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« on: January 16, 2006, 23:22:59 »
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: 200 or 300??    

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Just been and picked up a 3 door disco tonight my little bro is going to get into landies at last   any way motor is sound runs great and we are going to turn it into a off road beast but originally we thought it was a 200tdi but now we are not sure and think it could be a 300! How can you tell?? i know on the defender you can tell by the side the air intake is on but that is not the case on the disco! so how can we tell??
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The 300 has bigger frot headlamps and better interior. Usually a 300tdi has a plastic cover on the engine. I think 200tdi is up to L reg and 300 is late L onwards to T reg.
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2006, 23:25:06 »
just about saved that thread!! any way forgot to say it is an L reg first registered in April 1994 it has a black rubber cover over the rocker cover and turbo the same as on my 300tdi defender so im not quite sure :?
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2006, 23:26:42 »
Yellow dip stick top on a 300tdi
Green dip stick top on a 200tdi
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2006, 23:27:14 »
Did post on 1st, check in the engine the 300 has a yellow dipstick the 200 is green. The air filters are different, barrel shaped on the 200 and square on the 300.

Hope that helps
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2006, 23:30:18 »
excellent we got ourselves a 300tdi and we bought it thinking it was a 200 all for £1400 and it is in great condition. thnaks guys that makes me happy :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2006, 23:31:47 »
Bit of a bargain then nice one :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2006, 09:28:30 »
Ohh, so we got me a 300tdi eh?  :lol: nice!
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2006, 10:58:17 »
If that's it in your avatar, it's definately a 300  :wink:
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2006, 10:59:31 »
Next thing to do is use the search button at the top to find some threads telling you how to disconnect the EGR unit  :D
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2006, 17:26:48 »
Quote from: "TimM"
Next thing to do is use the search button at the top to find some threads telling you how to disconnect the EGR unit  :D
Hey Tim is it better then if u disconnect the EGR valve and wot benefits would i get from doing that  8)  :D also thats a good steal that disco at the price u guys paid well done and happy motoring  :D
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2006, 17:39:15 »
Hello  :D

How can you tell its a 300tdi from my avatar?

And what would I gain by disconnecting the EGR valve?

I'm new to all this...


Thanks,

Brother Ted.  :D
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2006, 17:51:46 »
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How can you tell its a 300tdi from my avatar?


From the front end styling, they canged the grille and headlights  :wink:


Quote from: "Brother Ted"

And what would I gain by disconnecting the EGR valve?

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wot benefits would i get


The Exhaust Gas Recirculation system at low revs vents the exhaust gases back into the inled chamber to reduce emissions, so your engine is re-burning hot air....... NOT GOOD!

People claim better fuel economy, and more power....... it's an easy job, give it a go  :wink:
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2006, 18:13:21 »
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How can you tell its a 300tdi from my avatar?


From the front end styling, they canged the grille and headlights  :wink:


Quote from: "Brother Ted"

And what would I gain by disconnecting the EGR valve?

Quote from: "PUX"
wot benefits would i get


The Exhaust Gas Recirculation system at low revs vents the exhaust gases back into the inled chamber to reduce emissions, so your engine is re-burning hot air....... NOT GOOD!

People claim better fuel economy, and more power....... it's an easy job, give it a go  :wink:
 Cheers Tim u have just sold that idea to me i can get this on eblag quite cheap  :?:  and cheers Tim for the info  :wink:
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2006, 18:35:39 »
i did mine  sunday moring in  about 15 minutes :)
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2006, 18:38:34 »
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i did mine  sunday moring in  about 15 minutes :)
have u noticed the diffrence ??? :wink:
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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2006, 18:38:40 »
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Quote from: "TimM"
Quote from: "Brother Ted"
How can you tell its a 300tdi from my avatar?


From the front end styling, they canged the grille and headlights  :wink:


Quote from: "Brother Ted"

And what would I gain by disconnecting the EGR valve?

