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Thrasher:
Nope..not arrogant. I'm a tightwad. I would NEVER have bought traction aids for £500 an axle.
But this is like the oil/grease in swivels debate. The only way you can prove anything is physically. Get a standard vehicle, with standard suspension, and an obstacle. Drive both over. See what happens.
Hightower:
I had a discussion about extreme suspension setups with the nice man who had this very argument with a salesman on the Scorpion stand at Billing.
As he tried to explain to this salesman, although it looks very nice and it will keep your wheels on the ground for longer, the traction the dropped wheel has is very minimal. The reason for this is simple. As soon as the spring dislocates there is nothing but the weight of the axle keeping the wheel on the ground. With the spring in place at least you have the weight of the vehicle pushing the axle down. To prove his point he lifted up the dislocated wheel off of the floor with one hand and asked how much traction that was supposed to provide.
He was asked to leave the stand shortly afterwards.
PS - Neil, where did you get your LSD's from then? PM required please :wink:
wizard:
My bottom mounted cone !!!
Maddonnas top mounted cones !!!
wizard
Mace:
--- Quote from: "Thrasher" ---Disclocating a wheel does NOT aid traction to a great extent, especially if you have shorter springs?!
--- End quote ---
Ahah Thrasher, caught you out, you're starting to believe me, now you say "to a great extent"....
implication being that it might actually work :wink:
Mace:
--- Quote from: "Hightower" ---To prove his point he lifted up the dislocated wheel off of the floor with one hand and asked how much traction that was supposed to provide
--- End quote ---
A. First of all impressive. My wheels and tyre weigh a ton and I'm a weedy 10 stone so I'd probably need two hands to lift a wheel/mud tyre/axle
B. If one wheel was dislocated it would imply that the other wheel / spring was compressed. Your standard diff would not turn this grounded wheel but would spin the dislocated wheel as it was the wheel with least resistance.
So spinning this wheel (even tho it's only got it's own weight pushing it down) will achieve nothing, correct ?
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