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Sider:
Woody, my rant had nothing to do with your post. My rant was against some shows of bigotry I read above. I am growing a bit tired of having to deal with bigots pretty much every day, specially the kind of leeches that are discussed in other parts of this thread.

As a matter of fact, I mostly agree with you. The problem we have is that some people won't do the job, no matter how well you pay them. It's easier to sit in the pub all day and get paid for it, than  doing a day's job to earn twice the money, ergo they sit in the pub spending their giros.

It might be an unwanted side effect of the welfare state, but I guess we have to live with it. And if to fill those posts we (and in we I am referring to the whole of western Europe) need to rely on imported workers, we have little to no option.

As for the asylum seekers, I am all for letting them work, once their status as refugees is consolidated, and even before. Unfortunately, that could also lead to abuse of the asylum system by economic migrants, which would take us back to square one.

waveydavey:
I have no problem with non brits: I am an Englishman living in Wales after all.
I work on a ship with probably 20+ nationalaties with no problems.

My wife is South African (We met outside the UK - well outside any country actually) totally legit in the country and we have paid over a grand for that, it does get a little upsetting when you break the law and the goverment fund your life.

Now if you really want to get annoyed phone the Home Office Immigration helpline: Not that BRITISH HOME OFFICE, 9 times out of 10 you get somebody who struggles with English, now that does get me upset !

rollazuki:
Problem is guys, if you speak freely about it, you get branded racist.


Theres a lot of bad feeling in this country being stifled by the need to be politically correct, especially in the workplace.


We need gates on the ports

fram:
I too am getting pretty upset about the fact that if you show even a little bit of national pride people will brand you a racist. Take for example the prison officers who donated to charity by buying little badges with the st georges flag on them, and then were told not to wear them as they could be causing offence!! Or the taxi drivers that displayed the st georges cross on their cars during the last world cup and were then cautioned that they were seen as threatening.

I also have a problem with the large amount of the foreign workers that come over here and work for minimum wage, then qualify for free medical treatment, maybe tax credits, possibly housing, all taken out of a pot of tax payers money that they have put little or nothing into!!

I do NOT blame the foreign workers, or the immigrants. I blame the government, and the people who put them there...namely british nationals with the right to vote!!

And as a british national, I have the right to complain about it in a civilised public discussion such as this.

Sider: Yes I agree with you people should not make sweeping generalised comments about people, without legal moral or any kind of evidence to back their statments up....such as "Is it any wonder that my boss employs foreign nationals, when all the brits he seems to employ do not want to work and are inherently lazy!!"

Fram

Sider:
Fram, in all honesty, if you will only read extracts from my posts, instead of reading them in whole, you can keep your opinions about them to yourself. If you are not able to do that, at least refrain from misquoting me, if you don't mind. I do tend to get a bit upset when people twist what I say to suit their own agenda.

I was not generalizing, but simply stating what I have experienced first hand. Whereas skilled people are relatively easy for us to find, unskilled people, or labourers, or second men, who we would train to get into the "skilled personnel" slot are quite frankly next to impossible to find, and the same applies to drivers, very few are willing to do the same job and the same kind of loads I do, although they would be getting the equivalent of 10 hours agency work a day, working an average of 8 hours. They prefer the lower paid agency work, before the better paid, though phisically demanding work we offer.
And it's not only our company, most piling companies we work with find the same problem. Same goes for building firms.

I have absolutely no problems with people being proud of their britishness, and I despise PC, but if you are not able to distinguish between unPC and downright bigotry, I feel pretty sorry for you.

In my time in Britain I have been unemployed for the staggering amount of 4 months, none of that time through my choice, in some cases not being chosen for a position not through lack of preparation, nor losing to a better suited candidate, but simply because they preferred to hire a British national, even though their skills/training/attitude was inferior to what I could offer (and before you ask, it is not paranoia, it was pointed out to me by infuriated employment agencies managers, who had been told off for daring to send a non briton to the interviews). Yet in all those 4 months, I refused to collect the unemployment allowance I was entitled to. Go figure.

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