to the orignal post that has obviously had an element of artistic licence added to it.
Living locally to salisbury plain and enjoying driving in the countryside getting to see sights that would normally never see even on foot I feel that it is important to keep our green lanes open and feel very passionate about it so here is my side.
I feel you probably don't want an account of the actions leading up to our meeting with Roger, however being a passenger in one of the Discovery's, it was a very sedate drive across the plain actually, following Mark in front with the GPS mapping system, as if anyone reading has driven the plain its still very easy to get lost even following A clearly marked OS map.
We met up with Roger in a copse of trees, not Beeches barn as stated, now from my account we carried on driving the byways following the GPS.
Now for the bit of the original post where we were alleged to be jumping the vehicles over a burial mound !!!! we are all aware of the importance of burial mounds and not destroying them, across the plain these are clearly marked with white posts and signs for no digging (obviously), as Mark has stated we had found an incline that had been used by tanks driving up over a bank and used that but still not "jumping" as stated, surely thats for £500 range rovers that you take to specific off roading places that allow it! not expensive vehicles that are our everyday transport.
After our meeting with Roger with drove off in in the same direction and stopped about 1/2 mile away and put the kettle to be honest, in no way skattering as stated and meeting up later, we had been sat here for almost 15 minutes before the two police 110's arrived, had we been worried that we were doing anything wrong do you really think we would of stayed around! We did show the police where we had been via the GPS tracking, they were happy with the details supplied and no fixed penalties given or numbers taken. As we explained to them if we had been off the byway then we would of been more than happy to accept it.
There were indeed a few of us out on the day but each vehicle had either family or friends out for a day together.
As usual there are two sides to every story and will always be a contentious issue, however I do feel an injustice has been done to the way we as a group approach off-roading/greenlaning has been portrayed. For the benefit of all we are not selfish and want the lanes closed down, I feel very strongly that our freedom to travel on legitimate byways be kept alive and I would in no way be associated with a group of "hooligans"
In closing you can believe who you want, that is your right of a citizen of this country that you get your own free will, I just needed to say my piece and hopefully re-address the balance of negative to positive, we should all fight to keep our lanes open, there is such a strangle hold to close them down that we should all pull together as one, not bitch about each other, this isn't big brother now is it, we are sensible adults and hopefully all want the same thing.
Thank you for your time if you have read this to the bottom. :)
NiceBlueWellies:
It is very easy for people in the wrong to protest they are in the right, especially when they have just been shamed in public! Easy too to say what has been put/said previous, is a wrong account of the situation, when they have had a chance to read/hear it previous to them putting their side.
Fair enough, one of you is quite probably somewhat right - bits are always added onto a story to make it "a bit more interesting".
Why would though, a member of Mud-Club, who had been speading the word of this good club, then post a load of old tripe??? A certain amount of truth must come from the original story, as you were bound to come on here, read it and then join, even if just to have your two penneth.
Whichever is to be believed, lessons must be learnt. Smaller groups, slower speeds and a civilised manner towards each other, even when you are told you are in the wrong (i.e. the jeering from partners, which quite frankly I do believe). It is a bigger person who admits to doing wrong.
the loon:
I'm not going to comment any further but its nice to have seen both sides have had a chance to express there side of the story from the events.
Also its good to see this hasnt been done as an unrestrained attack on anyone who has posted (thats the way I'm reading it) or on MC itself however now that both parties have made there points would it not be worth locking this thread and saying no more about it?
The only people who can now know EXACTLY what happened on the day are bgwd , mark and roger and the 3rd parties mentioned i.e the police.
Those of us that wenrt there have made our views felt but again we can not directly say who is telling the truth. We can form our own opinions based on whats been said etc.
just my stance on this as I've beenm in the similar situation of alligations being made by people in the offroading community agaisnt myself and other parties.
Fortunatly in our case these where found to be totaly unsubstanciated and stemed from a personal grudge (no names to be mentioned)
Manicminer:
After reading all the posts it looks to me as there must have been another group out at the same time.
Maybe both sides are correct in what they are saying :wink:
Plum:
Ide like to retract my post of mon 29th may 11:30. . . . (where i was seen to "TAKE SIDES". . . . somthing of which i do not normally partake in. . .
Therefore the first thing id like to do is appologise to both parties involved, as only themselves know what really did happen on that day. . . . . an its nothing at all to do with me, nuff said. . . .
Secondly I hope that one day i'll be able to meet up with you Roger poss over a good stout or wee dram an pick your brains on the "plain". . .
Also to both Mark ( and welcome to the club my good man ), and bgwd hopefully one day we'll also be able to meet "an have some damn good fun". . . . yeah. . . . cos thats wot its all about is it not ? ? ?
Cheers an all the best to all
Plum
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