Quote from: "PUX"
wot benefits would i get


The Exhaust Gas Recirculation system at low revs vents the exhaust gases back into the inled chamber to reduce emissions, so your engine is re-burning hot air....... NOT GOOD!

People claim better fuel economy, and more power....... it's an easy job, give it a go  :wink:
 Cheers Tim u have just sold that idea to me i can get this on eblag quite cheap  :?:  and cheers Tim for the info  :wink:

how the EGR works is to feed exhaust gasses back in to actually cool the combustion chamber/temperature & give lower exhaust emissions due to the lower temp the gasses change form slightly differently,can go on but need to look at ma college work to be more specific
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2006, 21:37:57 »
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how the EGR works is to feed exhaust gasses back in to actually cool the combustion chamber/temperature


 :shock:  Are you sure? I would have thought that the exhaust fumes were a lot higher temperature than the air in the inlet (post intercooler).

Quite happy to be proved wrong though  :wink:

Whatever it does though, you will find better low end performance once disabled/removed  :D
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2006, 21:46:01 »
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how the EGR works is to feed exhaust gasses back in to actually cool the combustion chamber/temperature


 :shock:  Are you sure? I would have thought that the exhaust fumes were a lot higher temperature than the air in the inlet (post intercooler).

Quite happy to be proved wrong though  :wink:

Whatever it does though, you will find better low end performance once disabled/removed  :D

thats what i thought but have the course work saying otherwise somewhere
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2006, 22:51:01 »
Hey all,

Apparently our 300tdi doesn't have an EGR Valve as its a 1994 model (quite early 300tdi) is this the case? or should we just look harder for it?  :)

Thanks,

Brother Ted.
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2006, 02:59:44 »
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Hey all,

Apparently our 300tdi doesn't have an EGR Valve as its a 1994 model (quite early 300tdi) is this the case? or should we just look harder for it?  :)

Thanks,

Brother Ted.
thought all 300tdi had them :?:  :?  :?
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2006, 03:35:48 »
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Quote from: "kwik.kwak"
i did mine  sunday moring in  about 15 minutes :)
have u noticed the diffrence ??? :wink:




yes m8, my hands were dirty :P








yes it seems to rev a little free,er :)
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2006, 09:08:04 »
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Apparently our 300tdi doesn't have an EGR Valve as its a 1994 model (quite early 300tdi) is this the case? or should we just look harder for it?  :)


Mine has one (1995), have a look on this thread as there is a picture of one  :wink:
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2006, 09:57:41 »
Hmm, well mine doesn't look like the one in that picture. There is a kind of diamond-shaped plate in place of the valve there. hmm. I'll take a photo when I get home if that helps.

Brother Ted.
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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2006, 10:09:09 »
possiable its alreeady been done?? :?
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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2006, 10:15:05 »
Sounds like it, if you remove the EGR completely it would leave a hole, over which you fit a blanking plate..... which is roughly diamond shaped  :?
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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2006, 22:08:09 »
ah right, must have been done then
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2006, 22:26:09 »
incase anyone is interested tho progress on project Disco can be viewed by going to brother teds profile and cliking on the hyperlink where there is a progress report to keep you all updated
regard James
(Brother teds inspiation oh and brother) :wink:
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2006, 17:34:57 »
So whats the plan for the disco?
Big lift/tyre's and so on?
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2006, 23:07:26 »
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So whats the plan for the disco?
Big lift/tyre's and so on?
 :D

Hi Jake the plan is to lift it with this which he won tonight    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4604349102&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

I took front and rear bumpers off today ready for some winch bumpers, then big wheels and a snorkel and all the usual protection underneath, (spent ages looking at pics of how you did Challenger for some ideas  :wink: )
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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2006, 08:30:20 »
I could be wrong (please feel free to flame me if i am ) but that kit is off a rangie V8 and your disco is a tdi, i thought the spring rates were different for a classic and a disco? also the front springs need to be heavier for a tdi than a v8 as the v8 is a lighter engine? :?
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