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--- Quote from: "Devon-Rover" ---So why can't the greenies go and campaign outside a concrete plant as they produce huge amounts of Co2 and what eles produces lots of harmfull emmisions? :
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Cows farting.
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Polititicians ?

The basic premise you can uyse to shut up pretty much any greenpeace activist is their own argument, i.e. "carbon footprint".

Every single person on the planet produces carbon dioxide in the lifestyle choices that they make, be this the vehicle they drive, the food they eat, the way they heat their house or even the amount of curry they buy.

You will get told that if you drive a V8, or even any form of 4x4 then you are killing the planet, and, within a very limited sense they are telling the truth.  But there are considerations that are not being taken into account.   Every vehicle produces emmissions, and even the greenest of the green electric cars require the power from somewhere.  Since we don't have a sustainable renewable energy production system in this country producing the energy required to drive an electric vehicle will produce CO2, I wish it didn't, but it does.

Whilst this is a valid point, it perhaps isn't the most gross act of hypocracy and blind-eye-turning that it may appear, or at least there are others.  Assuming that the activist isn't a nut-only vegan, take Lamb, or Bacon.   Since the drive for ever cheaper food has seen an increase in the amount of importing, and the corresponding death toll for british farming you have to question the sanity of buying none local produce.   For instance, you could buy your Lamb from new zealand, your Bacon from Denmark, your Bananas from South Africa, Tomatoes from spain.  Granted these are shipped in bulk, but add each journey together and the simple fact remains that getting the produce to the supermarket produces more CO2 than driving there to pick it up.

"You have three range rovers, you could have smaller more efficient cars",  indeed, and I could, as has been suggested replace them every three years to ensure I have the most fuel effecient versions.  The trouble is, destroying the old ones requires energy, producing the new ones requires energy,  and that level of pollution caused by the manufacture and recycling of the old one is questionably smaller than using the one I already own, and is already there.   Piglet in this example is what?  10 years old,  Kanga around 6, even Owl is past it's shelf life officially...  So, yes, he *could* buy smaller more efficient cars, but if he followed the published advice rather than buying three cars and using xxx amount of fuel, he'd have had to buy 7 small cars and the assiciated amount of fuel,  is that *really* more efficient ?

Besides, how much petrol does the mega thirsty V8 in piglet actually use whilst it's sat stationary on the drive ?

Short answer,  buy locally produced food, install double glazing and insulation, turn things off, use energy efficient lamps, get off your backside and walk more often and you'll make a far bigger impact on CO2 production than buy buying a milk float.

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